Eso pvp tank troll build: "The immovable"

Daffen

Heres a build i released on youtube in the beggining of dragonhold that is not one of your average ''pvp tanks'' that you normally see with 50k health and killable by 2 people. No. This one has 30k health without trying to get health and 30k stamina able to tank not just only 2, not 3, or 4 or 5 or 10. This build is able to tank 15-20 people depending on how experienced they are.

https://youtu.be/Y4nKaNxWHHI

This build is built around permablocking and healing, you want as much block cost reduction as possible hence full sturdy with infused block cost reduction glyphs. Even with the 50% reduced healing from cyrodiil i have 115.2% healing total (taken from build editor link in description) combinding that with my 95% damage mitigation + another 35% block mitigation not calculated from heavy armor skill is what makes this build so hard to kill.

You may hate me for playing this type of build or for releasing this but i want people to know that most people havent seen a REAL tank in pvp yet.

DJfriede

So basically roleplay a punching bag until someone finally decides to stun you or your stamina runs out? Hmm, I guess it's interesting to see what builds are possible, the "play" style just doesn't appeal to me. Then again, I don't have to like everything.

Malmai

So you releasing a build which you want to get nerfed? Its nice bait troll build.

Daffen

Malmai wrote: »

So you releasing a build which you want to get nerfed? Its nice bait troll build.

Well the thing is, i dont play that build that much anymore it was really fun and i dont care if it gets nerfed so other people might as well enjoy it as well.

Regarding that punching bag roleplaying, its pretty accurate but the whole point of playing is the adrenaline of trying to survive as many players as possible. If you watched the build video you would have realised i have 100% uptime on cc immunity and once i use spell wall i am able to heavy attack back to 100% stamina making sustain not a problem.

JumpmanLane

Daffen wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

So you releasing a build which you want to get nerfed? Its nice bait troll build.

Well the thing is, i dont play that build that much anymore it was really fun and i dont care if it gets nerfed so other people might as well enjoy it as well.

Regarding that punching bag roleplaying, its pretty accurate but the whole point of playing is the adrenaline of trying to survive as many players as possible. If you watched the build video you would have realised i have 100% uptime on cc immunity and once i use spell wall i am able to heavy attack back to 100% stamina making sustain not a problem.

I didn’t watch the video; but, how many people did you kill? I know dying in this game is frowned upon and all; but, what could be fun about not dying. It’s not trolling because nobody cares if they can’t kill you if you can’t kill them.

bmnoble

So you don't do anything other than be attacked and dedicate all your resources to healing or damage mitigation?

Since you mostly in melee range I would toy with Thurvokun for the minor main on all the attackers.

Not sure if Earthgore would be much use due to the long cool down and the sheer number of attackers maybe Scourge Harvester or Nightflame for the extra healing.


That said any smart group will catch on quick/eventually and use a meat bag catapult against you while using skills that defile you and attacks that ignore block/stun or fear you to try and finish you off. Or just use you to build their ultimate.


Now if you made a tanky healer that would earn you a lot more hate than simply making yourself hard to kill.

OlumoGarbag

https://youtu.be/qOB69zqWunk
This build is still better

Daffen

It is possible to change out sets and skills for example what i sometimes do i run ironblood with hist sap and use hardened armor instead of immovable that way i have some mobility to get out of aoe but then i lose the 100% cc immunity from immovable.

There is also not many attacks that can go through block other than dots even my friend on his pve magdk with all buffs from iron target and zaan was only able to bring me down to 70% health at most. And that was when i stood in aoe with my back turned away so he could get minor berserk.

Ratzkifal

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Daffen wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

So you releasing a build which you want to get nerfed? Its nice bait troll build.

Well the thing is, i dont play that build that much anymore it was really fun and i dont care if it gets nerfed so other people might as well enjoy it as well.

Regarding that punching bag roleplaying, its pretty accurate but the whole point of playing is the adrenaline of trying to survive as many players as possible. If you watched the build video you would have realised i have 100% uptime on cc immunity and once i use spell wall i am able to heavy attack back to 100% stamina making sustain not a problem.

I didn’t watch the video; but, how many people did you kill? I know dying in this game is frowned upon and all; but, what could be fun about not dying. It’s not trolling because nobody cares if they can’t kill you if you can’t kill them.

Unless you are standing on a capture point or if you would start reviving people as soon as they start ignoring you, forcing them to at least keep you busy...

Daffen

You can revive people even if there are 10 guys attacking you, you just have to use immovable skill and spell well then pray to god they dont know how to bash. Would only reccomend if you have alot of stamina untill next ultimate

The_Old_Goat

JumpmanLane wrote: »

Daffen wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

So you releasing a build which you want to get nerfed? Its nice bait troll build.

Well the thing is, i dont play that build that much anymore it was really fun and i dont care if it gets nerfed so other people might as well enjoy it as well.

Regarding that punching bag roleplaying, its pretty accurate but the whole point of playing is the adrenaline of trying to survive as many players as possible. If you watched the build video you would have realised i have 100% uptime on cc immunity and once i use spell wall i am able to heavy attack back to 100% stamina making sustain not a problem.

I didn’t watch the video; but, how many people did you kill? I know dying in this game is frowned upon and all; but, what could be fun about not dying. It’s not trolling because nobody cares if they can’t kill you if you can’t kill them.

Sometimes pvp isn't just about killing. If you can distract or prevent a group from taking an objective allowing your team the time they need to recover can be just as effective.

remilafo

Wow these are incredible. I don't pvp in eso but after seeing these i am glad i don't.

Runefang

It’s nothing more than a selfish PvE tank build in PvP. Very powerful in certain BG scenarios and useful when leading the charge in Cyrodiil.

Mayrael

Oh man... Those builds are... Iritating, you can completely ignore them - literally yesterday I've met 2 of that kind followed by third one mixed with a bit of damage. First 2 ignored, 3rd killed. One of them who was extremely iritating made a mistake and went inside a house in Vlastarus, well he had to swap campaigns to exit it, shadow image made shure he will be in combat all the time and not able to use doors again. When you troll players get ready to be trolled.

xshatox

It is usefull when in a keep and waiting for reinforcement, most pvp player when they see enemy attacked blindly even it’s just distraction. Can also be used to kite sieging enemy to oil or siege firing area and encourage pug to come down instead of standing at wall.

drkfrontiers

PvPers complains about ZOS tanking meta in PvP.

Pvper promotes tanking meta.

Enough said.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

An intelligent player would realize that Tank builds cannot really do any damage and the damage they can do is usually the result of a reflected attack, you may not beable to kill them but they cannot really kill you either, it is a time-waster build that can easily be ignored but some players seem to stupid to realize that so do exactly what the tank intends them to do and that is draw their attention.

When a build like this shows up the best bet is to just ignore them, it is not like they really pose much of a threat, they are like a Brick-Wall, completely harmless but if you hit it you will probably end up hurting yourself.

Artorias24

drkfrontiers wrote: »

PvPers complains about ZOS tanking meta in PvP.

Pvper promotes tanking meta.

Enough said.

I think you get confused about what this "Tank Meta" means. They complain about builds that are quite tanky and still have decent Damage.

The tank shown in this video cant kill anything and is purely made for tanking.

drkfrontiers

Artorias24 wrote: »

drkfrontiers wrote: »

PvPers complains about ZOS tanking meta in PvP.

Pvper promotes tanking meta.

Enough said.

I think you get confused about what this "Tank Meta" means. They complain about builds that are quite tanky and still have decent Damage.

The tank shown in this video cant kill anything and is purely made for tanking.

Thanks for the correction -

Ri_Khan

Play this build if you want everyone to think you're a troll.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Play this build if you want everyone to think you're a troll.

It would have it's uses I guess, If you want to collect Tel Var stones without risk of being killed for example, it is not like 1, 2 or even 3 players will beable to kill you, hopefully they will be smart enough to realize they cannot kill you and just give up.

Artorias24

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Play this build if you want everyone to think you're a troll.

It would have it's uses I guess, If you want to collect Tel Var stones without risk of being killed for example, it is not like 1, 2 or even 3 players will beable to kill you, hopefully they will be smart enough to realize they cannot kill you and just give up.

It May shock you but a lot of ppl dont give up killing you. Look Here how 2 players distracted a whole zerg for quite some time. Those players couldnt help Attack or defend a keep. They just brainless attacked those troll tanks. They even put up siege instead of just ignoring them.

https://youtu.be/FlLxSYdLMT8

Reverb

Troll tanks are effective. They could be ignored without consequence, but scores of pugs take the bait. It’s infuriating to see 20 or more players in your faction lose a fight because they got tunnel vision for the immovable tank and lost sight of the objective. Like moths to a flame people pile on the tanky opponent and don’t care (or even realize) that the flags are flipping. Or that a Zerg is coming from behind. Or that their gate keeps are under attack.

It’s a play style that has a place in Cyrodiil, just like bombers, gankers, ball groups, and siege monkeys.

xshatox

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

An intelligent player would realize that Tank builds cannot really do any damage and the damage they can do is usually the result of a reflected attack, you may not beable to kill them but they cannot really kill you either, it is a time-waster build that can easily be ignored but some players seem to stupid to realize that so do exactly what the tank intends them to do and that is draw their attention.

When a build like this shows up the best bet is to just ignore them, it is not like they really pose much of a threat, they are like a Brick-Wall, completely harmless but if you hit it you will probably end up hurting yourself.

Some very tanky stamnecro with torvukuun and the bone goliath ulti can be deadly. That’s why stamnecro currently is the best stam class.

relentless_turnip

Just my opinion, but it is all too easy to build something that can't be killed in this game.
If I can't kill someone, I know they can't kill me... I might hang around to generate some ultimate off of the punch bag build and then go and kill your friends

Master_Kas

Lol awsome.

I've used a almost identical build (but with Cyro crest+battalion) and regular tripots.

Never thought of using Hist sap and hindrance potions tho, will have to try when the servers are back up.

Edit: Want to try it on a necro tank aswell. You won't bave battleroar but you have the health-absorbing goliath transformation ^^

WilliamESO

This build is useless

TX12001rwb17_ESO

xshatox wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

An intelligent player would realize that Tank builds cannot really do any damage and the damage they can do is usually the result of a reflected attack, you may not beable to kill them but they cannot really kill you either, it is a time-waster build that can easily be ignored but some players seem to stupid to realize that so do exactly what the tank intends them to do and that is draw their attention.

When a build like this shows up the best bet is to just ignore them, it is not like they really pose much of a threat, they are like a Brick-Wall, completely harmless but if you hit it you will probably end up hurting yourself.

Some very tanky stamnecro with torvukuun and the bone goliath ulti can be deadly. That’s why stamnecro currently is the best stam class.

Those builds are health based and use abilities which scale off of health, we are talking about a DK though.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Artorias24 wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Ri_Khan wrote: »

Play this build if you want everyone to think you're a troll.

It would have it's uses I guess, If you want to collect Tel Var stones without risk of being killed for example, it is not like 1, 2 or even 3 players will beable to kill you, hopefully they will be smart enough to realize they cannot kill you and just give up.

It May shock you but a lot of ppl dont give up killing you. Look Here how 2 players distracted a whole zerg for quite some time. Those players couldnt help Attack or defend a keep. They just brainless attacked those troll tanks. They even put up siege instead of just ignoring them.

https://youtu.be/FlLxSYdLMT8

Then that just goes to show that a lot of players are simply not smart, ask yourself what else they could of done rather then attacking someone who lacks the DPS to fight back but at the same time is nigh-unkillable? maybe take a resource or five? not only would that of helped their alliance more but they would of gained AP as well.

Instead they fell for the very thing a Tank is designed for and that is to "Taunt" the enemy and have them attack them so they don't attack their allies, anyone who falls for that is an absolute idiot.

Mayrael

Master_Kas wrote: »

Lol awsome.

I've used a almost identical build (but with Cyro crest+battalion) and regular tripots.

Never thought of using Hist sap and hindrance potions tho, will have to try when the servers are back up.

Edit: Want to try it on a necro tank aswell. You won't bave battleroar but you have the health-absorbing goliath transformation ^^

I used use hist sap and hindrance potions in the past, because... You can make hindrance, restore health, lingering health potion Before lingering nerf it was over 2k free HPS with 100% uptime
Now it's still potent but not as much

Tank builds like this have one practical usage. BG capture games (relic, chaos ball, etc.). Maybe this one in particular is not the best example as it would be good to move a bit, but you know what I mean - in BGS the only game type that requires kills to win is death match, rest is optimal for tank/healer teams.

Daffen

Mayrael wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Lol awsome.

I've used a almost identical build (but with Cyro crest+battalion) and regular tripots.

Never thought of using Hist sap and hindrance potions tho, will have to try when the servers are back up.

Edit: Want to try it on a necro tank aswell. You won't bave battleroar but you have the health-absorbing goliath transformation ^^

I used use hist sap and hindrance potions in the past, because... You can make hindrance, restore health, lingering health potion Before lingering nerf it was over 2k free HPS with 100% uptime
Now it's still potent but not as much

Tank builds like this have one practical usage. BG capture games (relic, chaos ball, etc.). Maybe this one in particular is not the best example as it would be good to move a bit, but you know what I mean - in BGS the only game type that requires kills to win is death match, rest is optimal for tank/healer teams.

Hist sap with hindrance pots and lingering health used to be good but a new change to the set that is not mentioned is that immovable procs hist sap, making it possible to make use of the new armor pots. Also if i want to be able to move, which might be better in some cases i can change out battalion defender with ironblood and immovable skill with hardened armor. It all depends on the situation really. Some builds work better than other in some cases but not in all scenarios.