Simple Alternative to proposed la changes

TheFM

Instead of changing the mechanics of the game completely, wouldn't it just make more sense to reduce the amount of damage the light attack cp star increases your light attacks???? In nocp campaigns light attacks are not a problem at all. With the proposed change no cp players will be hurting a lot. It will only empower Extreme tanky builds even further, and heal bot builds.

This would help reduce damage output in cp campaigns, dungeons and trials, but wouldn't cripple the no cp campaign in PvP. You could then increase heavy attacks by a small percentage instead of the crazy amount proposed. You could keep the rest of the ideas , but the proposed flat nerf to light attacks is just way way too much.

Dusk_Coven

"Successive Light attacks grant a stacking resource buff, up to 3 consecutive attacks maxing out the benefit (without weaving abilities)."

Light Attack weaving -- specifically cancelling the time cost of a Light Attack by following up with a skill as soon as possible to get a no-cost split second attack -- is not intuitive, should never have been allowed. If you have to tell people it's possible in a tooltip, it's probably because no reasonable person would have expected it should work.
How about we let the monsters do it with every one of their skills and heavy attacks? Do it so fast you never even see the animation, just some mysterious damage tick.

But the devs probably couldn't fix it then, probably still can't code their way out of it now, and won't come out and say it.
If they did outright disallow it or code it out now there'd be uproar because they were complicit all this time.
This change to Light Attack/Heavy attack is basically a band-aid to stop it now. A convoluted paradigm shift that includes trying to take light attack cancellation away by making it obsolete or less desirable to do.

Well, too little too late. People are too entrenched in keeping it and would be too angry about it being taken away.
Too many numbers in the minds of the players are set. They lose even a bit of DPS from any proposed change and they wail because they don't think they'll be able to still do what they've been doing all this time.
Even though the devs can subsequently tweak all PvE opponent numbers to make achievements achievable according to whatever internal standards they have (or don't actually have).

If this is their plan, they should just bite the bullet and come right out and say they want light attack weaving gone to reduce the numbers.

TheFM

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

"Successive Light attacks grant a stacking resource buff, up to 3 consecutive attacks maxing out the benefit (without weaving abilities)."

Light Attack weaving -- specifically cancelling the time cost of a Light Attack by following up with a skill as soon as possible to get a no-cost split second attack -- is not intuitive, should never have been allowed. If you have to tell people it's possible in a tooltip, it's probably because no reasonable person would have expected it should work.
How about we let the monsters do it with every one of their skills and heavy attacks? Do it so fast you never even see the animation, just some mysterious damage tick.

But the devs probably couldn't fix it then, probably still can't code their way out of it now, and won't come out and say it.
If they did outright disallow it or code it out now there'd be uproar because they were complicit all this time.
This change to Light Attack/Heavy attack is basically a band-aid to stop it now. A convoluted paradigm shift that includes trying to take light attack cancellation away by making it obsolete or less desirable to do.

Well, too little too late. People are too entrenched in keeping it and would be too angry about it being taken away.
Too many numbers in the minds of the players are set. They lose even a bit of DPS from any proposed change and they wail because they don't think they'll be able to still do what they've been doing all this time.
Even though the devs can subsequently tweak all PvE opponent numbers to make achievements achievable according to whatever internal standards they have (or don't actually have).

I'll just put spell enchants on my jewelry and continue light attack weaving. Abd honestly I light attack weaved without even knowing it was a thing because I noticed it was more effective than just doing ability after ability.

And like I said, they could just change the cp star to reduce the damage, and then they wouldn't neuter nocp builds.

ruumwolf

A 78% nerf to light attacks is simply too much. Something around 40-50% would be better. Weaving would still allow higher dps but missing a few would not completely wreck your dps. There are just too many skills and gear sets that are reliant on light attacks to go through with these proposed changes.

LadyNalcarya

I don't know what they're thinking tbh.
ZOS was harshly criticized for overnerfing and overbuffing stuff in the past. People are tired from this balance whack-a-mole. And what we see now? 78% nerf, isn't that great.
I personally agree that light attacks could use a nerf, 20% maybe, and they could also buff easy mode builds that rely on heavy attacks, but this is just insane.

TheFM

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

I don't know what they're thinking tbh.
ZOS was harshly criticized for overnerfing and overbuffing stuff in the past. People are tired from this balance whack-a-mole. And what we see now? 78% nerf, isn't that great.
I personally agree that light attacks could use a nerf, 20% maybe, and they could also buff easy mode builds that rely on heavy attacks, but this is just insane.

On the up side, I will now be able to do 28 k combos if I weave a heavy in before i toss out my crystal frag with my sorc on low APM players if they change this. Im sure they are gonna LOVE that. xD