how to play eso without killing or thieving?

thissocalledflower

Anyone knows how? Please post below...

Royaji

You don't. If you are trying not to kill anyone you won't even get past the tutorial.

Lysette

Call killing "support of soul transfer" and thievery "release from burden to care about possession" and you neither kill nor steal - you help people improving their spiritual development - all just a matter of how you look at things. Or if you are a warden, you accelerate the natural exchange of biomass and heal people from their addiction to stuff.

BoraxFlux

What do you want to achieve in game?

You could try farming nodes, treasure chests, crafting writs, fishing, sell stuff, crafting, housing, grouping up with others that don't mind you only heal & buff.

Dress to escape, e.g. invisibility potions, swift potions.

Raudgrani

You don't have to murder or steal, if that's what you mean. If you want to join Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild, that's a choice - one which you don't have to make. But killing in general, you don't get away with not doing it in a game like this. It's pretty much centered around combat, and I do have a problem to imagine what brought anyone here, if they don't like fighting etc. at all. :-)

woufff

Royaji wrote: »

You don't. If you are trying not to kill anyone you won't even get past the tutorial.

This^^.

If the tutorial doesn't count for you, I guess you could survive with farming, trading, daily crafting etc. but you won't be able to "play" the game

Although, UESP lists a couple of pacifist quests, but there aren't much

Have fun and avoid the Dark Brotherhood

Hotdog_23

No to be mean but play a different game.

Coatmagic

You can get to max level without killing or thieving.

You will not be able to do very many quests, and you will have to limit your helping to healing, but it can be done.

*Do not do the Cyro intro quest as there are people in the target 'dummies'

Lady_Linux

What a great idea for a challenge...

CassandraGemini

I guess that depends on what exactly you mean by "killing", OP. If it's "murdering people in cold blood", then that's easy, just don't join the Dark Brotherhood and you will never have to kill an innocent NPC. With all the others, the actual enemies that appear red to you, you can always wait for them to attack you first and then it's pretty much self-defense. Same for thieving, you can get through all the content (excluding the obvious exceptions, of course) no problem without stealing a single item from anyone.

If, however, you're actually referring to "killing anyone", then you're screwed. I mean, it might be possible, technically, I guess, but it would suck all the fun out of the game, IMO. I really can't imagine a playstyle like that would make for a very enjoyable experience.

Edited for clarification.

Anhedonie

Imagine that you just knock people out instead of killing them.

wolfbone

if you dont want to kill anything then you're not going to have much fun.

Magenpie

Also, you can skip the tutorial if it's not your first character.

And I like your style OP, this is an RPG after all. I'm sure it is possible but you'll have to be slow and careful in how you go about things. As other people suggest, there are probably only a few quests, but invisi potions will be your friend, running away works. There are addons which may help too. I use one which stops me from accidentally stealing things.

Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

Tranquilizer

Anhedonie wrote: »

Imagine that you just knock people out instead of killing them.

^This.

Arm yourself with maces if stamina, this will add to the imagination of knocking them out instead of killing them with a sharp weapon. This is also somewhat true, because all "killed" NPCs are back (respawned) in some minutes.

If magicka, knock them out with your magic or your staff.

idk

Most MMORPGs require killing. As others have pointed out, if you have played this game for 5 minutes you have already killed things. Basically to late to atone for dispatching evil.

dsalter

thissocalledflower wrote: »

Anyone knows how? Please post below...

skip the tutorial (requires a separate character to unlock) then just farm plants, rocks and chests until you max out.

FierceSam

You can level via crafting, exploration. You can try and accomplish certain quests by stealth or just do steppenfetchit tasks. You could simply heal in dungeon content (although that is clearly killing and thieving by proxy).

You could do housing and fashion, getting gold by doing housing for others.

It’s a challenge for sure, but it’s got to be doable.

dsalter

idk wrote: »

Most MMORPGs require killing. As others have pointed out, if you have played this game for 5 minutes you have already killed things. Basically to late to atone for dispatching evil.

look up "Doubleagent" Wow

sionIV

I've seen similar questions in other games, and all of them came with a religious undertone.

FierceSam

sionIV wrote: »

I've seen similar questions in other games, and all of them came with a religious undertone.

I don’t think it is necessarily religious to be concerned that all advancement in the game essentially revolves around killing. One only has to try levelling a character as a healer or tank to see that killing is where almost all experience comes from.

I don’t have a problem with it personally - the only good daedra is a dead one in my book - but I can understand the basic moral dilemma OP is raising. In a game that revolves around fighting, killing and stealing, can you actually succeed by being a ‘civilised’ social player? Thinking about it very briefly, it does seem quite challenging and might be worth the time creating a character to specifically try to do that.

It will be very interesting to see how much actual killing will be required to complete the new Antiquity quests and whether the rewards are exclusively militaristic in nature or if they provide a range of non-violent benefits that enable more non-lethal gameplay.

Fur_like_snow

This ain’t Pokémon.

HappyTheCamper

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

This ain’t Pokémon.

The Indrik events say otherwise!

PizzaCat82

Crafting. Doing writs can get you to max level, and harvesting crafting nodes allows you to get resources without stealing or killing.

Arunei

As others have said, you can level by exploring and discovering new locations on the map (every black icon like wayshrines and points of interest give you a bit of exp when you discover them and turn them white), doing daily crafting writs (you can do 6 in base game and 7 if you have Summerset to do Jewelry Crafting), and opening chests. You can increase the amount of exp these give you by using Psijic Ambrosia potions, which increase all your exp gains by 50%, or using exp scrolls (which we get a few of every month as login rewards) which also increase your exp gain by anywhere from 50% to 150%, depending on the scroll. They're not stackable though so you can only use one or the other at a time.

Also, you could go to areas where there are a lot of Daedra and Daedric cultists, and especially Dolmens. While you might not want to kill in general, Daedra are pretty much inherently "evil", but! When you kill a Daedra, it doesn't actually stay dead. Instead its 'soul' goes back to Oblivion to have a new body made. So you aren't actually killing Daedra, you're just sending them back to Oblivion for a bit (this is actual canon lore too, not headcanon, so you don't have to feel like you're taking someone else's thoughts on the matter). While this isn't usually the case for mortal beings, though, you can feel justified killing the cultists and worshippers since they themselves tend to be evil people who hurt others, so you could see killing them as protecting people.

Edited for typos. Yay autocorrect!

worrallj

There are also plenty of fetch quests that don't technically require any combat. Although they may be part of a chain that does ..

Danikat

As other people have said if you want to avoid murder than that's easy, as long as you don't join the Dark Brotherhood you'll never be required to kill an innocent and within the laws of Tamriel any killing you do is legal and considered necessary or unavoidable.

If you want to avoid killing anyone at all then I'd say it depends on how you define 'anyone'. If you want to be a complete pacifist and not fight or kill anything that will be difficult, but there's a lot of quests where you're not required to fight any people, instead you're fighting daedra and other summoned creatures (which technically you can't kill, you just send them back to Oblivion), zombies and skeletons which are already dead, or animals.

Of course being a fantasy world there's some grey areas too - do you consider goblins to be people? How about spriggans? But since it's your rule and not something enforced by the game it's up to you where you draw the line. You could even choose on a case-by-case basis as you're going through the game.

rpa

Play Undertale instead?

Seriously, I've tried plying some other MMO in sneaky style (not pacifist but avoiding any fight I could) and after doing every quest in a zone I was underlevelled enough I could not move on next. Play as you want as long as you want to kill things.

jadarock

Buy a home and live out of the crown store OP?

Shantu

HappyTheCamper wrote: »

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

This ain’t Pokémon.

The Indrik events say otherwise!

LMAO!

Arunei

rpa wrote: »

Play Undertale instead?

Seriously, I've tried plying some other MMO in sneaky style (not pacifist but avoiding any fight I could) and after doing every quest in a zone I was underlevelled enough I could not move on next. Play as you want as long as you want to kill things.

Telling someone to play another game because they want to avoid a certain aspect is hardly helpful advice. You might have been underleveled in the other games you tried, but those games are not ESO. You aren't ever underleveled in ESO ever since One Tamriel introduced level scaling for all PvE content, and even though it would take a long time and certainly be hard, you can fully level a character on actions that don't include combat.

Linaleah

dsalter wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Most MMORPGs require killing. As others have pointed out, if you have played this game for 5 minutes you have already killed things. Basically to late to atone for dispatching evil.

look up "Doubleagent" Wow

who to this day is still stuck on a starting island as far as i know. you can level in ESO via lots and lots and LOTS of crafting dailies. kinda like double agent. you can actualy do more then double agent, as if you allow yourself to go though a tutorial - you could spend a lot of time exploring, gathering lorebooks and skyshards, etc (just running away instead of killing mobs and/or dying and resurrecting at a nearest shrine)

but... most of the game requires combat. just. like. WoW.

housing though - housing can take up a LOT of time whether you avoid combat or not. crafting dailies are a fantastic source of income that requires zero killing and you can save up to buy a small house in no time and then spend time decorating it. can trade with players for furniture, or depending on how you feel about opening cupboards that do not come with a bounty (is it still stealing?) try to gather your own collection of furnishing recipes.