Unofficial Feedback thread for the Vampire Lord Ult+ Revamped Vampire Skill Line Reveal!

Thevampirenight

Thanks to @Alcast and other community creators. We are going to see 9 hours what the Vampire Overhaul will have in store for us. So I'm making this thread for feedback. I wanted to get an early start for this thread along with the other thread that has the other stuff thats going to be showcased like the Antiquities system, Greymoor Skyrim zones and the New Trail. Those are in one thread so I didn't have to make four seperate threads for each of the Alcast Show Cases videos.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/518707/unofficial-feedback-thread-for-the-new-antiquities-system-12-man-trial-and-skyrim-zone-showcases/p1?new=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDXATjYJXhg

https://alcasthq.com/eso-new-vampire-lord-skillline-showcase/
Someone posted a much more detailed video on how the Vampire Skill Line Works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haY0uuuRkCU&feature=emb_title

For those that don't know it yet or have not been paying much attention. The Vampire Skill Line is getting completely revamped. A lot like the werewolf one done sometime but this one will be be more then just adding new skills and changing things up like they did with the Werewolf. As they are reworking how Feeding works, they are adding in the Vampire Lord Form(Blood Scion) Plus adding new vampire abilties. Its going to be a completely reworked Vampire Skill Line.

I know there have been players that have really wanted to see a Vampire Lord transformation and wanted to have that experience in Eso. I did not think it was ever going to happen except maybe through a Polymorph like the Werewolf Lord. Well i was wrong and its coming with Greymoor.
The Vampire Lord form was a unique Vampire transformation heavily inspired by Underworld first seen in The Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim Dlc Dawnguard. Unlike the Dlc the Vampire Lord form in this game will be added to the Base game and not the Dlc/Chapter likely do to technical reasons and to keep it all in one skill line. The Dawnguard dlc itself seemed to be inspired by several sources of Popular Vampire Fiction including Underworld, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Blade and Van Hiesing. while the Vampire Child Babette part of Base Game Skyrim in the Dark Brotherhood Dlc seems to be inspired by the Vampire Little Girl seen in the Anna Rice Novel, Interview with the Vampire. Bethesda does seem to like to take inspirations from a lot of different fictions with their content.

The Vampire Lord would likely not be possible if not for Underworld Evolution and the Unique Dawnguard dlc for Tes 5 and the stuff seen in the game would not have happened without the other inspirations. Without Underworld there would be no Serana or Vampire Lord Form, Without Van Hiesing there wouldn't have been the crossbows, Without Blade there would be no, Isran as he was inspired by Blade. The Vampire facial appearances wouldn't have that Buffy the Vampire Slayer Vampire facial appearance. So that is what Made Dawnguard so successful oh and without Anna Rice there would likely be no Babette in the base game Dark Brotherhood dlc for Skyrim.

Trivial the Vampire Lord was devoleped by something called Game jam https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Game_Jam It orginally summoned Imps. Eventually the form made its way to the Dawnguard Dlc.


The Vampire skill line will be taking from previous interpretations seen in other Elder Scrolls games along with taking inspirations from Underworld and Dracula. While the Greymoor Chapter itself seems to be taking inspirations from Dracula, Underworld, Ravenloft, Wickerman, Wicked Witch of the West and the Chronicles of Narnia.

So it should be interesting to see what Zenimax has done with the Chapter.
Feel free to discuss the upcoming changes to the Vampire as we wait for the reveal.

thedoc1381b14_ESO

Awesome thx for the info. I'm excited to see the changes!!!

Thevampirenight

thedoc1381b14_ESO wrote: »

Awesome thx for the info. I'm excited to see the changes!!!

You're welcome.

Malkiv

Isn't there a forum section for feedback on the PTS? I think I saw it somewhere, but I could be imagining things.



EDIT: Sorry, I was being a *** prematurely. Will wait for details to drop - Want to see RPer response to this.

1mirg

Time to download the PTS again.

Last Time I downloaded it was for the necromancer.

Thevampirenight

Malkiv wrote: »

Isn't there a forum section for feedback on the PTS? I think I saw it somewhere, but I could be imagining things.

Greymoor isn't on the pts yet and it might not be on there for another couple of weeks.
What Zenimax is doing is allowing Community content creators like Alcast to show case Greymoor. In the next eight hours we will get to see the new Vampire Lord and the other new vampire skills in action.

Nemesis7884

RefLiberty

Cool, we are back to charging bites for gold.

drakthir

I'd rather not HAVE to use the transform, hope its optional, but i doubt it will be , gonna have to wait and see

TX12001rwb17_ESO

drakthir wrote: »

I'd rather not HAVE to use the transform, hope its optional, but i doubt it will be , gonna have to wait and see

That would cripple Vampires and make them the worst Vampire mechanics in any TES game, in no media or fiction does a Vampire function like a Werewolf where they only have power while transformed.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Take a close look at the Vampire Lord, he does not have long canines, the Skyrim Vampire Lord does.

James-Wayne

Apart from Alcast who else has had access to the Preview server to demo Greymoor?

bearbelly

RefLiberty wrote: »

Cool, we are back to charging bites for gold.

They can try, like they do now, but it won't be widely accepted like it used to be back in the beginning.
There are plenty of people who don't (and won't) charge for bites.

Mindcr0w

I have never and will never charge for a bite, and all my characters have been vampires since release.

I do, however, save my bites for guildies.

colossalvoids

Will just hope that "form" will be more optional like goliath ultimate on necro or it will be time for a final cure.

Banana

Should take some heat off the *** performance

Nerouyn

Is this new?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466270284635176970/667886991760818183/Combat_Change_Summary_for_Updates_25_and_26.png

Thevampirenight wrote: »

I know there have been players that have really wanted to see a Vampire Lord transformation

They've always been crystal clear about this not being vampire lord.

Vampire lord is a clan Volkihar thing.

The new vampire transformation in ESO will be something different.

Thevampirenight

I will admit was not expecting this. Or what I saw and well that is just hmm.

Nerouyn

The vamp transform is just a timed thing and doesn't bring new abilties, like the necro one.

Boring.

The non-elites look ok.

Not sure about the turn invisible after x seconds of sprinting thing. Whether that's actually useful or not depends on x.

Nemesis7884

REALLY interesting skills....i like it, something different, synergies etc...

Skullstachio

Question: Isn’t there supposed to be some sort of NDA before the official PTS?

noblecron

Anyone know if vampires are getting changed appearance wise? No more dead skin/zombie look?

I think Alcast and a few others got permission to view screenshots of it before PTS

RefLiberty

Skullstachio wrote: »

Question: Isn’t there supposed to be some sort of NDA before the official PTS?

Not if you are Alcast and you do stuff with ZOS as a part of promotional campaign.

RaddlemanNumber7

This is what they're saying on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/1243538307583299593/photo/1

Glacku808

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Thanks to @Alcast and other community creators. We are going to see 9 hours what the Vampire Overhaul will have in store for us. So I'm making this thread for feedback. I wanted to get an early start for this thread along with the other thread that has the other stuff thats going to be showcased like the Antiquities system, Greymoor Skyrim zones and the New Trail. Those are in one thread so I didn't have to make four seperate threads for each of the Alcast Show Cases videos.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/518707/unofficial-feedback-thread-for-the-new-antiquities-system-12-man-trial-and-skyrim-zone-showcases/p1?new=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDXATjYJXhg

https://alcasthq.com/eso-new-vampire-lord-skillline-showcase/


For those that don't know it yet or have not been paying much attention. The Vampire Skill Line is getting completely revamped. A lot like the werewolf one done sometime but this one will be be more then just adding new skills and changing things up like they did with the Werewolf. As they are reworking how Feeding works, they are adding in the Vampire Lord Form(Blood Scion) Plus adding new vampire abilties. Its going to be a completely reworked Vampire Skill Line.

I know there have been players that have really wanted to see a Vampire Lord transformation and wanted to have that experience in Eso. I did not think it was ever going to happen except maybe through a Polymorph like the Werewolf Lord. Well i was wrong and its coming with Greymoor.
The Vampire Lord form was a unique Vampire transformation heavily inspired by Underworld first seen in The Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim Dlc Dawnguard. Unlike the Dlc the Vampire Lord form in this game will be added to the Base game and not the Dlc/Chapter likely do to technical reasons and to keep it all in one skill line. The Dawnguard dlc itself seemed to be inspired by several sources of Popular Vampire Fiction including Underworld, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Blade and Van Hiesing. while the Vampire Child Babette part of Base Game Skyrim in the Dark Brotherhood Dlc seems to be inspired by the Vampire Little Girl seen in the Anna Rice Novel, Interview with the Vampire. Bethesda does seem to like to take inspirations from a lot of different fictions with their content.

The Vampire Lord would likely not be possible if not for Underworld Evolution and the Unique Dawnguard dlc for Tes 5 and the stuff seen in the game would not have happened without the other inspirations. Without Underworld there would be no Serana or Vampire Lord Form, Without Van Hiesing there wouldn't have been the crossbows, Without Blade there would be no, Isran as he was inspired by Blade. The Vampire facial appearances wouldn't have that Buffy the Vampire Slayer Vampire facial appearance. So that is what Made Dawnguard so successful oh and without Anna Rice there would likely be no Babette in the base game Dark Brotherhood dlc for Skyrim.

Trivial the Vampire Lord was devoleped by something called Game jam https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Game_Jam It orginally summoned Imps. Eventually the form made its way to the Dawnguard Dlc.


The Vampire skill line will be taking from previous interpretations seen in other Elder Scrolls games along with taking inspirations from Underworld and Dracula. While the Greymoor Chapter itself seems to be taking inspirations from Dracula, Underworld, Ravenloft, Wickerman, Wicked Witch of the West and the Chronicles of Narnia.

So it should be interesting to see what Zenimax has done with the Chapter.
Feel free to discuss the upcoming changes to the Vampire as we wait for the reveal.

"The Vampire Lord form was a unique Vampire transformation heavily inspired by Underworld first seen in The Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim Dlc Dawnguard. "


hey - except it totally doesn't look like that atm - the playable version, for now at least, looks like a daedra model with shadow wings, I wish it looked exactly like they advertised and back in skyrim, I hope that right now, its just pre pts

noblecron

I wonder if there's a variation of the ult for khajiit and Argonians also

ScardyFox

My thoughts? Pure effin laziness. So the brain trust came together and decided to basically make it Bone Goliath when they should have - imo - went with a werewolf like style of play. Let the player have the ability to keep that form under their own merits of skill and gameplay rather then a set-in-stone timer with no chance to extend it. Just use another minimalist template and slap a new skin on it -- outstandingly pedestrian lol.

colossalvoids

Kinda releaved, it's wasn't as bad as i imagined knowing their latest actions but actually pretty good. Non-mandatory ultimate, spammable, toggle and some reworks make sense.

technohic

LOL @ Unnatural Movement and strike from the shadows. I mean strike from the shadows seems to be a good buff to magblade without buffing stamblade which was what was needed like a year ago before they blasted the hell out of stamblade; but now pretty much everyone will be disappearing and can gank. Great. Thats what we need is everyone just cloaking.

SshadowSscale

Sad that nightblades lost their 1 unique ability now with vamp being able to go invis.....in other news every other class is now a better ganker than nightblades lmao

Tommy_The_Gun

So... um... what is the point of NB class at this point ? If I were one I would feel cheated...
I can roll DK / Sorc / Templar / Necro / Warden both stam or mag and have easy access to invisibility... while still have my own class skills on top of that lol