Who is the Leecher?

Kadoin

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If there is a problem, unlike locked Cyrodiil campaigns you can go on another char and another alliance and fix it by force

That always solves these kind of questions!

Ryath_Waylander

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There is no such thing as a leecher. It is a concept that exists solely in the minds of those children, who believed that all the toys in the play school sandbox belonged to them alone. They had no responsible adults in their lives to disabuse them of this notion.

Kombinator

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Leecher in the classic view is the guy who goes in, afks, and get the minimum reward. For example going into a battleground, then just stand around doing nothing, but jump in every minute to avoid anti-afk detection, and get the reward for being on random battleground.

Or when people go to anchors, and then just stand around while the group does it. I saw it during my jewelcrafting anchor farm a lot of people who just stood at the anchor, and nothing.

Doesn't work in dungeons though, because you get vote-kicked for it.

Zer0_CooL

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Usualy people only turn the flag when they see the boss is up. So your aledged contribuion of turning all the flags is questionable. Usualy i pull the boss to the flag to turn it while im killing the boss. If the flag is already turned i pull him in a corner or a building where hopefully no one finds me.
I hate it when i got the boss on low HP and someone comes around the corner and "steals" my stones. Yet its part of the game and i think its pointless to argue about.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. Just take your stones and go on.

Chrlynsch

The PvP player that worked for hours to make it possible for others to farm

Imperial City etiquette of the Leeching treaty of 2015 states.

Artical 3 (Finders Keepers)
"Jumping on a district boss under 50% health that is being fought by a solo player is strictly prohibited unless previously deemed acceptable by the soloing player.

Artical 7a
Proper protical would be to move to the next district to hide and solo your own boss, if previous player jumps in on your boss than Article 3 is then Void for all future interactions with aforementioned player.

Artical 8
If you witness an enemy player attempt to kill the farming player, and aid the player in killing the enemy, Article 3 is then Void.

Zer0_CooL

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Chrlynsch wrote: »

Imperial City etiquette of the Leeching treaty of 2015 states.

Artical 3 (Finders Keepers)
"Jumping on a district boss under 50% health that is being fought by a solo player is strictly prohibited unless previously deemed acceptable by the soloing player.

That was suposedly written in 2015 when it was much harder to solo a boss. While today it is significantly easyer and small groups of 3 players have them down in less than a minute, the respawn timer remain the same.

So if you are alone while there is one or two groups on the run (3+ player), you will not want to leave a boss out just because there is already an other player on it. Otherwise you would ride through the city for 20 minutes just to find a boss and most likely still have to share the stones.

rpa

Assuming Telvar works like described (I don't IC) if there is anyone in fault it's the game designer punishing people for co-operating.

ZeroXFF

The PvP player that worked for hours to make it possible for others to farm

PvPers are always the leechers in IC, because the only means of actually generating Tel Var is through PvE. If you didn't get yours through PvE, you are leeching.

dazee

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There is no leecher if you happened to come in when a boss was low health, what a ridiculous notion.

JanTanhide

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It's a game. No one is a Leecher. Have fun and ignore those that harass you.

Vevvev

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I remember someone calling groups in the IC something not very appropriate and specifically attacked me over it when I wasn't even in a group lol. Apparently after capping the point, fighting off an EP zerg, and defeating that one ganking AD, attacking the boss was a big no no in his eyes.

As the first response to OP goes the IC is first come first serve and you cannot control the actions of other players. There is even PVP among your own faction and the best way to handle it is to accept this fact and find ways around it instead of yelling at the people playing the game. Instead if you wanna complain go talk to the devs that created the rules and ask them to change them. For all you know they might actually listen... or not.

Karmanorway

ZeroXFF wrote: »

PvPers are always the leechers in IC, because the only means of actually generating Tel Var is through PvE. If you didn't get yours through PvE, you are leeching.

I see, but u know the less flags we have the less telvar you earn, and If you are farming bosses and try to turn the flags chances are you will get killed by enemy players, and they steal your telvar because there was no players to drive them out.. 😉

Donny_Vito

It works both ways for me....

I really do enjoy leeching some boss kills from the PvE guys wearing Imperial Physique that run around pulling bosses into buildings at the far edges of the zone so they can solo them. But when I'm trying to grind Tel Var, I find myself doing the same thing. So hypocritical of me...

ValueDrift

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No one has a monopoly on overland resources, that includes bosses in Imperial City.

jhnartb14_ESO

Tell them Welcome to Imperial City.

xxthir13enxx

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This is Leecher
https://youtu.be/zc9jjyO63t4

Sephyr

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There's no option for the boss because it's not supposed to be collecting Tel Var, it's supposed to be killing players.

Vicinia

The Pve player that just came in 3 hours later right after all the flags was taken

Voted incorrectly. If you're in IC, you're liable to get ganked and your telvar to be split. I'll side with the PvPer on this. Should have told him thanks for doing the heavy lifting 😂

It be like that sometimes.

NordSwordnBoard

I am the "Leecher", but the proper Medieval term we prefer is "Barber" (thank you very much). After all, we certainly aren't barbarians.

Alright, a few are secret lumberjacks... but only a few!

max_only

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One or twice is fine, following them around and tagging all their mobs might make someone understandably cheeved. Last time I was in IC for the quest I helped kill some bosses, only later did I learn that this was “bad form”. I’m doing the quest, if you kite the boss over to where I’m saving priests or whatever I’m going to throw skills at it. *shrug*
It’s an open map, mobs don’t belong to anyone.

Linaleah

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Hanokihs wrote: »

It's kind of a d-bag move to come in and "help" with bosses that are already practically dead, no matter where in the game you are. It always comes off as cheap and lazy.

Of course, I'm not saying you aren't entitled to do as you like. Just that, you know, it's a contributing factor to why trying to go into Imperial City and do anything productive just isn't worth it to so many players.

this kind of thinking is so weird to me.

like... if you stand around and wait for the boss to be almost dead before joining in, i can see that. but if you just come in and see the boss dying - you are supposed to stand away politely and wait now or something? you are not allowed to join in anymore? its bizarre, this ownership people try to take of PUBLIC mobs...

IndianaJames7

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You only own telvar once it’s in the bank... even after you kill a boss and take it, it’s still up for grabs to other alliances.

doomette

This sort of thing makes me hope I interpreted a situation I was in a few days ago correctly. I was doing the Arena District daily for my last siegemaster costume piece when another AD player started fighting the district boss there (can’t think of the name, my brain keeps saying Krogan but obviously that’s not right). I go about my business, when the other player runs closer to me, jumps around to (I think) get my attention and then holds block while the boss attacks (not during an attack that needs to be blocked either). In PVE land that usually means someone is holding back so another player can get hits in too for loot/credit. After a few seconds of waffling, I went in and helped kill the boss. Then we both went about our business. I sure hope I interpreted that correctly because being considerate is more important to me than the 1500 or so TV.

Hanokihs

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Linaleah wrote: »

Hanokihs wrote: »

It's kind of a d-bag move to come in and "help" with bosses that are already practically dead, no matter where in the game you are. It always comes off as cheap and lazy.

Of course, I'm not saying you aren't entitled to do as you like. Just that, you know, it's a contributing factor to why trying to go into Imperial City and do anything productive just isn't worth it to so many players.

this kind of thinking is so weird to me.

like... if you stand around and wait for the boss to be almost dead before joining in, i can see that. but if you just come in and see the boss dying - you are supposed to stand away politely and wait now or something? you are not allowed to join in anymore? its bizarre, this ownership people try to take of PUBLIC mobs...

I just move on to a different area. It's not really a matter of ownership, it's more about etiquette. Especially if the person obviously wants to be left alone, since anyone there is there by "force" because there are no solo or peaceful alternatives to Cyrodiil/IC content. I mean, I get it - it's an MMO; there are other people around. There are other people around in real life, too, but that doesn't mean everyone is compelled to get in each others' way all the time.

Royaji

That's why when you farm Tel Var you go in with two (or three) people on two different factions. You know, to clear occasional "good samaritans" from your own faction every now and then.

Mr_Walker

Hanokihs wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Hanokihs wrote: »

It's kind of a d-bag move to come in and "help" with bosses that are already practically dead, no matter where in the game you are. It always comes off as cheap and lazy.

Of course, I'm not saying you aren't entitled to do as you like. Just that, you know, it's a contributing factor to why trying to go into Imperial City and do anything productive just isn't worth it to so many players.

this kind of thinking is so weird to me.

like... if you stand around and wait for the boss to be almost dead before joining in, i can see that. but if you just come in and see the boss dying - you are supposed to stand away politely and wait now or something? you are not allowed to join in anymore? its bizarre, this ownership people try to take of PUBLIC mobs...

I just move on to a different area. It's not really a matter of ownership, it's more about etiquette. Especially if the person obviously wants to be left alone, since anyone there is there by "force" because there are no solo or peaceful alternatives to Cyrodiil/IC content. I mean, I get it - it's an MMO; there are other people around. There are other people around in real life, too, but that doesn't mean everyone is compelled to get in each others' way all the time.

But I'm a "hard man". A reaver and a raider. So everything is fine and proper when I jump in right at the death.

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SkysOutThizeOut

If it took you hours to turn it a color... that means you are either really really bad because you couldn’t kill npcs or the players that were there got bored and left. Or maybe you are good, but the pvp was that thick... but if it was that thick you were good they’d have left after 10-30 minutes easy. PvPers go to ic to take tv from the players and don’t care if they’re called a leech by a pver.

PizzaCat82

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Telvar is ridiculously easy to farm and people crying about leechers are wasting their time.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

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PizzaCat82 wrote: »

Telvar is ridiculously easy to farm and people crying about leechers are wasting their time.

That depends on how many you want to farm, it is easy to farm a few thousand without being killed but tens of thousands of stones takes a lot longer, many players are liable to be killed before they reach that number.