Sorc Build.

Spaniardkiin

Hi, everyone!

I have never play with a sorc and i want to try both stamina and Magicka builds (first the magicka one).

Could you recommend me both front and back bar skills, a mundus Stone, and a begginer set and a vet set, please? Mostly for PVP and Dungeons solo, DPS and i would enjoy both non-pet and pet build.

Thanks a lot for your help!!

Edit: I dont have Psijic Order skill line jaja...

xshatox

Front: Crystal fragment, daedric prey, elemental weapon, volatile familiar, twilight matriach, shooting star

Back: chanelled acceleration, hardened ward, unstable wall element, volatile familiar, twilight matriach, greater storm atronach

Mundus: shadow mundus

Beginner: julianos + mother sorrow + grothdar
Vet: burning spellweave (false god if you have on) + mother sorrow + grothdar or zaan

Drink: witchmother potent brew

Asardes

While leveling I would recommend using crafted training gear and changing that about 10 levels or so and whatever jewelry happens to drop.

1) Stamina: 5 Night Mother's Gaze (body) + 4 Hunding's (weapons, head, shoulders) or other set with stamina bonuses + 3 random robust or healthy jewels, regardless of quality - if you go trough zones, just collect the robust jewelry set from there and use it for 3/5 bonuses. Have crafted light waist and heavy chest, the other 5 pieces medium, to level all armor skills.
The skill setup should look like in the build linked below, although the gear there is obviously CP160 since I don't plan builds for low levels. You should add them as soon as the become available, and morph them. They should be available by level 30 or so from what I remember leveling them - I level fast in normal Maelstrom so I don't remember the details by level. Rotation is quite simple. Buff with Critical Surge every 30s (this is also your main heal), then Bound Armaments every 40s, Rearming Trap > bar swap > Hurricane > light attack > Endless Hail > light attack > Poison Injection > bar swap > light attack > Rapid Strikes till your back bar DoTs start to drop, then refresh them - they last 14-15s, and Poison Injection you can just leave to run out since it's weak. When you see 4 daggers floating, activate Bound Armaments again to throw them, when mobs drop to low HP, use Whirling Blades to execute instead of Rapid Strikes. If you have problems sustaining you can do Rapid Strikes or Whirling Blades with heavy attack, though it will be a bit slower and you'll get fewer attacks overall till the DoTs run out.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=95229

2) Magicka: 5 Seducer + 4 Torug's Pact + 3 random arcane or healthy jewels, regardless of quality. Have crafted the chest heavy, legs medium, the rest light to level all armor skills. Depending whether you go with or without pets the skill setup changes somewhat. For beginner I actually recommend using 2 pets, and simply doing heavy attacks, with few other skills. The setup is basically the one linked below, though gear may be different. You can change the Tormentor with the other morph, Matriarch, for more heals. Buff with Critical Surge and apply Elemental drain on bigger mobs. The rotation is basically doing heavy attack > curse > heavy attack > familiar > heavy attack > tormentor (repeat).
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=52316

Spaniardkiin

Asardes wrote: »

While leveling I would recommend using crafted training gear and changing that about 10 levels or so and whatever jewelry happens to drop.

1) Stamina: 5 Night Mother's Gaze (body) + 4 Hunding's (weapons, head, shoulders) or other set with stamina bonuses + 3 random robust or healthy jewels, regardless of quality - if you go trough zones, just collect the robust jewelry set from there and use it for 3/5 bonuses. Have crafted light waist and heavy chest, the other 5 pieces medium, to level all armor skills.
The skill setup should look like in the build linked below, although the gear there is obviously CP160 since I don't plan builds for low levels. You should add them as soon as the become available, and morph them. They should be available by level 30 or so from what I remember leveling them - I level fast in normal Maelstrom so I don't remember the details by level. Rotation is quite simple. Buff with Critical Surge every 30s (this is also your main heal), then Bound Armaments every 40s, Rearming Trap > bar swap > Hurricane > light attack > Endless Hail > light attack > Poison Injection > bar swap > light attack > Rapid Strikes till your back bar DoTs start to drop, then refresh them - they last 14-15s, and Poison Injection you can just leave to run out since it's weak. When you see 4 daggers floating, activate Bound Armaments again to throw them, when mobs drop to low HP, use Whirling Blades to execute instead of Rapid Strikes. If you have problems sustaining you can do Rapid Strikes or Whirling Blades with heavy attack, though it will be a bit slower and you'll get fewer attacks overall till the DoTs run out.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=95229

2) Magicka: 5 Seducer + 4 Torug's Pact + 3 random arcane or healthy jewels, regardless of quality. Have crafted the chest heavy, legs medium, the rest light to level all armor skills. Depending whether you go with or without pets the skill setup changes somewhat. For beginner I actually recommend using 2 pets, and simply doing heavy attacks, with few other skills. The setup is basically the one linked below, though gear may be different. You can change the Tormentor with the other morph, Matriarch, for more heals. Buff with Critical Surge and apply Elemental drain on bigger mobs. The rotation is basically doing heavy attack > curse > heavy attack > familiar > heavy attack > tormentor (repeat).
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=52316

Medium to magicka sorc? I didnt knew medium passives works to magicka! Thanks!

Asardes

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

While leveling I would recommend using crafted training gear and changing that about 10 levels or so and whatever jewelry happens to drop.

1) Stamina: 5 Night Mother's Gaze (body) + 4 Hunding's (weapons, head, shoulders) or other set with stamina bonuses + 3 random robust or healthy jewels, regardless of quality - if you go trough zones, just collect the robust jewelry set from there and use it for 3/5 bonuses. Have crafted light waist and heavy chest, the other 5 pieces medium, to level all armor skills.
The skill setup should look like in the build linked below, although the gear there is obviously CP160 since I don't plan builds for low levels. You should add them as soon as the become available, and morph them. They should be available by level 30 or so from what I remember leveling them - I level fast in normal Maelstrom so I don't remember the details by level. Rotation is quite simple. Buff with Critical Surge every 30s (this is also your main heal), then Bound Armaments every 40s, Rearming Trap > bar swap > Hurricane > light attack > Endless Hail > light attack > Poison Injection > bar swap > light attack > Rapid Strikes till your back bar DoTs start to drop, then refresh them - they last 14-15s, and Poison Injection you can just leave to run out since it's weak. When you see 4 daggers floating, activate Bound Armaments again to throw them, when mobs drop to low HP, use Whirling Blades to execute instead of Rapid Strikes. If you have problems sustaining you can do Rapid Strikes or Whirling Blades with heavy attack, though it will be a bit slower and you'll get fewer attacks overall till the DoTs run out.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=95229

2) Magicka: 5 Seducer + 4 Torug's Pact + 3 random arcane or healthy jewels, regardless of quality. Have crafted the chest heavy, legs medium, the rest light to level all armor skills. Depending whether you go with or without pets the skill setup changes somewhat. For beginner I actually recommend using 2 pets, and simply doing heavy attacks, with few other skills. The setup is basically the one linked below, though gear may be different. You can change the Tormentor with the other morph, Matriarch, for more heals. Buff with Critical Surge and apply Elemental drain on bigger mobs. The rotation is basically doing heavy attack > curse > heavy attack > familiar > heavy attack > tormentor (repeat).
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=52316

Medium to magicka sorc? I didnt knew medium passives works to magicka! Thanks!

Well you can wear 1 medium 1 heavy and 5 light for magicka, so you can have all of those armor types leveled, and make use of certain passives later. There is also another skill line called Undaunted, where you have a passive, Undaunted Mettle, that gives you extra stats for having at least 1 piece of each heavy, medium, light. The medium armor passives won't increase your damage, but they make roll dodging and sprinting easier since they add cost reduction and stamina recovery bonuses, but they aren't mandatory (Wind Walker, Athletics).

Spaniardkiin

Asardes wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

While leveling I would recommend using crafted training gear and changing that about 10 levels or so and whatever jewelry happens to drop.

1) Stamina: 5 Night Mother's Gaze (body) + 4 Hunding's (weapons, head, shoulders) or other set with stamina bonuses + 3 random robust or healthy jewels, regardless of quality - if you go trough zones, just collect the robust jewelry set from there and use it for 3/5 bonuses. Have crafted light waist and heavy chest, the other 5 pieces medium, to level all armor skills.
The skill setup should look like in the build linked below, although the gear there is obviously CP160 since I don't plan builds for low levels. You should add them as soon as the become available, and morph them. They should be available by level 30 or so from what I remember leveling them - I level fast in normal Maelstrom so I don't remember the details by level. Rotation is quite simple. Buff with Critical Surge every 30s (this is also your main heal), then Bound Armaments every 40s, Rearming Trap > bar swap > Hurricane > light attack > Endless Hail > light attack > Poison Injection > bar swap > light attack > Rapid Strikes till your back bar DoTs start to drop, then refresh them - they last 14-15s, and Poison Injection you can just leave to run out since it's weak. When you see 4 daggers floating, activate Bound Armaments again to throw them, when mobs drop to low HP, use Whirling Blades to execute instead of Rapid Strikes. If you have problems sustaining you can do Rapid Strikes or Whirling Blades with heavy attack, though it will be a bit slower and you'll get fewer attacks overall till the DoTs run out.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=95229

2) Magicka: 5 Seducer + 4 Torug's Pact + 3 random arcane or healthy jewels, regardless of quality. Have crafted the chest heavy, legs medium, the rest light to level all armor skills. Depending whether you go with or without pets the skill setup changes somewhat. For beginner I actually recommend using 2 pets, and simply doing heavy attacks, with few other skills. The setup is basically the one linked below, though gear may be different. You can change the Tormentor with the other morph, Matriarch, for more heals. Buff with Critical Surge and apply Elemental drain on bigger mobs. The rotation is basically doing heavy attack > curse > heavy attack > familiar > heavy attack > tormentor (repeat).
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=52316

Medium to magicka sorc? I didnt knew medium passives works to magicka! Thanks!

Well you can wear 1 medium 1 heavy and 5 light for magicka, so you can have all of those armor types leveled, and make use of certain passives later. There is also another skill line called Undaunted, where you have a passive, Undaunted Mettle, that gives you extra stats for having at least 1 piece of each heavy, medium, light. The medium armor passives won't increase your damage, but they make roll dodging and sprinting easier since they add cost reduction and stamina recovery bonuses, but they aren't mandatory (Wind Walker, Athletics).

And a non-pet build is ok?? How could be?

Asardes

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

While leveling I would recommend using crafted training gear and changing that about 10 levels or so and whatever jewelry happens to drop.

1) Stamina: 5 Night Mother's Gaze (body) + 4 Hunding's (weapons, head, shoulders) or other set with stamina bonuses + 3 random robust or healthy jewels, regardless of quality - if you go trough zones, just collect the robust jewelry set from there and use it for 3/5 bonuses. Have crafted light waist and heavy chest, the other 5 pieces medium, to level all armor skills.
The skill setup should look like in the build linked below, although the gear there is obviously CP160 since I don't plan builds for low levels. You should add them as soon as the become available, and morph them. They should be available by level 30 or so from what I remember leveling them - I level fast in normal Maelstrom so I don't remember the details by level. Rotation is quite simple. Buff with Critical Surge every 30s (this is also your main heal), then Bound Armaments every 40s, Rearming Trap > bar swap > Hurricane > light attack > Endless Hail > light attack > Poison Injection > bar swap > light attack > Rapid Strikes till your back bar DoTs start to drop, then refresh them - they last 14-15s, and Poison Injection you can just leave to run out since it's weak. When you see 4 daggers floating, activate Bound Armaments again to throw them, when mobs drop to low HP, use Whirling Blades to execute instead of Rapid Strikes. If you have problems sustaining you can do Rapid Strikes or Whirling Blades with heavy attack, though it will be a bit slower and you'll get fewer attacks overall till the DoTs run out.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=95229

2) Magicka: 5 Seducer + 4 Torug's Pact + 3 random arcane or healthy jewels, regardless of quality. Have crafted the chest heavy, legs medium, the rest light to level all armor skills. Depending whether you go with or without pets the skill setup changes somewhat. For beginner I actually recommend using 2 pets, and simply doing heavy attacks, with few other skills. The setup is basically the one linked below, though gear may be different. You can change the Tormentor with the other morph, Matriarch, for more heals. Buff with Critical Surge and apply Elemental drain on bigger mobs. The rotation is basically doing heavy attack > curse > heavy attack > familiar > heavy attack > tormentor (repeat).
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=52316

Medium to magicka sorc? I didnt knew medium passives works to magicka! Thanks!

Well you can wear 1 medium 1 heavy and 5 light for magicka, so you can have all of those armor types leveled, and make use of certain passives later. There is also another skill line called Undaunted, where you have a passive, Undaunted Mettle, that gives you extra stats for having at least 1 piece of each heavy, medium, light. The medium armor passives won't increase your damage, but they make roll dodging and sprinting easier since they add cost reduction and stamina recovery bonuses, but they aren't mandatory (Wind Walker, Athletics).

And a non-pet build is ok?? How could be?

Yes, but the rotation is a bit more complicated, don't try to make end game builds yet until you learn the class because you'll get hammered hard by mobs. Try something simple at first. Here is something non-pet, as simple as it can get, but still requires a skill locked behind a DLC (Psijic: Elemental Weapon & Channeled Acceleration) - if you don't have access to that just use Force Pulse/Crushing Shock as spammable. Also you can slot Elemental Drain instead of Channeled Acceleration and Critical Surge instead of Bound Aegis on back bar when running solo or doing dungeon w/o healer. https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=188108

AcadianPaladin

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

Spaniardkiin

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

zvavi

Asardes wrote: »

Also you can slot Critical Surge instead of Bound Aegis on back bar when running solo or doing dungeon w/o healer.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=188108

Never trust your healer surge on bar on all the time excluding trials (then you can slot trap beast instead) in dungeons there will be a lot of times where you stop dpsing for mechanics, so no reason to run minor force much.
Change entropy to hunting curse, just hits much harder, in the same time frame. Bsw is a pain to grind, i think it is even easier to even grind false god (non perfected). Soooo for gear? Depends on race. And how well you sustain. My i am too lazy to farm specific things was always divines bright throat boast + mothet's sorrow for me (even though a bit pricey) . In any way, even if you chose julianos+bsw, if you are using both lightning and fire, try going for illambris as monster set instead. Force pulse spammable instead of ele weapons

Asardes

zvavi wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Also you can slot Critical Surge instead of Bound Aegis on back bar when running solo or doing dungeon w/o healer.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=188108

Never trust your healer surge on bar on all the time excluding trials (then you can slot trap beast instead) in dungeons there will be a lot of times where you stop dpsing for mechanics, so no reason to run minor force much.
Change entropy to hunting curse, just hits much harder, in the same time frame. Bsw is a pain to grind, i think it is even easier to even grind false god (non perfected). Soooo for gear? Depends on race. And how well you sustain. My i am too lazy to farm specific things was always divines bright throat boast + mothet's sorrow for me (even though a bit pricey) . In any way, even if you chose julianos+bsw, if you are using both lightning and fire, try going for illambris as monster set instead. Force pulse spammable instead of ele weapons

Bright Throat is a PvP set, and Critical Surge is pretty reliable in PvE from my experience if your crit chance is over 50% and you're running DoTs. Finished vMA, Craglorn vets, vAS+1 and almost all DLC dungeons on veteran on my sorc. In PvP I do run Resto back bar but I try to keep the discussion to the point. I assume OP wants PvE builds for starters.

Asardes

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

No, running resto back bar is not necessary in PvE. You lose too much DPS.

Spaniardkiin

Asardes wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

No, running resto back bar is not necessary in PvE. You lose too much DPS.

Ah, ok. I though It would be better resto in Dungeons solo to survive and both destro un PVP. Ok, thanks!!

TheRealCherokeee3

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

No, running resto back bar is not necessary in PvE. You lose too much DPS.

Ah, ok. I though It would be better resto in Dungeons solo to survive and both destro un PVP. Ok, thanks!!

Other way round! Double destro in PvE and aim for high crit and keep surge up constantly like others said. Usually more than enough to be tanky and stable. PvP is typically where you slot that resto or use Dark Conversion with a sword and board setup.

zvavi

Asardes wrote: »

Bright Throat is a PvP set, and Critical Surge is pretty reliable in PvE from my experience if your crit chance is over 50% and you're running DoTs. Finished vMA, Craglorn vets, vAS+1 and almost all DLC dungeons on veteran on my sorc. In PvP I do run Resto back bar but I try to keep the discussion to the point. I assume OP wants PvE builds for starters.

Bright throat is a sustain set, coincidentally, it is important in pvp. When 70% of healers you find in dungeons, never heard of eledrain (and i pug dlc daily, so i have general idea) and 40% never heard about shards/orbs either (some healers are not even aware they use shards) sustain is an issue.
I mean, look, lets do some math. Bright throat is 4192 mag+ 279 mag regen.
Gear of 3 max mag+ 300 spell damage (comparing to julianos with 3 max mag stats) you end up trading 904 max mag and 279 regen for 300 spell damage.you can trade 278 spell damage to 270 regen through jewelry (infused enchant golden) , so lets assume that we need the sustain, and that we use it on the jewelry to change it. We got 904 max mag, 278 spell damage and 279 regen, vs 300 spell damage and 270 regen. 279 regen>270 regen, 904 max mag+ 279 spell damage = 365 spell damage> 300 spell damage.

So damage if you need the sustain is bigger on btb vs infused recovery+ 3 max mag julianos. Now, why i pair it with specifically mother's sorrow. As you know, crit has diminishing returns (like all stats) precise front bar is wooping 68.3% critical with minor prophecy (which you will have super high uptime of), trading crit for max mag at those numbers might (not 100% sure) be good enough for dungeons, since you get low warhorn uptime.

While i do agree that if you dont need the sustain btb is inferior, but i usually find new people straggling with it (especially if not breton) and then regressing to heavy attack builds.

Now if you will excuse me i need to put back my gear properly cause i had to find light armor equipment that doesn't give me crit stats to check the numbers

PS: divines purple btb is cheaper than crafting 5 julianos body pieces.

Spaniardkiin

TheRealCherokeee3 wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

No, running resto back bar is not necessary in PvE. You lose too much DPS.

Ah, ok. I though It would be better resto in Dungeons solo to survive and both destro un PVP. Ok, thanks!!

Other way round! Double destro in PvE and aim for high crit and keep surge up constantly like others said. Usually more than enough to be tanky and stable. PvP is typically where you slot that resto or use Dark Conversion with a sword and board setup.

Why with the sword and what its a Board Setup??
Im really noob jajaja

TheRealCherokeee3

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

TheRealCherokeee3 wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

No, running resto back bar is not necessary in PvE. You lose too much DPS.

Ah, ok. I though It would be better resto in Dungeons solo to survive and both destro un PVP. Ok, thanks!!

Other way round! Double destro in PvE and aim for high crit and keep surge up constantly like others said. Usually more than enough to be tanky and stable. PvP is typically where you slot that resto or use Dark Conversion with a sword and board setup.

Why with the sword and what its a Board Setup??
Im really noob jajaja

Lol sorry my sword and board comment is a bit off topic into PvP and your primarily concerned with PvE. Follow these guys tips and focus on that and getting solid with rotation and you'll be fine

Spaniardkiin

TheRealCherokeee3 wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

TheRealCherokeee3 wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

No, running resto back bar is not necessary in PvE. You lose too much DPS.

Ah, ok. I though It would be better resto in Dungeons solo to survive and both destro un PVP. Ok, thanks!!

Other way round! Double destro in PvE and aim for high crit and keep surge up constantly like others said. Usually more than enough to be tanky and stable. PvP is typically where you slot that resto or use Dark Conversion with a sword and board setup.

Why with the sword and what its a Board Setup??
Im really noob jajaja

Lol sorry my sword and board comment is a bit off topic into PvP and your primarily concerned with PvE. Follow these guys tips and focus on that and getting solid with rotation and you'll be fine

Im going yo start with Dungeons to learn, but my goal is PVP. If you could explain me toca learn i would really appreciate!

Asardes

zvavi wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Bright Throat is a PvP set, and Critical Surge is pretty reliable in PvE from my experience if your crit chance is over 50% and you're running DoTs. Finished vMA, Craglorn vets, vAS+1 and almost all DLC dungeons on veteran on my sorc. In PvP I do run Resto back bar but I try to keep the discussion to the point. I assume OP wants PvE builds for starters.

Bright throat is a sustain set, coincidentally, it is important in pvp. When 70% of healers you find in dungeons, never heard of eledrain (and i pug dlc daily, so i have general idea) and 40% never heard about shards/orbs either (some healers are not even aware they use shards) sustain is an issue.
I mean, look, lets do some math. Bright throat is 4192 mag+ 279 mag regen.
Gear of 3 max mag+ 300 spell damage (comparing to julianos with 3 max mag stats) you end up trading 904 max mag and 279 regen for 300 spell damage.you can trade 278 spell damage to 270 regen through jewelry (infused enchant golden) , so lets assume that we need the sustain, and that we use it on the jewelry to change it. We got 904 max mag, 278 spell damage and 279 regen, vs 300 spell damage and 270 regen. 279 regen>270 regen, 904 max mag+ 279 spell damage = 365 spell damage> 300 spell damage.

PS: divines purple btb is cheaper than crafting 5 julianos body pieces.

PvE damage scales highest on spell critical, rather than max magicka & spell damage. That's where Bright Throat is lacking. I mean I don't have any build with less than 50% spell critical, and some are up to 72% (Mag NB). And I do PuG almost exclusively. If the healer doesn't have drain, I'll slot it, no big deal. Lacking Major Breach is also a 10-12% DPS loss, so it's not only about sustain.

MashmalloMan

@Spaniardkiin Here are 2 great pvp videos to watch.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2ETPPvTbtW0&t=550s

This mag sorc video goes really in depth. The player is fantastic and has been around for a very long time, they have many mag sorc guides if you're willing to explore for pve too. They have a lot of useful info and tons of different setups for whatever you need in pvp in the video I linked.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3HhBxEJhRO4

This stam sorc video is a build I've been using for 3-4 months, I've made my own tweaks like food/monster set/skills, but the core idea remains the same. It is very fun and an "off-meta" build that makes great use of magicka abilities like streak/dark deal to have amazing mobility, defense and sustain.

1v1 fights aren't the strong suit, but BG's are about working as a team anyway. It's extremely fun and avoids the "meta" that is stacking weapon damage with sets like Fury + New Moon, it also doesn't rely on Dizzy Swing as your spammable (don't like it) and instead focusses on spreading dots to proc Azureblight. I realize your new and it relies on getting a special 2 Handed weapon, but it's worth the investment. You would want to beat vet maelstrom arena for the Bow and Destruction staff since they're best in slot for pve anyway.

Lord-Otto

xshatox wrote: »

Front: Crystal fragment, daedric prey, elemental weapon, volatile familiar, twilight matriach, shooting star

Back: chanelled acceleration, hardened ward, unstable wall element, volatile familiar, twilight matriach, greater storm atronach

Mundus: shadow mundus

Beginner: julianos + mother sorrow + grothdar
Vet: burning spellweave (false god if you have on) + mother sorrow + grothdar or zaan

Drink: witchmother potent brew

Great post! Small things to add:

- fire staves, both infused
- armor divines
- jewelry arcane for beginner, maybe bloodthirsty later
- Maelstrom for backbar if available

Spaniardkiin

MashmalloMan wrote: »

@Spaniardkiin Here are 2 great pvp videos to watch.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2ETPPvTbtW0&t=550s

This mag sorc video goes really in depth. The player is fantastic and has been around for a very long time, they have many mag sorc guides if you're willing to explore for pve too. They have a lot of useful info and tons of different setups for whatever you need in pvp in the video I linked.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3HhBxEJhRO4

This stam sorc video is a build I've been using for 3-4 months, I've made my own tweaks like food/monster set/skills, but the core idea remains the same. It is very fun and an "off-meta" build that makes great use of magicka abilities like streak/dark deal to have amazing mobility, defense and sustain.

1v1 fights aren't the strong suit, but BG's are about working as a team anyway. It's extremely fun and avoids the "meta" that is stacking weapon damage with sets like Fury + New Moon, it also doesn't rely on Dizzy Swing as your spammable (don't like it) and instead focusses on spreading dots to proc Azureblight. I realize your new and it relies on getting a special 2 Handed weapon, but it's worth the investment. You would want to beat vet maelstrom arena for the Bow and Destruction staff since they're best in slot for pve anyway.

Thanks a lot for the info and vids!!

Spaniardkiin

MashmalloMan wrote: »

@Spaniardkiin Here are 2 great pvp videos to watch.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2ETPPvTbtW0&t=550s

This mag sorc video goes really in depth. The player is fantastic and has been around for a very long time, they have many mag sorc guides if you're willing to explore for pve too. They have a lot of useful info and tons of different setups for whatever you need in pvp in the video I linked.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3HhBxEJhRO4

This stam sorc video is a build I've been using for 3-4 months, I've made my own tweaks like food/monster set/skills, but the core idea remains the same. It is very fun and an "off-meta" build that makes great use of magicka abilities like streak/dark deal to have amazing mobility, defense and sustain.

1v1 fights aren't the strong suit, but BG's are about working as a team anyway. It's extremely fun and avoids the "meta" that is stacking weapon damage with sets like Fury + New Moon, it also doesn't rely on Dizzy Swing as your spammable (don't like it) and instead focusses on spreading dots to proc Azureblight. I realize your new and it relies on getting a special 2 Handed weapon, but it's worth the investment. You would want to beat vet maelstrom arena for the Bow and Destruction staff since they're best in slot for pve anyway.

Do you know the addon yo coldown skills he use informe the seconds video?

AcadianPaladin

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

I want Major Breach (EleDrain) a lot more than I want Life Steal from Siphon. Between Surge and Matriarch I have plenty of healing.

zvavi

Asardes wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Bright Throat is a PvP set, and Critical Surge is pretty reliable in PvE from my experience if your crit chance is over 50% and you're running DoTs. Finished vMA, Craglorn vets, vAS+1 and almost all DLC dungeons on veteran on my sorc. In PvP I do run Resto back bar but I try to keep the discussion to the point. I assume OP wants PvE builds for starters.

Bright throat is a sustain set, coincidentally, it is important in pvp. When 70% of healers you find in dungeons, never heard of eledrain (and i pug dlc daily, so i have general idea) and 40% never heard about shards/orbs either (some healers are not even aware they use shards) sustain is an issue.
I mean, look, lets do some math. Bright throat is 4192 mag+ 279 mag regen.
Gear of 3 max mag+ 300 spell damage (comparing to julianos with 3 max mag stats) you end up trading 904 max mag and 279 regen for 300 spell damage.you can trade 278 spell damage to 270 regen through jewelry (infused enchant golden) , so lets assume that we need the sustain, and that we use it on the jewelry to change it. We got 904 max mag, 278 spell damage and 279 regen, vs 300 spell damage and 270 regen. 279 regen>270 regen, 904 max mag+ 279 spell damage = 365 spell damage> 300 spell damage.

PS: divines purple btb is cheaper than crafting 5 julianos body pieces.

PvE damage scales highest on spell critical, rather than max magicka & spell damage. That's where Bright Throat is lacking. I mean I don't have any build with less than 50% spell critical, and some are up to 72% (Mag NB). And I do PuG almost exclusively. If the healer doesn't have drain, I'll slot it, no big deal. Lacking Major Breach is also a 10-12% DPS loss, so it's not only about sustain.

If you read what i said, u would see it is still 68% crit. Also, if crit was really better than spell damage and max magicka, people would run mother's sorrow+mechanical acuity. But they dont. Because running too heavily invested into one stat, have diminishing returns. Be it max mag +spell damage, or crit.

PS, my suggested 2 sets are still more crit than your suggested two sets, so your argument that crit is better, is kinda mute.

MashmalloMan

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

@Spaniardkiin Here are 2 great pvp videos to watch.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2ETPPvTbtW0&t=550s

This mag sorc video goes really in depth. The player is fantastic and has been around for a very long time, they have many mag sorc guides if you're willing to explore for pve too. They have a lot of useful info and tons of different setups for whatever you need in pvp in the video I linked.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3HhBxEJhRO4

This stam sorc video is a build I've been using for 3-4 months, I've made my own tweaks like food/monster set/skills, but the core idea remains the same. It is very fun and an "off-meta" build that makes great use of magicka abilities like streak/dark deal to have amazing mobility, defense and sustain.

1v1 fights aren't the strong suit, but BG's are about working as a team anyway. It's extremely fun and avoids the "meta" that is stacking weapon damage with sets like Fury + New Moon, it also doesn't rely on Dizzy Swing as your spammable (don't like it) and instead focusses on spreading dots to proc Azureblight. I realize your new and it relies on getting a special 2 Handed weapon, but it's worth the investment. You would want to beat vet maelstrom arena for the Bow and Destruction staff since they're best in slot for pve anyway.

Do you know the addon yo coldown skills he use informe the seconds video?

Yes, very popular add-on that should be included in base game

Action Duration Reminder will place the duartion over the skills on your Hotbar.

Srendar is a good add-on for tracking buffs/debuffs anywhere on your screen, very customizable and solid for tracking more important buffs you never want to fall off. Over time I completely dropped those types of add-ons for Action Duration Reminder since it is very clean and simplistic on the UI. However, I still use Srendar for the channel/cast time bar, nice for Flurry/Dark Deal/Uppercut, etc.

Spaniardkiin

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

MashmalloMan wrote: »

@Spaniardkiin Here are 2 great pvp videos to watch.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2ETPPvTbtW0&t=550s

This mag sorc video goes really in depth. The player is fantastic and has been around for a very long time, they have many mag sorc guides if you're willing to explore for pve too. They have a lot of useful info and tons of different setups for whatever you need in pvp in the video I linked.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3HhBxEJhRO4

This stam sorc video is a build I've been using for 3-4 months, I've made my own tweaks like food/monster set/skills, but the core idea remains the same. It is very fun and an "off-meta" build that makes great use of magicka abilities like streak/dark deal to have amazing mobility, defense and sustain.

1v1 fights aren't the strong suit, but BG's are about working as a team anyway. It's extremely fun and avoids the "meta" that is stacking weapon damage with sets like Fury + New Moon, it also doesn't rely on Dizzy Swing as your spammable (don't like it) and instead focusses on spreading dots to proc Azureblight. I realize your new and it relies on getting a special 2 Handed weapon, but it's worth the investment. You would want to beat vet maelstrom arena for the Bow and Destruction staff since they're best in slot for pve anyway.

Do you know the addon yo coldown skills he use informe the seconds video?

Yes, very popular add-on that should be included in base game

Action Duration Reminder will place the duartion over the skills on your Hotbar.

Srendar is a good add-on for tracking buffs/debuffs anywhere on your screen, very customizable and solid for tracking more important buffs you never want to fall off. Over time I completely dropped those types of add-ons for Action Duration Reminder since it is very clean and simplistic on the UI. However, I still use Srendar for the channel/cast time bar, nice for Flurry/Dark Deal/Uppercut, etc.

Yes, i use srredar but this other addon simplify a lot to keep the back bar on jaja
Thanks!

TheRealCherokeee3

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

TheRealCherokeee3 wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

TheRealCherokeee3 wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

No, running resto back bar is not necessary in PvE. You lose too much DPS.

Ah, ok. I though It would be better resto in Dungeons solo to survive and both destro un PVP. Ok, thanks!!

Other way round! Double destro in PvE and aim for high crit and keep surge up constantly like others said. Usually more than enough to be tanky and stable. PvP is typically where you slot that resto or use Dark Conversion with a sword and board setup.

Why with the sword and what its a Board Setup??
Im really noob jajaja

Lol sorry my sword and board comment is a bit off topic into PvP and your primarily concerned with PvE. Follow these guys tips and focus on that and getting solid with rotation and you'll be fine

Im going yo start with Dungeons to learn, but my goal is PVP. If you could explain me toca learn i would really appreciate!

I came back to this reply late I think as many good players followed up well there. PvE and PvP are different beasts. I would say as you continue learning PvE, you could (if you haven't already) join a PvP guild and ask for some duels. Especially concerning PvP, often the best way to learn is have your butt handed to you often lol. And then learn how you died (recap) how to combat it, and what your play style is. Some are passive and others more aggressive. PvE is mostly about long steady consistent rotations and mechanics. PvP is often about fast flexible combat with burst damage setups. Since looking back it looks like people mostly helped get you set for PvE gear and skills...i'd suggest PvP setups. I think one mentioned stam sorc? That's a good way to go if your aggressive and like melee range in general. If you want to try for a mag sorc PvP setup; the general advice is start with Necropetance set, and then either Crafty Alfiq or Bright Throats Boast. You will aim for all impenetrable traits, tri stat glyphs on the large pieces and mag glyphs on the small ones. Slot the Matriarch (on both bars) for strong healing, and use either the Atronach Mundus or the Mage mundus. If you choose Bright Throat, use Spring Loaded Infusion. If you choose Alfiq, choose Bewitched Sugar Skulls. Both setups will give you a very solid magic pool. Consequently sorcs scale best with magic so you will have strong DPS and solid defense as your wards will also be strengthened by more magic. Typically you can use either Bloodspawn or Mighty Chudan for monster sets (head and shoulder). Since your new, Mighty Chudan might be easier to use for passive mitigation until you get better with your skills, at which time you can switch to Bloodspawn and slot Boundless. Set names, skills and the like can all be daunting when starting new. Remember the biggest focus is your character sheet: stats. Aim for solid stats. However you reach them, be it champ points, food, sets, skills, ect, stats are what matter. This means dont take suggestions as gospel. You can be flexible especially starting anew. Theres plenty more detail to be told but all this should at least get the ball rolling for you! Good luck in PvE which I suggest you start first to learn your class. Dip into PvP from time to time while doing PvE and get a good guild to train you!

Spaniardkiin

TheRealCherokeee3 wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

TheRealCherokeee3 wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

TheRealCherokeee3 wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Spaniardkiin wrote: »

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I focus on solo PvE and build for survival, sustain and damage - that order.

My magsorc runs Julianos, Necropotence and Slimecraw with two lightning staves.

Bar 1: Empowered Ward, Blockade, Lightning Flood, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Bar 2: Surge, Boundless Storm, EleDrain, Matriarch, Bound Aegis
Ult is Comet on both bars for the passives and decent damage.

Blue Savoury food, 5light/1med/1heavy

Buff up, lay down an AoE killing zone and heavy attack while dancing around to keep foes in the killing zone.

Simple gear, simple to play and perfectly effective for my objectives (soloing some alliance zone group dungeons and most alliance zone WBs). Adequate damage with superb survival and enough sustain to totally ignore magicka regen stats and focus on other areas like mag pool, spell crit, pen. Massive burst heal. Weaknesses are somewhat modest damage and being totally AoE focused.

What about Shipon Spirit instead of Elemental Drain??

No, running resto back bar is not necessary in PvE. You lose too much DPS.

Ah, ok. I though It would be better resto in Dungeons solo to survive and both destro un PVP. Ok, thanks!!

Other way round! Double destro in PvE and aim for high crit and keep surge up constantly like others said. Usually more than enough to be tanky and stable. PvP is typically where you slot that resto or use Dark Conversion with a sword and board setup.

Why with the sword and what its a Board Setup??
Im really noob jajaja

Lol sorry my sword and board comment is a bit off topic into PvP and your primarily concerned with PvE. Follow these guys tips and focus on that and getting solid with rotation and you'll be fine

Im going yo start with Dungeons to learn, but my goal is PVP. If you could explain me toca learn i would really appreciate!

I came back to this reply late I think as many good players followed up well there. PvE and PvP are different beasts. I would say as you continue learning PvE, you could (if you haven't already) join a PvP guild and ask for some duels. Especially concerning PvP, often the best way to learn is have your butt handed to you often lol. And then learn how you died (recap) how to combat it, and what your play style is. Some are passive and others more aggressive. PvE is mostly about long steady consistent rotations and mechanics. PvP is often about fast flexible combat with burst damage setups. Since looking back it looks like people mostly helped get you set for PvE gear and skills...i'd suggest PvP setups. I think one mentioned stam sorc? That's a good way to go if your aggressive and like melee range in general. If you want to try for a mag sorc PvP setup; the general advice is start with Necropetance set, and then either Crafty Alfiq or Bright Throats Boast. You will aim for all impenetrable traits, tri stat glyphs on the large pieces and mag glyphs on the small ones. Slot the Matriarch (on both bars) for strong healing, and use either the Atronach Mundus or the Mage mundus. If you choose Bright Throat, use Spring Loaded Infusion. If you choose Alfiq, choose Bewitched Sugar Skulls. Both setups will give you a very solid magic pool. Consequently sorcs scale best with magic so you will have strong DPS and solid defense as your wards will also be strengthened by more magic. Typically you can use either Bloodspawn or Mighty Chudan for monster sets (head and shoulder). Since your new, Mighty Chudan might be easier to use for passive mitigation until you get better with your skills, at which time you can switch to Bloodspawn and slot Boundless. Set names, skills and the like can all be daunting when starting new. Remember the biggest focus is your character sheet: stats. Aim for solid stats. However you reach them, be it champ points, food, sets, skills, ect, stats are what matter. This means dont take suggestions as gospel. You can be flexible especially starting anew. Theres plenty more detail to be told but all this should at least get the ball rolling for you! Good luck in PvE which I suggest you start first to learn your class. Dip into PvP from time to time while doing PvE and get a good guild to train you!

Wooow, thanks! Great info! This is great to start learning!
I will go yo Magicka sorc because i used to play PVE with tank or healer (always templar) so im really passive jaja I need to learn to be aggressive

Really, thanks a lot!!

Oreyn_Bearclaw

I could probably write 20 pages in response to your post, but I wont. Haha

First, PVP and PVE are completely different, what works in one really wont work for the other. I play a decent amount of sorc, in both settings.

Pets: I prefer a one pet build (twilight tormentor) for PVE DPS. I prefer a 2 pet Build (Matriarch and volatile Familiar) for actually trying to solo difficult PVE content. For Open world PVP in Cyro, I typically drop the pets all together, but for battlegrounds, i do like the twilight matriarch for the heal.

Gear: Lots of options at this point. Meta PVE gear is going to be some combo of trial sets depending on the fight. Easiest place to start is with Julianos (craftable) and mother's sorrow (can purchase or farm in Deshaan). For PVE, generally go with all divines, and a shadow mundus.

For PVP: Make all your gear impen, and run either the max magic or magic regen mundus. Then you need to typically pick a damage set and a sustain set. Sorcs are a bit of an interesting class, because you can sort of do both at the same time by simply stacking max magic. With no pet, crafty alfiq is a great place to start. With a pet, Necromancer is a good place to start. In BGs, I run both together. In Open world cyrodiil, I have had a lot of recent success mixing crafty alfiq and seducer (simply a sustain set). Sorcs are also in a great position to take advantage of pirate skeleton. The healing Debuff when it procs, doesnt hit sorcs nearly as hard as other classes because they dont heal, they shield as a general rule. I generally look to a monster set for defense rather than offense in PVP, so another great option here is simply bloodspawn. Hard to beat bloodspawn on almost any PVP build for any class.

Streamers: I would check out Liko on youtube if you really want to see a high end DPS rotation. Not the best place to start as a beginner, but it will give a good idea of what you should be working towards. My PVP build probably most closely resembles a build from Dotzgaming, but i definitively make some changes for my particular playstyle.

Skills and rotations: Way too many things to go into, but a few things to think about. For PVP, you get kills with burst. The idea is you are trying to soften targets by weaving a spam skill like force pulse, and then you are trying to get your curse, frags, and potentially an ultimate to all hit at the same time, preferably, while they are stunned. You defend by using shields and Line of sight. You manage resources with dark conversion. You get mobility from streak and or Boundless storm. Streak is also your best stun, and boundless gives you resist.

In PVE, it's about sustained damage. Generally speaking with a pet build, you center your rotation around Daedric Prey. Cast that skill every 6 casts, keep up DOTs, and otherwise, spam FP/Elemental weapon and cast your frag when it procs (never slow cast frags).

Spaniardkiin

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I could probably write 20 pages in response to your post, but I wont. Haha

First, PVP and PVE are completely different, what works in one really wont work for the other. I play a decent amount of sorc, in both settings.

Pets: I prefer a one pet build (twilight tormentor) for PVE DPS. I prefer a 2 pet Build (Matriarch and volatile Familiar) for actually trying to solo difficult PVE content. For Open world PVP in Cyro, I typically drop the pets all together, but for battlegrounds, i do like the twilight matriarch for the heal.

Gear: Lots of options at this point. Meta PVE gear is going to be some combo of trial sets depending on the fight. Easiest place to start is with Julianos (craftable) and mother's sorrow (can purchase or farm in Deshaan). For PVE, generally go with all divines, and a shadow mundus.

For PVP: Make all your gear impen, and run either the max magic or magic regen mundus. Then you need to typically pick a damage set and a sustain set. Sorcs are a bit of an interesting class, because you can sort of do both at the same time by simply stacking max magic. With no pet, crafty alfiq is a great place to start. With a pet, Necromancer is a good place to start. In BGs, I run both together. In Open world cyrodiil, I have had a lot of recent success mixing crafty alfiq and seducer (simply a sustain set). Sorcs are also in a great position to take advantage of pirate skeleton. The healing Debuff when it procs, doesnt hit sorcs nearly as hard as other classes because they dont heal, they shield as a general rule. I generally look to a monster set for defense rather than offense in PVP, so another great option here is simply bloodspawn. Hard to beat bloodspawn on almost any PVP build for any class.

Streamers: I would check out Liko on youtube if you really want to see a high end DPS rotation. Not the best place to start as a beginner, but it will give a good idea of what you should be working towards. My PVP build probably most closely resembles a build from Dotzgaming, but i definitively make some changes for my particular playstyle.

Skills and rotations: Way too many things to go into, but a few things to think about. For PVP, you get kills with burst. The idea is you are trying to soften targets by weaving a spam skill like force pulse, and then you are trying to get your curse, frags, and potentially an ultimate to all hit at the same time, preferably, while they are stunned. You defend by using shields and Line of sight. You manage resources with dark conversion. You get mobility from streak and or Boundless storm. Streak is also your best stun, and boundless gives you resist.

In PVE, it's about sustained damage. Generally speaking with a pet build, you center your rotation around Daedric Prey. Cast that skill every 6 casts, keep up DOTs, and otherwise, spam FP/Elemental weapon and cast your frag when it procs (never slow cast frags).

Is It possible to do BG, Maelstrom and Dungeons without a petición build? I dont really enjoy with pets :S

Thanks a lot for info of rotations and skills!!