Would you like to see Alliance Lock back in 30 days noCP campaign?

Commancho

Due to the Alliance Lock being removed from 30 days noCP, now we have a bunch of trolls stealing scrolls and hammer and giving it to the enemy, sabotaging sieges and spying in general. Usually open to public Alliance's guilds & groups are dimishing or they are locked to people from outside. It makes campaign completly unfriendly and paranoic.

We have a 7 day campaign which is perfect for people who don't care about their alliance and want to play Cyrodiil.
That's why I'm suggesting reverting these terrible changes ASAP and bringing back Alliance Lock to this campaign.

sproattt

Didn't vote.

But this campaign lock is becoming absurd.

I wanna play AD then EP month to month so different alliance each month for different toons.

Now what ESO does is lock each of those into the campaign and charges 150k ap per char to abandon and leave the main campaign open for the other alliance.

150k ap per char to abandon.

Then 150k ap per char to home set alliance with different alliance char.

TLDR- these frauds are charging 100k then 150k per char to swap alliance.

This has been happening since the day the campaigns got locked. The coding is abysmal in this area it's super flawed.

Kr3do

No, we don't need Alliance Lock in 30 days noCP campaign.

I don't want to see Alliance Lock anywhere.

MartiniDaniels

No, we don't need Alliance Lock in 30 days noCP campaign.

No matter of alliance preferences, no-CP is closer to BG in terms of balance and should be available to all your toons. Since there is not enough population to have 2 no-CP campaigns, ZOS has no other choice...

Commancho

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

You can play 7 days campagn with all your toons.

Joy_Division

No, we don't need Alliance Lock in 30 days noCP campaign.

It's amazing that you think "trolls" would play correctly and not hand over scrolls or sabotage seiges, or spy if you just coerce them into playing a single faction.

Commancho

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

Joy_Division wrote: »

It's amazing that you think "trolls" would play correctly and not hand over scrolls or sabotage seiges, or spy if you just coerce them into playing a single faction.

Ofcourse they wouldn't, it was a nice & friendly campaign untill recent changes. Now I see bunch of new faces and handing over scrolls & hammer on daily basis. Most of groups are locked and they won't invite you even if you follow them and assist them in sieges. Maybe for you it's great, but I give this campaign maximum 6 months before it dies just like any previous no alliance lock campaigns.

Sanguinor2

Commancho wrote: »

Ofcourse they wouldn't, it was a nice & friendly campaign untill recent changes. Now I see bunch of new faces and handing over scrolls & hammer on daily basis. Most of groups are locked and they won't invite you even if you follow them and assist them in sieges. Maybe for you it's great, but I give this campaign maximum 6 months before it dies just like any previous no alliance lock campaigns.

So how did we have campaigns pre elsweyr if all alliance unlocked campaigns died?

idk

No, we don't need Alliance Lock in 30 days noCP campaign.

Faction lock was a bad idea to begin with. It causes no significant issue or problems or else Zos would not offer the choice to begin with.

Cirantille

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

Yes, give us the option

So trolls can keep trolling each other in non-lock

Toanis

Since I don't roleplay in a PVP zone, I couldn't care less about alliance lock campains and notions about spies and saboteurs. I go to Cyrodiil to do some PVP on the char I want to play today.

As long as there are also non-alliance locked-campaigns, I'm fine with every campaign type having an alliance locked version; main advantage for me is that it minimizes the zone chat rants of avid faction loyalists.

So fine with me for alliance lock in "A no-CP campaign", but a clear no to locking "THE no-CP campaign." I like a fallback option when my chosen char's alliance in the CP campaign is a hopeless case.

Carespanker

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

This thread already exists.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/514372/the-major-no-cp-pvp-campaign-should-be-alliance-locked-yes-or-no#latest

But i believe these dead camps speak for themselves.
https://gyazo.com/2800af3b77f76e4c83bd66be14c9eec4

GhostWolf_ESO

lol did not take long for this thread to appear LMAO

YandereGirlfriend

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

Loving all of the folks who don't even play on the campaign coming in, patting us on the head, and telling those of us who do why our campaign must be sacrificed for the greater good.

It absolutely reeks of entitlement.

My PvP guild abandoned the non-CP campaign for precisely the reason the OP mentions: folks are coming in and running scrolls out to their true faction, infiltrating and reporting on the movement of groups they're in, taking the hammer into the bay, etc. Nobody can trust anybody unless they know them personally and the campaign is dying as a result.

Which is ironic because the last three campaign cycles had terrific population numbers, giving complete lie to the false claim that non-CP can't support itself.

Karmen

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

Alliance unlock is a heresy.

xXMeowMeowXx

No, we don't need Alliance Lock in 30 days noCP campaign.

Kr3do wrote: »

I don't want to see Alliance Lock anywhere.

Agree ^ people and guilds still do the underhanded things they have been always doing. small scale, solo players, and friends are getting fd over

Looking at you to BGs lazy solutions ruin the game....

They need a new campaign for the fraction fanatics to be perma locked in there, simple.

JamieAubrey

HELL YES

Vicinia

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Loving all of the folks who don't even play on the campaign coming in, patting us on the head, and telling those of us who do why our campaign must be sacrificed for the greater good.

It absolutely reeks of entitlement.

My PvP guild abandoned the non-CP campaign for precisely the reason the OP mentions: folks are coming in and running scrolls out to their true faction, infiltrating and reporting on the movement of groups they're in, taking the hammer into the bay, etc. Nobody can trust anybody unless they know them personally and the campaign is dying as a result.

Which is ironic because the last three campaign cycles had terrific population numbers, giving complete lie to the false claim that non-CP can't support itself.

Honestly if you don't play No-CP why even talk about it. You have Laat, we don't have an equivalent any longer.

This is exactly how things were on PS4 when Sotha Sil was unlocked. They use the campaign to sell emp and they'll do whatever it takes make sure to discourage actual gameplay to make their gold/farm ap. It ruins the whole campaign. It's not about RPing faction loyalty, I don't even care if people have multiple colours and participate. But some people actively troll and manipulate the campaign. That's what ruins it.

The truth is CP has a locked and unlocked campaign. Let No-CP have the same. It won't completely eliminate manipulation but it'll mitigate it at least. The ones who sell emp/manipulate will probably gravitate towards the unlocked one.

Hamish999

I want to see 1 locked and 1 unlocked campaign for both CP and noCP.
Give people the choice to play where and how they want.

Mr_Walker

LOL spies. Yes, because most of you are tactical geniuses that no one could ever see coming.

YandereGirlfriend

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

Vicinia wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Loving all of the folks who don't even play on the campaign coming in, patting us on the head, and telling those of us who do why our campaign must be sacrificed for the greater good.

It absolutely reeks of entitlement.

My PvP guild abandoned the non-CP campaign for precisely the reason the OP mentions: folks are coming in and running scrolls out to their true faction, infiltrating and reporting on the movement of groups they're in, taking the hammer into the bay, etc. Nobody can trust anybody unless they know them personally and the campaign is dying as a result.

Which is ironic because the last three campaign cycles had terrific population numbers, giving complete lie to the false claim that non-CP can't support itself.

Honestly if you don't play No-CP why even talk about it. You have Laat, we don't have an equivalent any longer.

This is exactly how things were on PS4 when Sotha Sil was unlocked. They use the campaign to sell emp and they'll do whatever it takes make sure to discourage actual gameplay to make their gold/farm ap. It ruins the whole campaign. It's not about RPing faction loyalty, I don't even care if people have multiple colours and participate. But some people actively troll and manipulate the campaign. That's what ruins it.

The truth is CP has a locked and unlocked campaign. Let No-CP have the same. It won't completely eliminate manipulation but it'll mitigate it at least. The ones who sell emp/manipulate will probably gravitate towards the unlocked one.

I think you mean to be quoting someone else.

I DO play in non-CP and support getting it faction-locked again.

Commancho

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

Mr_Walker wrote: »

LOL spies. Yes, because most of you are tactical geniuses that no one could ever see coming.

Because having informations about hostile groups such as positions, size and objectives is not usefull...

furiouslog

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

Joy_Division wrote: »

It's amazing that you think "trolls" would play correctly and not hand over scrolls or sabotage seiges, or spy if you just coerce them into playing a single faction.

No, but it creates additional barriers to entry.

Daedric_NB_187

No, we don't need Alliance Lock in 30 days noCP campaign.

Nope. Glad they got rid of it. Kill faction lock with fire.

Vicinia

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Vicinia wrote: »

YandereGirlfriend wrote: »

Loving all of the folks who don't even play on the campaign coming in, patting us on the head, and telling those of us who do why our campaign must be sacrificed for the greater good.

It absolutely reeks of entitlement.

My PvP guild abandoned the non-CP campaign for precisely the reason the OP mentions: folks are coming in and running scrolls out to their true faction, infiltrating and reporting on the movement of groups they're in, taking the hammer into the bay, etc. Nobody can trust anybody unless they know them personally and the campaign is dying as a result.

Which is ironic because the last three campaign cycles had terrific population numbers, giving complete lie to the false claim that non-CP can't support itself.

Honestly if you don't play No-CP why even talk about it. You have Laat, we don't have an equivalent any longer.

This is exactly how things were on PS4 when Sotha Sil was unlocked. They use the campaign to sell emp and they'll do whatever it takes make sure to discourage actual gameplay to make their gold/farm ap. It ruins the whole campaign. It's not about RPing faction loyalty, I don't even care if people have multiple colours and participate. But some people actively troll and manipulate the campaign. That's what ruins it.

The truth is CP has a locked and unlocked campaign. Let No-CP have the same. It won't completely eliminate manipulation but it'll mitigate it at least. The ones who sell emp/manipulate will probably gravitate towards the unlocked one.

I think you mean to be quoting someone else.

I DO play in non-CP and support getting it faction-locked again.

I was actually agreeing with you. My wording wasnt the best lol

Mr_Walker

Commancho wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

LOL spies. Yes, because most of you are tactical geniuses that no one could ever see coming.

Because having informations about hostile groups such as positions, size and objectives is not usefull...

You can guess the approx size of a group by the number of siege they have up, and your next objective is not usually that hard to fathom....

Y'all make me think of "My lord, I have a cunning plan...."

indigorune

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

pvp was better with alliance lock. now it's just troll land. my amount of time in pvp has gone way down since the change. it's just not fun.

Beardimus

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

I'd like it back, or choice. Like on CP.

Even if that was a 7 day noCP.

It's clearly more popular on CP.

Royaji

No, we don't need Alliance Lock in 30 days noCP campaign.

If ZOS were to introduce a truly competitive campaign, you know, one which is not decided by 10 guys painting the map one color every night, I would at least understand and wouldn't really mind having a faction lock to keep the competitve spirit.

But as it is, half measures like faction lock do not bring any positives like making campaign score really competitive but still retain all of their negatives like preventing people from playing with friends/their favorite alt.

Commancho

Yes, Alliance Lock should be present in 30 days noCP campaign.

Mr_Walker wrote: »

Commancho wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

LOL spies. Yes, because most of you are tactical geniuses that no one could ever see coming.

Because having informations about hostile groups such as positions, size and objectives is not usefull...

You can guess the approx size of a group by the number of siege they have up, and your next objective is not usually that hard to fathom....

Y'all make me think of "My lord, I have a cunning plan...."

You can capture a castle in less than 2 mins and an outpost in less than 1 minute, before anyone will even port there to count the sieges there LOL

karekiz

No, we don't need Alliance Lock in 30 days noCP campaign.

The real question is why do they have a 30 Day CP. CP is a CRUTCH and needs to be REMOVED.