EU guilds why are you asking for so much personal information from your new recruits? (some guilds)

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So I join a guild, all looks good then I join discord and they have that introduce yourself section and I feel it's going too far when you ask recruits to provide their real life name, job, hobbies etc
This is an online game people please be mindful of your privacy and safety. But above all not everyone wants to disclose that information online.
I get it that you want to provide a family atmosphere but players can lie and say anything so ask yourself what is the point of asking about someone's hobbies etc that goes outside the game that is what you have real life friends for .
I'm sorry for venting but online gamers are asking too much from people these days it's very uncomfortable and not needed.
  • Elsonso
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    Recent wrote: »
    So I join a guild, all looks good then I join discord and they have that introduce yourself section and I feel it's going too far when you ask recruits to provide their real life name, job, hobbies etc

    I think of it this way... this is why they teach Creative Writing in schools. :neutral:

    It is so that, when you are joining a gaming guild, you can tell them all about yourself without actually revealing anything personal.

    P.S. - Lesson learned: Do not list your hobby as "creative writing".
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  • Lysette
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    It's maybe for socializing purposes - I was in a russian guild without to even speak or understand the language. The only thing I have in common with 2 of them is flying helicopters in real life. And of course as pilots they know english well enough and we could socialize. Most in that guild didn't speak english, I nevertheless found common ground with some of them in other real life areas - well common enough for us to google translate from russian to english and the other way round. Those contacts lasted longer than this guild - due to real world information it outlasted the game.
  • redspecter23
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    If any guild asks you to do anything you don't want to do, feel free to leave. They aren't the guild for you. Find a guild that suits your needs.

    I've left guilds for tons of reasons in the past. Some major, some would be considered very petty by most people but the point is that I would not have enjoyed my time there so I moved on.
  • LordGavus
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    I haven't come across this before however, if you are uncomfortable giving out such information, i would find a different guild that doesn't require it.
  • xshatox
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    Recent wrote: »
    So I join a guild, all looks good then I join discord and they have that introduce yourself section and I feel it's going too far when you ask recruits to provide their real life name, job, hobbies etc
    This is an online game people please be mindful of your privacy and safety. But above all not everyone wants to disclose that information online.
    I get it that you want to provide a family atmosphere but players can lie and say anything so ask yourself what is the point of asking about someone's hobbies etc that goes outside the game that is what you have real life friends for .
    I'm sorry for venting but online gamers are asking too much from people these days it's very uncomfortable and not needed.

    If they require discord then leave. I have quit several guilds over the years because they insisted i use discord. never gonna happen.

    Some guild do require discord for in game activities like progressive vet raid, organized PVP (ball group). Its difficult without discord for those. On normal activities discord not really needed probably just for socializing. I personally didnt used discord since I only solo PVP or normal trial, sometime vet trial but not hard trial like vcr3.
  • woufff
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    I do never accept Discord, we are here to play a game, not to know details about our private life!

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  • Dusk_Coven
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    Recent wrote: »
    So I join a guild, all looks good then I join discord and they have that introduce yourself section and I feel it's going too far when you ask recruits to provide their real life name, job, hobbies etc

    Even if ESO were a dating website (which is what typically asks for this sort of information -- and even they don't ask for your REAL name), there are way too many trolls around that no one would join it.
    If your password is your hobby or whatever... better change it now.
    Edited by Dusk_Coven on March 26, 2020 5:53AM
  • SydneyGrey
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    If they asked for your first name only, that would be acceptable. If they asked for your last name as well, that would NOT. I'm assuming they only asked for your first name (just to know what to call you).
  • FierceSam
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    There’s a strong argument here that OP isn’t actually talking about guilds in ESO as much as they are about Discord communities.

    Your ESO guild has no reason (or ability) to question players about anything. Players join the guild, contribute or not, and leave whenever they choose. Aside from the message of the day and guild chat, there’s no real way for the guild to build or reinforce their identity in-game. So for PC at least, Discord has become the focal point of many guilds’ activities.

    So often, when you are joining a guild what you are really joining is an active Discord community, many of whose morals, behaviours and standards are rooted in Discord rather than the game. Most Discord channels will have some kind of #introduce yourself page. Not because they want to make you feel uncomfortable, but because they want you to feel part of the community. They’re really less bothered about what your name is than they are about whether you prefer to be called by it or your game tag when they’re talking to you.

    The Discord channels I’ve been part of have all been very different, some are very games focussed, others are way more about a bunch of friends being able to chat together. And sometimes it’s a bit of a leap of faith at first. But I find it an indispensable part of my gaming.

    However, if you feel uncomfortable about it, don’t use it.
  • Asardes
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    Back when I was a kid, every MIRC channel was: "ASL PLS"
    Edited by Asardes on March 26, 2020 9:31AM
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  • Asardes
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    Recent wrote: »
    So I join a guild, all looks good then I join discord and they have that introduce yourself section and I feel it's going too far when you ask recruits to provide their real life name, job, hobbies etc
    This is an online game people please be mindful of your privacy and safety. But above all not everyone wants to disclose that information online.
    I get it that you want to provide a family atmosphere but players can lie and say anything so ask yourself what is the point of asking about someone's hobbies etc that goes outside the game that is what you have real life friends for .
    I'm sorry for venting but online gamers are asking too much from people these days it's very uncomfortable and not needed.

    If they require discord then leave. I have quit several guilds over the years because they insisted i use discord. never gonna happen.

    Discord or other such service is essential for organized PvP and PvE hard dungeon & trial runs. Outside of that is indeed optional. I don't use it much for the former either, since I mostly PuG :)
    Beta tester since February 2014, playing ESO-TU since October 2015
    vMA | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1
    EU PC CP 2000+
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    The Alchemist's Emporium: Friend
    Handelsgilde: Elite
    Divine Deals: Friend


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 35 | Master Crafter: all traits, styles & recipes
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 18 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 18 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 18 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 18 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 18 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 18 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 18 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 18 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 18 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 18 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 16 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 3 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 3 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 3 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 3 |
  • Grianasteri
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    Recent wrote: »
    So I join a guild, all looks good then I join discord and they have that introduce yourself section and I feel it's going too far when you ask recruits to provide their real life name, job, hobbies etc
    This is an online game people please be mindful of your privacy and safety. But above all not everyone wants to disclose that information online.
    I get it that you want to provide a family atmosphere but players can lie and say anything so ask yourself what is the point of asking about someone's hobbies etc that goes outside the game that is what you have real life friends for .
    I'm sorry for venting but online gamers are asking too much from people these days it's very uncomfortable and not needed.

    I guess the important things is that usually, these things are voluntary and optional. If it makes you feel uncomfrotable Id suggest you just let the guild leaders know, most folk are reasonable and understanding.
  • ThePlayer
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    Join Discord is important because it is the means to play in a group and talk during the trials/dungeons run.
    Better not to listen to anyone who tells you that Discord is not necessary, usually solitary players whose aim is to do only quests and who still have not understood the meaning of mmo games.
    All the discord that ask for your name, job, age is better to leave them, i personally only ask for the account name (when the discord name is different from the one in the guild roster), the class, the role played and the nationality.
  • Ri_Khan
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    If you're giving out your personal info to strangers on the internet, you're doing it wrong. That being said, I do think there is way too much anonymity going on between the game/forum/reddit/discord that helps create a very untrustworthy environment. There is no personal accountability when you allow someone to constantly change their ID or hide behind alt accounts and usernames. I've had too many negative experiences with individuals throughout the years that do this and it has severely damaged my opinion and trust of this community and mmo players in general.
  • Universe
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    Maybe if it is "social" guild they may ask for it, but usually it is never asked.
    If someone asks me I just answer: "My name is Universe and I'm 5,500 years old vampire" :D
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    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    I played mostly on PC EU server but started playing on PC NA too because of poor performance of the former
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  • Dusk_Coven
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    Universe wrote: »
    Maybe if it is "social" guild they may ask for it, but usually it is never asked.
    If someone asks me I just answer: "My name is Universe and I'm 5,500 years old vampire" :D

    In some cases asking people for an introduction is a way of seeing if you're going to act maturely.
    Suggesting topics is a way of giving people an idea of something to say.
    So if you answer like that, they might think you're an ass and you're going to act that way.

    In the OP post, "real life name" is the big red flag and job is sort of there too. Some people don't like saying they are a lawyer or they work in a government agency, for example. So if any of those are not merely suggestions, it's suspicious when too much can be done anonymously over the internet, such as phishing.
    But simply asking for an introduction is not and neither is expecting a mature answer an invalid way of screening.
    Edited by Dusk_Coven on March 26, 2020 1:38PM
  • JAwtunes
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    I was in one as a new player many years ago and they required you to complete an online application. The application would then be reviewed by the new recruit committee. Bloody custard drinkers.
  • Universe
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    Dusk_Coven wrote: »
    Universe wrote: »
    Maybe if it is "social" guild they may ask for it, but usually it is never asked.
    If someone asks me I just answer: "My name is Universe and I'm 5,500 years old vampire" :D

    In some cases asking people for an introduction is a way of seeing if you're going to act maturely.
    Suggesting topics is a way of giving people an idea of something to say.
    So if you answer like that, they might think you're an ass and you're going to act that way.

    In the OP post, "real life name" is the big red flag and job is sort of there too. Some people don't like saying they are a lawyer or they work in a government agency, for example. So if any of those are not merely suggestions, it's suspicious when too much can be done anonymously over the internet, such as phishing.
    But simply asking for an introduction is not and neither is expecting a mature answer an invalid way of screening.

    It is a joke B)
    It is an online game and it is best to not share real life info with strangers that I most likely never see IRL in my lifetime.
    If they think I'm an arrogant ass because of my response, they can feel what they want.
    I don't share my country of residence too, they can guess it if they wish.
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, The Trial Bosses Solo Slayer
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    I played mostly on PC EU server but started playing on PC NA too because of poor performance of the former
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
    Guild Master of "The Champions" - AD AvA & Dueling guild
  • Darkenarlol
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    maybe guild leaders came from EVE online

    where guild's intelligence service checks your

    family members hobbies, your bank account history

    and your dog's favorite food before you can get

    a probation as their labour slave (it is only partially a joke)
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  • Zulera301
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    I didn't get a degree in creative writing for nothing!
    actually I didn't get a degree in it at all.

    I once joined a guild that might as well be a discord guild with how hard they push it and shove it down everyone's throats with automated messages and other dumb stuff. I would have quit the guild, but the players there sell stuff for really low prices in their (trader-less) guild store, so I stick around.
    I left their discord about 3 months ago though and they still haven't caught on.

    odds are they're not gonna screen you.
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  • Knightpanther
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    You don't have to give anyone anything, in fact having spent most of my life in Security i would advise against it.
    If you have to make something up go ahead and i would strongly advise against joining anything like discord.

    Be safe
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  • Cadbury
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    I lie. I use discord for a guild in another game, and I simply use a false but plausible sounding name and location.
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • ForzaRammer
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    Just use some generic names, like eddie johnson.
    No one is going to try to find you anyways.
    And you just claim to work at walmart or something.
    There are prolly over 10 eddie johnson working for walmart anyways.

  • Cadbury
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    Just use some generic names, like eddie johnson.
    No one is going to try to find you anyways.
    And you just claim to work at walmart or something.
    There are prolly over 10 eddie johnson working for walmart anyways.

    Hi, I'm Ed Johnson, manager of Aldi and part-time lion tamer.
    Edited by Cadbury on March 26, 2020 4:36PM
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
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