Switching to pc - advice :)

brear_x

Hi I’m currently on PS4 but will be looking to switching to pc. I don’t know too much about pc’s so am looking for some guidance on a system I am looking at.

Here are the specifications;

Intel® Core™ Processor i5-9600KF
8GB DDR4 2400mhz Memory
MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 6GB Video Card
MSI Z390-A PRO MB
250GB WD Blue SN550 M.2 SATA SSD
2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA3 HDD
Cooler Master CPU Cooler

I will be ok upgrading if needed as I have a friend that works in the industry.

My questions are;

- will this run eso
- If so will I face any problems
- What would you change (only If really necessary)
- Is anything overkill that I can reduce (do without)

I’m not too bothered about playing in ultra settings but I would like good stability and frames in trials and pvp

My internet will be fine for this as I’m on hyperoptic which is stable, wired and has a 500mbps download 150mbps upload

Thank you in advance!

daim

Should be fine running max in 1080p at least, depending what resolution you'll use.
If I were you and wouldn't want to spend a lot I would get 2 of those DRAM sticks though and a larger M2

Thokri

I would get more (and with higher frequency) memory and get cheaper and better amd cpu

Linaleah

those settings are very similar to PC my SO uses. it runs ESO smoothly without any issues on high settings. but .. the kind of monitor you use, can also affect performance, because the higher your monitor's resolution, the more it will ask for out of your pc.

more ram wouldn't hurt.

VaxtinTheWolf

That's going to be fine. Before I started upgrading my system in the past few months to play Monster Hunter World at a better quality and record games at 1080p60 without the system struggling and to render a 10 minute video before in a reasonable amount of time, I had entry-mid range hardware in 2016 and ESO still managed 40-85 FPS with all the quality options set. I've never experienced Trials though.

Previous system for reference:
i5-6600 + B150 Motherboard
8 GB Memory @ 2133 MHz
GTX 960 4G - OC to 1500 core
An SSD for the OS, and a 1TB 7200 RPM HDD for everything else.

Nestor

Either a larger M.2. Expensive.

Or

Add in a TB SSD for your games.

Use the Platter Drive for media, file, and document storage only.

brear_x

Thank you very much for the replies and advice everyone!

Taking on board, what about this?

Intel® Core™ Processor i5-9400F
16GB DDR4 2400mhz Memory
MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 SUPER 6GB Video Card
Cyberpower B360M Xtreme AC M-ATX Motherboard
512GB Intel 660p M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD
2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA3 HDD
INTEL CPU Cooler

Nestor

M.2 drives are best OS and any programs you will install and not change like say Office or Photoshop etc.

Games are best installed on an SSD. Well, OK, an M.2 would be optimal, but a TB M.2 is still pricey, at least the last time i checked a few months ago. You want a TB as each game is 100GB on averages, and most installers are frustratingly demanding double the install size for free space before they install. So, a TB will net you 8 of the newer games.

So, ditch the Barracuda, get as big an SSD drive as you can.

VaxtinTheWolf

Are you looking at prebuilts? I ask because of the motherboard brand. Cyberpower is one of those companies that do that, and there are a few others who allow you to select the parts you want (if it's listed in their online configurator) and they build it for you, for an extra fee. I also would recommend another CPU cooler over intel's stock offering.

Hardware selection really depends on what you want to do with your system, and if you are trying to budget, you might want to consider ordering all the parts individually and building it yourself, if you are brave enough to do so. For instance, there are pretty great deals on AMD CPU's at the moment, and if you do more than specifically playing games on your system, more cores will do you good for a usually more appealing price compared to intel. Higher speed RAM also really benefits the AMD CPU. The GPU is fine, if that's the performance you're after. the storage also seems like it'd be fine. You don't need an NVME for gaming per say, but that particular one is cheap enough where it isn't a bad choice. It's not the best NVME, but it's affordable if that's what you want.

I've put my own PC together, and upgraded it, and built one for my mother. I loosely follow PC hardware technology so if you have more questions I may be able to provide some more insight.

ghastley

If you have both SSD and HDD, then re-direct the "Users" folder off the SSD onto the HDD, so that screenshots etc. don't waste space on the faster drive.

brear_x

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

Are you looking at prebuilts? I ask because of the motherboard brand. Cyberpower is one of those companies that do that, and there are a few others who allow you to select the parts you want (if it's listed in their online configurator) and they build it for you, for an extra fee. I also would recommend another CPU cooler over intel's stock offering.

Hardware selection really depends on what you want to do with your system, and if you are trying to budget, you might want to consider ordering all the parts individually and building it yourself, if you are brave enough to do so. For instance, there are pretty great deals on AMD CPU's at the moment, and if you do more than specifically playing games on your system, more cores will do you good for a usually more appealing price compared to intel. Higher speed RAM also really benefits the AMD CPU. The GPU is fine, if that's the performance you're after. the storage also seems like it'd be fine. You don't need an NVME for gaming per say, but that particular one is cheap enough where it isn't a bad choice. It's not the best NVME, but it's affordable if that's what you want.

I've put my own PC together, and upgraded it, and built one for my mother. I loosely follow PC hardware technology so if you have more questions I may be able to provide some more insight.

Thank you guys again.

Yes it’s a prebuilt and it would be from cyber power. I can change pretty much anything in the configuration.

I would really literally only be playing eso as I have a laptop to do work, browse etc. There is a new mmorpg in may that I want to try as well called new world, so other than those two that’s it, no streaming or videos or anything.

I wouldn’t feel comfortable building a pc at the moment but I’m always watching tutorials and reading forums etc.

I would feel comfortable upgrading certain components in a prebuilt pc if I needed to, but like you already know with cyber power you can pick and choose what you want.

So on the basis it will just be eso and one other game potentially in the future, what do you think?

JumpmanLane

I’d get more ram.

VaxtinTheWolf

I don't know the performance of that specific CPU at the moment, nor how ram speed affects it (it may not matter as much as the Ryzen platform). I'll just mention my recommendations in a broad sense.

- I'd look for a 6 core CPU these days with Hyperhtreading/SMT for general gaming.
- 8GB minimum, but I would still suggest 16 GB of 3000-3200Mhz ram for multitasking purposes, however ram speed may not be as important for Intel systems.
- Since it's a prebuilt, I can't really comment on the motherboard
- I currently use a GTX 1660 Super and play in 1080p resolution. So far, it's performance is a little more than I expected for paying $250 for mine. It should be also fine for ESO with 1440p gameplay. (I can try this for myself when my new monitor arrives in a few days)
- Ideally, I recommend an SSD of any kind with a minimum of 240GB for the Operating system. You said you'd only really use the system for 2 games, so a 1TB HDD might be enough for you. Even a 500GB SSD could be an option if you really would only use it for two games. An SSD is shown to have a mild improvement in load times for many games.
- The intel stock cooler might get a little loud, and CPU temps might hover in the 80 degree range when under load, so I would still consider an after market air cooler around $30-$50 in the future if it becomes annoying to you, which would also give you cooler temps.

RD065

Games will be fine on a 7200rpm hard drive. All my games run on one. Too much wasted space for an SSD.

Vonbone

There is a very good site I found that allows you to compare components of your PC. Just google userbenchmark. You can look at CPUs, GPUs and most anything else you wish to see. It helped a lot when I upgraded my PC. And me personally I'd upgrade to a 1 tb m.2. I had a 250 gb ssd and couldn't put anything on it because of lack space. As far as ram I'd go with no less that 16gb of ram. 3000mhz is about the best bang for your buck right now I believe. I had 8 gb of ram when I started playing and it wasn't enough.

daim

RD065 wrote: »

Games will be fine on a 7200rpm hard drive. All my games run on one. Too much wasted space for an SSD.

I agree. But there are some specific games that benefit a lot from SSD though.

huntgod_ESO

brear_x wrote: »

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

Are you looking at prebuilts? I ask because of the motherboard brand. Cyberpower is one of those companies that do that, and there are a few others who allow you to select the parts you want (if it's listed in their online configurator) and they build it for you, for an extra fee. I also would recommend another CPU cooler over intel's stock offering.

Hardware selection really depends on what you want to do with your system, and if you are trying to budget, you might want to consider ordering all the parts individually and building it yourself, if you are brave enough to do so. For instance, there are pretty great deals on AMD CPU's at the moment, and if you do more than specifically playing games on your system, more cores will do you good for a usually more appealing price compared to intel. Higher speed RAM also really benefits the AMD CPU. The GPU is fine, if that's the performance you're after. the storage also seems like it'd be fine. You don't need an NVME for gaming per say, but that particular one is cheap enough where it isn't a bad choice. It's not the best NVME, but it's affordable if that's what you want.

I've put my own PC together, and upgraded it, and built one for my mother. I loosely follow PC hardware technology so if you have more questions I may be able to provide some more insight.

Thank you guys again.

Yes it’s a prebuilt and it would be from cyber power. I can change pretty much anything in the configuration.

I would really literally only be playing eso as I have a laptop to do work, browse etc. There is a new mmorpg in may that I want to try as well called new world, so other than those two that’s it, no streaming or videos or anything.

I wouldn’t feel comfortable building a pc at the moment but I’m always watching tutorials and reading forums etc.

I would feel comfortable upgrading certain components in a prebuilt pc if I needed to, but like you already know with cyber power you can pick and choose what you want.

So on the basis it will just be eso and one other game potentially in the future, what do you think?

I have a bunch of buddies playing New World beta and they do not have positive things to say. They think it has a lot of promise but are all saying you should give it 6 months of release to develop.

brear_x

huntgod_ESO wrote: »

brear_x wrote: »

VaxtinTheWolf wrote: »

Are you looking at prebuilts? I ask because of the motherboard brand. Cyberpower is one of those companies that do that, and there are a few others who allow you to select the parts you want (if it's listed in their online configurator) and they build it for you, for an extra fee. I also would recommend another CPU cooler over intel's stock offering.

Hardware selection really depends on what you want to do with your system, and if you are trying to budget, you might want to consider ordering all the parts individually and building it yourself, if you are brave enough to do so. For instance, there are pretty great deals on AMD CPU's at the moment, and if you do more than specifically playing games on your system, more cores will do you good for a usually more appealing price compared to intel. Higher speed RAM also really benefits the AMD CPU. The GPU is fine, if that's the performance you're after. the storage also seems like it'd be fine. You don't need an NVME for gaming per say, but that particular one is cheap enough where it isn't a bad choice. It's not the best NVME, but it's affordable if that's what you want.

I've put my own PC together, and upgraded it, and built one for my mother. I loosely follow PC hardware technology so if you have more questions I may be able to provide some more insight.

Thank you guys again.

Yes it’s a prebuilt and it would be from cyber power. I can change pretty much anything in the configuration.

I would really literally only be playing eso as I have a laptop to do work, browse etc. There is a new mmorpg in may that I want to try as well called new world, so other than those two that’s it, no streaming or videos or anything.

I wouldn’t feel comfortable building a pc at the moment but I’m always watching tutorials and reading forums etc.

I would feel comfortable upgrading certain components in a prebuilt pc if I needed to, but like you already know with cyber power you can pick and choose what you want.

So on the basis it will just be eso and one other game potentially in the future, what do you think?

I have a bunch of buddies playing New World beta and they do not have positive things to say. They think it has a lot of promise but are all saying you should give it 6 months of release to develop.

Thanks for the heads up! Will give it a try on release but yes sometimes it’s best to let it settle first

Curious_Death

brear_x wrote: »

Hi I’m currently on PS4 but will be looking to switching to pc. I don’t know too much about pc’s so am looking for some guidance on a system I am looking at.

Here are the specifications;

Intel® Core™ Processor i5-9600KF
8GB DDR4 2400mhz Memory
MSI GeForce® GTX 1660 6GB Video Card
MSI Z390-A PRO MB
250GB WD Blue SN550 M.2 SATA SSD
2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA3 HDD
Cooler Master CPU Cooler

I will be ok upgrading if needed as I have a friend that works in the industry.

My questions are;

- will this run eso
- If so will I face any problems
- What would you change (only If really necessary)
- Is anything overkill that I can reduce (do without)

I’m not too bothered about playing in ultra settings but I would like good stability and frames in trials and pvp

My internet will be fine for this as I’m on hyperoptic which is stable, wired and has a 500mbps download 150mbps upload

Thank you in advance!

dont play sober.

Cundu_Ertur

See what an AMD Ryzen would cost you, esp the 6 core one. The Ryzen line up of CPU's is actually pretty good, and tend to deliver more processing at a lower cost. The stock cooler runs just fine.

edit to add: don't forget to order your silver jumpsuit.

Nemesis7884

SIR, prepare to have yout mind blown by the PC EXPERIENCE

fiender66

@brear_x

I use more often mac, but also play on a PC once in a while (MSI with i7, maybe older that your CPU, other specs about the same). Good performance for PVE with HDMI to a 4k Samsung screen (nothing fancy, $400). Dunno for PVP, which I do not play.
I'm not after number crunching when gaming, so cannot say about FPS, but if I'm able to kill Overland bosses, it should not be that bad.
I also tried the PS4. For me PC/Mac for life

RefLiberty

I would highly recommend getting SSD for quality of life feature. Not just for eso but in general.

Just know one thing, you will experience occasional stutter and fps drops regardless is it a $1K or $5K machine, it is the game issues not hardware.
I have a HW monitor installed with overlay active while playing, and I'm looking what HW is doing when stutter occurs, and it is not computer related issue.
Like CPU is picking nose at 17% of load, GPU is like 45% and RAM is 5/16 and fps still drops.
That simply needs to be resolved by zos from game side.

Saying that just to know when you build your machine to not get disappointed.
I would recommend using https://www.nzxt.com/camapp as it is light weight and overlay is not too big or intrusive while playing.

Banana

Welcome and install those add-ons

Aznarb

Close to my PC spec, I run everything to full, even in cyro, got no fps problem ever.
I use a M2 SSD where I put eso + OS, run fine.

Nestor

One thing about these Pre-Builts. They don't always work out of the box. Shipping companies are brutal, and the builders are in a hurry. I read a magazine review with 10 of the Builders out there being tested. 9 of them needed attention after delivery. Not a ton mind you, but definently not power up and play.

You still need to be comfortable with cracking the case and fiddling with things. Reseating cards, plugging in drive cables etc. In shipping, parts are going to get knocked loose. Also, drivers are not always optimal.

So, you do save some build time, but you still need to know how these things go together and how to update and optimize drivers.

brear_x

Appreciate all the posts guys.

Off the back of them I am going to do a bit more research and look to piece my own together rather than “buy blind” and hope for the best

ZonasArch

Since you seem to want to learn and research, my tip for you is: there's a reason all the knowledgeable people are only building ryzen PC's these days, not using Intel.

Should you decide to go that route after your research, I highly recommend b450 platform and ryzen 2000 series since they are SO cheap right now, compared to newer 3000 that aren't all that better, price for price.

huntgod_ESO

Depending on your budget, some of the out of the box solutions will actually save you money, often because it is maybe using one gen back hardware and they are trying to clear inventory, but for budget minded folks, it is worth looking at some of the pre builts on Newegg and Amazon.

---edit---

I also highly recommend the AMD Ryzen chips right now, they are a MUCH better price/performance than Intel and unlike in the past they are being supported well and are a great chip...I have been an Intel guy for decades, but AMD really has a good product right now.

Their GPU's are also really solid performers, just make sure you are buying non reference cards that have fans and not blowers. But the 5700xt is fantastic and a good $50 less than the 2060 SUPER, which is also a good card. If you aren't worried about ray tracing which isn't going to be a thing for years, then the 5700 or 5700xt is the way to go.

Nestor

You may find this interesting

https://www.pcgamer.com/pc-build-guide-budget-gaming-pc/

MEBengalsFan2001

I am wondering if my old laptop could play ESO...

Asus G74
Intel i7 2630M (Sandy Bridge)
8GB DDR 3 RAM
1TB 7200 HDD
Nividia GTX 560M

If that system doesn't work I'm sure my daughter's new laptop could play it.

AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
16GB DRR4
500GB WD Blue SN550 M.2 SATA SSD
AMD Radeon RX 560X


I bought my Asus G74 back in 2011 and spent around $1100. It is way slower than my daughter new gaming laptop. For her laptop I paid around $650. The performance of her laptop, especially the HD makes the older one looks slow and limp. However, the older one for the most part does the job well for whatever my wife and daughter was throwing at it until my daughter wanted to do game capture and live streaming. I decided to give her, a little toy of her own to use instead of trying to use the older one at the same time as my wife or I.

As for $$$ for a gaming rig; if you spend around $750, even on laptops, you should get a half way decent machine for most games. There are a few that will stress the system but if you are planning to play those games extensively than you should look to spend more.