Yeah, this is totally fair and makes sense.

Nyladreas

8x Streak in a Row and still enough magicka to deal damage, spam shields etc.
Why is there even a cost increase if they can just do that? lmao + I counted another 5 before that which the game did not register.

ArchMikem

If the sorc had to use streak that much, im guessing you had em panicky and was probably right near fumes when finally getting you.

Nyladreas

ArchMikem wrote: »

If the sorc had to use streak that much, im guessing you had em panicky and was probably right near fumes when finally getting you.

Funniest part is I just ran out of pots so my sustain was bunk. I wonder what would happen if i won that duel. But still, point is: How can he spam it so much and be just fine? Whats the point of cost increase if its not doing its job?

Nerouyn

Nyladreas wrote: »

Funniest part is I just ran out of pots so my sustain was bunk. I wonder what would happen if i won that duel. But still, point is: How can he spam it so much and be just fine? Whats the point of cost increase if its not doing its job?

How can you claim it's not doing its job just because YOU died to it once?

Gilvoth

12000 streak damage is WAY too much, that needs to have both the stunn and the damage removed from it, its a defensive skill.

StormeReigns

Not hard to cycle a Dark Conversion in between every other streak to keep your magicka pool up and spamming Streak. Plus getting additional magicka returned for 20 seconds on top of what ever their sustain was/is, not including other buffs that might have been present. Also, DC doesn't have a big fancy animation like Dark Deal does.

I'm more interested in you 1v1 fight as a whole, were movement is key, how you got tagged 8 times... and how many were actually missed.

Video of it? There is more to this sandwich than the two pieces of bread you are giving us.

Sanctum74

Considering the sorc has to turn around each time to streak again as well as using other skills it would take him at least 20 seconds to hit you 8 times with it. 12k damage over 20 seconds is nothing to cry nerf over.

MashmalloMan

Gilvoth wrote: »

12000 streak damage is WAY too much, that needs to have both the stunn and the damage removed from it, its a defensive skill.

Over 8 hits. Didn't know 1500 damage was so OP when we have 17k + Grave Robber synergies in the game.

MrBrownstone

Gilvoth wrote: »

12000 streak damage is WAY too much, that needs to have both the stunn and the damage removed from it, its a defensive skill.

The number of people upvoting this troll post is a good indicator of ignorance of the players

idk

Nyladreas wrote: »

8x Streak in a Row and still enough magicka to deal damage, spam shields etc.
Why is there even a cost increase if they can just do that? lmao + I counted another 5 before that which the game did not register.

The death recap does not register everything and lacks a timestamp as well. It is not a reliable way to say something is wrong unless it is showing total damage of skills is far off from what it should be.

Basically, it is not detailed enough to have real value.

Carespanker

Make streak off-balance instead of stun.

Captain_Slaymore

Nyladreas wrote: »

8x Streak in a Row and still enough magicka to deal damage, spam shields etc.
Why is there even a cost increase if they can just do that? lmao + I counted another 5 before that which the game did not register.

Yeah, you should use Foundry Tactical Combat Log that gives a timestamp on all the attacks, and what hits and misses, what kind of damage you are doing and SS it.

Nyladreas

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Gilvoth wrote: »

12000 streak damage is WAY too much, that needs to have both the stunn and the damage removed from it, its a defensive skill.

Over 8 hits. Didn't know 1500 damage was so OP when we have 17k + Grave Robber synergies in the game.

It's not the damage tho.

Frozen_Heart246

You died from streak .. This is something you wouldn't tell to anyone:

Honestly if you cant counter sorc that's only your problem in the first place. Sorc is great to punishing low skilled players but that's it. Sorc is some sort of a noob filter.

Joy_Division

Carespanker wrote: »

Make streak off-balance instead of stun.

Oh god no. Stop eviscerating out class abilities and replacing them with some generic mechanic that when ZOS nerfs basically sucker punches every class in the stomach.

Stuns aren't the end of the world, just CC break and against a good opponent you should most of them time be on CC immunity anyway.

Moonsorrow

Gilvoth wrote: »

12000 streak damage is WAY too much, that needs to have both the stunn and the damage removed from it, its a defensive skill.

Dude, that damage is from 8 ( EIGHT ) Streaks, not from 12000 from 1 (one) Streak, if you can math.. the Streak damage is pretty low.

*heavy sigh*

Point of the post was the sustain of it, and by the looks of that recap, they used the "standard" sorc combo (that is not so costly) and just kept Streaking over for the Stun (drain resources) and pressure.

The damage numbers tell also that the sorc was wearing sustain set(s) to yes, sustain a lot of Streaking as example and i see nothing wrong with it, some sorcs now Streak around and not use the old Shield Stacking method, it is more fun anyways but risky. But i also play like that, i play my Msorc without any pets and use 2 sustain sets and Streak tactically as both for kiting and offensively for pressure for the burst combo.

Legit playstyle and i see nothing wrong with it. They could have been on pet-sorc build and had bigger damage. Now looks like op got outplayed by offensive Streaking and the usual combo.

Nyladreas, just not run out of resources/pots the next time and maybe different result.

ZonasArch

Nyladreas wrote: »

8x Streak in a Row and still enough magicka to deal damage, spam shields etc.
Why is there even a cost increase if they can just do that? lmao + I counted another 5 before that which the game did not register.

If you look at the individual damage, it's really, REALLY, low. I have a build with 50k Magicka, 3k Magicka Regen. I can streak 8x "in a row" with that build. I think I can do 9, actually. The funny thing is... That build SUCKS because it's literally built for that purpose only, streak trolling. The consequence of that is my dmg is hilariously low, kinda like this guy you're talking about.

Fair? Yes. Doing its job? Damn right, it is. This is clearly a l2p issue... Stun has a cool down, so after the first hit, you break free and the next few hits you took, you just lack the skill to escape. Sorry to say, but that's how it's...

Streak is a clunky skill with a noticeable down time between a chain and a totally predictable path, and if you got hit 3x, you should know you'll be targeted for 4x, 5x... At this point, what's the reason you couldn't avoid it? Use your own stun or paralyze, roll dodge away, or maybe use an invisibility potion to hide away? Dunno... Many ways to avoid it...

Unless this whole post is a "Nerf sorc" troll post.

Lylith

so this is yet another 'nerf sorcs' thread.

marvelous.

dazee

Ez fix. make streak not do damage. it's a mobility tool, not a nuke attack.

rager82b14_ESO

I agree remove the stun aspect from it.

oxygen_thief

is it mine? hey mum im on tv

Gilvoth

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Lylith wrote: »

so this is yet another 'nerf sorcs' thread.

marvelous.

sorcerer extreme Damage NEED to be exposed.
the ability to do massive damage and hitting people with multiple hits in under 1 second and killing people instantly with mass damage is not fair gameplay.
thats way too much instant damage!

got that stupid MASSIVE HUGE hurricane whiping all around me cant stealth at all from it,
got that explosion happinging that even when purge it they instantly re-aply it so its constant explosions,
got the extremely high powered and UNBLOCKABLE knockdown from the streak AND it does damage AND able to perform that from Great Distances AND THROUGH WALLS AND TREES!
AND crystal blast and many other damage sources all happening within 1 SECOND IS TOO MUCH DAMAGE!!!!

tooo much damge happening all within under 1 second IS TOO MUCH

and what about those all those pets making the sorcerer UNTARGETABLE
you cannot target the sorcerer, all damage we do goes DIRECTLY TO THE PETS, NOT THE SORCERER
lets not even get started on the shields, they insta cast making them completely BOSS MODE so it takes GROUPS of people to kill sorcerers!
they removed the shield breaker set now so all you see is just GOD MODE sorcerers!

oxygen_thief

Gilvoth wrote: »

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thats way too much instant damage!

its my streaking in report. now look at my battlegrounds statistic and witness my tremendous unstoppable power!
sympathise to those hundreds and thousands of poor helpless stam wardens dk and necros who were slain by my mighty streak!

Daffen

Gilvoth wrote: »

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Lylith wrote: »

so this is yet another 'nerf sorcs' thread.

marvelous.

sorcerer extreme Damage NEED to be exposed.
the ability to do massive damage and hitting people with multiple hits in under 1 second and killing people instantly with mass damage is not fair gameplay.
thats way too much instant damage!

got that stupid MASSIVE HUGE hurricane whiping all around me cant stealth at all from it,
got that *** explosion happinging that even when purge it they instantly re-aply it so its constant explosions,
got the extremely high powered and UNBLOCKABLE knockdown from the streak AND it does damage
AND crystal blast and many other damage sources all happening within 1 SECOND IS TOO MUCH DAMAGE!!!!

tooo much damge happening all within under 1 second IS TOO MUCH

and what about those all those pets making the sorcerer UNTARGETABLE
you cannot target the sorcerer, all damage we do goes DIRECTLY TO THE PETS, NOT THE SORCERER
lets not even get started on the shields, they insta cast making them completely BOSS MODE so it takes GROUPS of people to kill sorcerers!
they removed the shield breaker set now so all you see is just GOD MODE sorcerers!

Well looks like someone is a pissy nightblade that cant escape using his cloak after he failed to snipe gank someone.

Let me tell you why all your arguments suck

1. Sorcs only have massive damage if you dont keep your buffs up or have an unoptimised build that is full damage glass cannon build either l2p or make a better build that can carry you.
2. The hurricane only does damage when you are close to them, and the curse is a good counter against a stealthing nightblade like you. I reccomend you to heal up and roll dodge and not cloak straight away.
3. Streak is unblockable yes, but so is your fear so you have nothing to complain about it and i bet you wouldnt even have time to block it since it doesnt have a cast time. And the damage from streak is on average like 2000-1000 which is nothing.
4. Sorc is a burst class, if you dont know how to counter it you deserve to get bursted down, people say you can hear snipe and you can block/roll dodge it. Guess what. You can hear the shards proc and its a giant *** projectile that takes at least 0.6 seconds to reach you giving you time to block/roll dodge.
5. Pets doesnt make the sorc untargetable. I reccomend binding the select preferred target button so you can easily select the sorcerer instead of its pet when you are fighting one.
6. Shields got a big nerf and are expensive to cast, they used to be around 10k shield each totaling 20k and the light armor shield gave back more magicka than the shield costed which is why it was overperforming. Now sorceres have to play with 2000-3000 magicka recovery and still run out of magicka. And shield breaker set is still in the game and is still one of the best damage sets even without attacking a shield.

Speaking as a player that has played stamDK, stamSorc, magblade, stamblade and has a friend that plays magsorc.

My friend that plays magsorc hates good nightblades and has problems killing them, but he has no problems with killing the *** ones.

Gilvoth

my comments Stand!
and you know what, i bet you if you sent an email to ALL the eso players who do not play sorcerer they will agree with what i said.

StormeReigns

Gilvoth wrote: »

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Lylith wrote: »

so this is yet another 'nerf sorcs' thread.

marvelous.

sorcerer extreme Damage NEED to be exposed.
the ability to do massive damage and hitting people with multiple hits in under 1 second and killing people instantly with mass damage is not fair gameplay.
thats way too much instant damage!

got that stupid MASSIVE HUGE hurricane whiping all around me cant stealth at all from it,
got that explosion happinging that even when purge it they instantly re-aply it so its constant explosions,
got the extremely high powered and UNBLOCKABLE knockdown from the streak AND it does damage AND able to perform that from Great Distances AND THROUGH WALLS AND TREES!
AND crystal blast and many other damage sources all happening within 1 SECOND IS TOO MUCH DAMAGE!!!!

tooo much damge happening all within under 1 second IS TOO MUCH

and what about those all those pets making the sorcerer UNTARGETABLE
you cannot target the sorcerer, all damage we do goes DIRECTLY TO THE PETS, NOT THE SORCERER
lets not even get started on the shields, they insta cast making them completely BOSS MODE so it takes GROUPS of people to kill sorcerers!
they removed the shield breaker set now so all you see is just GOD MODE sorcerers!

Two sides to every story, no need to exaggerate to try to make a point on an already vague and misleading thread.

StaticWave

Gilvoth wrote: »

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Lylith wrote: »

so this is yet another 'nerf sorcs' thread.

marvelous.

sorcerer extreme Damage NEED to be exposed.
the ability to do massive damage and hitting people with multiple hits in under 1 second and killing people instantly with mass damage is not fair gameplay.
thats way too much instant damage!

got that stupid MASSIVE HUGE hurricane whiping all around me cant stealth at all from it,
got that explosion happinging that even when purge it they instantly re-aply it so its constant explosions,
got the extremely high powered and UNBLOCKABLE knockdown from the streak AND it does damage AND able to perform that from Great Distances AND THROUGH WALLS AND TREES!
AND crystal blast and many other damage sources all happening within 1 SECOND IS TOO MUCH DAMAGE!!!!

tooo much damge happening all within under 1 second IS TOO MUCH

and what about those all those pets making the sorcerer UNTARGETABLE
you cannot target the sorcerer, all damage we do goes DIRECTLY TO THE PETS, NOT THE SORCERER
lets not even get started on the shields, they insta cast making them completely BOSS MODE so it takes GROUPS of people to kill sorcerers!
they removed the shield breaker set now so all you see is just GOD MODE sorcerers!

You’ve been calling nerfs to magsorc and animation canceling for years now. If you think magsorc burst is op, then you haven’t even fought a good stamdk, stamden, or stamcro... Literally just l2p...

Daffen

Gilvoth wrote: »

my comments Stand!
and you know what, i bet you if you sent an email to ALL the eso players who do not play sorcerer they will agree with what i said.

I dont play sorcerer and i disagree with everything you just said, my friend which beats malcolm 1v1 on his open world sorcerer cant kill me when i play on my magblade because i know how to counter sorcerers.

technohic

I find streak obnoxious but I cant fathom 9 streaks in a death recap. That's a lot of time to pass

Daffen

technohic wrote: »

I find streak obnoxious but I cant fathom 9 streaks in a death recap. That's a lot of time to pass

The streaks shown in the death recap is from the entire fight meaning, the sorcerer didnt spam streak 8 times in a row. Therefore the increased cost of streak does not apply. What happened was; he got streaked and stunned off cooldown, while under pressure he ran out of resources got stunned by streak and finnished off while lying there. It shows 8 streaks cause that is the total amount he got hit by streak.

Iskiab

Biggest question is, how did you let someone else use what... 12 abilities... without using a single heal?

Man, the sorc should have just light attacked you to death, it would have made a more hilarious death recap.