100% negative feedback for this patch.

Vercingetorix

Wow, 100% negative feedback. That's likely a record - it's usually somewhere in the 70-80% range. I don't think players are fond of the new "features" added in this patch. I wonder how ZoS is doing on reaching their performance goals by the end of Q2. This patch is certainly not a good sign of progress.

L_Nici

Its really impressive how much you jump onto the name I called the campaign. I already explained Vivec is the shortest and an international name which everyone will understand. I can call it an unspeakable dragons name, I can call it Gray Host, maybe even Bloodthorn, in the end the name doesn't matter at all.

Maybe start to actually present me any good points that "proof" I would lie. All I see here is wild assumptions on a matter you can't even know. I told you how it is for me. I have no issues at all, game runs insanely well and most people I talk to (Guildmembers, Friends) actually say the same. Only a loud screaming minority seems to use the forum to spread hate against everyone and everything.

BackStabeth

Casterial wrote: »

80% of crashes are caused by Addons out of date, they already mentioned this.

ZoS actually stated "Some game crashes are simply being caused by out-of-date addons."

Where did you get the 80% from? Did you pull that one right out of your arse?

Don't state made up statistics. You cannot know, ZoS couldn't possibly know because nobody knows how often or when or how many people experience crashes.

Not one of my out of date addons have caused any crashes. The only crashes I have experienced are specifically related to the update. If you are a purist that doesn't use addons, good for you, but stating it's 80% of the problems is just really stupid.

MudcrabAttack

Positive feedback from me so far:

Last night, as soon as the question of whether I should go to bed entered my mind, I crashed for the first time in months. Needless to say I woke up feeling quite refreshed.

Aektann

L_Nici wrote: »

Its really impressive how much you jump onto the name I called the campaign. I already explained Vivec is the shortest and an international name which everyone will understand. I can call it an unspeakable dragons name, I can call it Gray Host, maybe even Bloodthorn, in the end the name doesn't matter at all.

Maybe start to actually present me any good points that "proof" I would lie. All I see here is wild assumptions on a matter you can't even know. I told you how it is for me. I have no issues at all, game runs insanely well and most people I talk to (Guildmembers, Friends) actually say the same. Only a loud screaming minority seems to use the forum to spread hate against everyone and everything.

Just stop this! You do absolutely nothing good for this game with you lie. "Vocal minority" - this is beyond the bounds. All people here know very well that you just whiteknight and nothing more. You "damage control" has the exact opposite effect. So "spreading hate" is for the most part your fault.

TheFM

Mayrael wrote: »

L_Nici wrote: »

first point: Never encountered
second point: I have a great performance, no lag at all even in crowded areas
third point: Since the patch launched not a single crash
fourth point: Only skill that still bugs is streak
fifth point: Just said it, streak is the only skill that still doesn't work sometimes, of course you can't break free instant you have to press buttons before
sixth point: I experience the complete opposite, my game runs fast especially combat is very smooth
seventh point: No random Loading Screens and the regular ones are way shorter
eighth point: Haven't encountered it yet
ninth point: First one I really agree to, that still is an issue

Your answers are really looking like ZOS propaganda or troll. I don't know anyone who would answer like you, even biggest ESO enthusiasts.

About undo. I'm one of the first ones who reported it, it is still here for over a year. If you didn't encountered any issues with it, I will dare to call you a liar, because I have proofs (videos) of skill not working as it should and over a year of experience while using this skill in PvP. Can you make on the other hand parse with 100 casts of undo, to prove everything works for you?

About crashes. Just read the forums. People with better setups than yours, with clean installs have those issues. Yes thats troue not everyone experiences crashes and we know it, but majority suffers because of it.

And because of reasons mentioned above, I dare to say that crashes aren't caused by our setups or atleast not in 100%. IMHO its because of cutting the weight of the game, ZOS probably orphaned some protocols or objects/classes etc.

Random loading screens, never encountered any? I can even reproduce one for you with 80-90% probability of success.

I guess eight point is about in combat bug (I have to guess because you counted it all wrong). I can reproduce it for you with 100% chance of success.

Combat is in general very cluncky. Maybe you think its awesome, but you're clearly a fresh player. We who remember old glory days of ESO, with hundreds of people on battlefield suffering no lags, fps spikes and in general any issues despite of our setups won't agree with you.

Here, take a look at what ESO used to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DV9TwsosyI

Currently we are living the hope ZOS will make it like this once again. But its a fools dream. Deal with it lads, glory days of Cyrodiil are gone.

Man, if we had that many ppl on screen now the entire datacenter would implode.

TheFM

Cavedog wrote: »

I'm not even submitting the crash reports anymore. I figure 30 plus reports from me alone is sufficient.

We need to just not PvP until they patch.

Keep spamming, maybe we will overload the servers. xD

gatekeeper13

Besides the crashes and loading screens, I got a new bug with STAMINA NOT RECOVERING during fights in Cyro.

Its not just an interface bug. Stamina was stuck at around 5% and couldnt even use skills. It did not recover at all.

Abyssmol

olsborg wrote: »

MirkoZ wrote: »

Sorry but I had high expectations for this patch and now I play a game that is even worse than before.
Those are the things I can say after 4 hours of pvp gameplay (pc eu) :
-undo is still bugged
-lag is still here
-crash every 5/10 mins
-sometimes skills don't work for few seconds.
-streak is still bugged ( it sucks your magika , it shows his animation but you stay at the same position)
-streak stun and other stuns are bugged , you can't break free instant.
-gameplay seems more slow and intricate than before, seems like new block is a bit bugged.
-random loading screen
-combat bug is still here
-"hidden weapon with bow on your feet "bug is still here
Thanks for your attention. Hope you will fix all those issues.

Most if not all (crashing excluded) of those bugs and lagg etc has been present in the game for well over 1,2 and even 3 years for some of them. There is no light in the end of the tunnel anymore, sadly.

These bugs and lag are game features that are now integral part of the game.

Aikar

As a reminder, this update was about improving CLIENT performance. Issues relating to server side lag (aka pretty much all the pvp issues and complaints listed here) was not part of this patch.

TheFM

Aikar wrote: »

As a reminder, this update was about improving CLIENT performance. Issues relating to server side lag (aka pretty much all the pvp issues and complaints listed here) was not part of this patch.

Except this patch introduced a plethora of new issues. So yeah, it is the update.

volkeswagon

Your gameplay also depends on the quality of the internet connection between you and the server

TheFM

volkeswagon wrote: »

Your gameplay also depends on the quality of the internet connection between you and the server

You mean my 500 mb/s internet with 7 ms ping to Frankfurt which is 20 minutes away from where I live?

roflcopter

L_Nici wrote: »

Its really impressive how much you jump onto the name I called the campaign. I already explained Vivec is the shortest and an international name which everyone will understand. I can call it an unspeakable dragons name, I can call it Gray Host, maybe even Bloodthorn, in the end the name doesn't matter at all.

Maybe start to actually present me any good points that "proof" I would lie. All I see here is wild assumptions on a matter you can't even know. I told you how it is for me. I have no issues at all, game runs insanely well and most people I talk to (Guildmembers, Friends) actually say the same. Only a loud screaming minority seems to use the forum to spread hate against everyone and everything.

L_Nici wrote: »

Actually my PvP runs smooth, but I don't zerg on Vivec or Sotha Sil, I play on Shor so maybe thats the reason.

Alomar

And here I thought the downhill performance/balancing/lack-there-of-content trend postlaunch up to 2018 was bad....The past year+ has been nothing but an ideal display of incompetence, don't know how even casual pve'ers and rp'ers can justify supporting this company.

Squidgaurd

Alomar wrote: »

And here I thought the downhill performance/balancing/lack-there-of-content trend postlaunch up to 2018 was bad....The past year+ has been nothing but an ideal display of incompetence, don't know how even casual pve'ers and rp'ers can justify supporting this company.

i mean im sure the rpers will start to complain when they start crashing mid furry erp *** session.

Dusk_Coven

L_Nici wrote: »

Actually my PvP runs smooth, but I don't zerg on Vivec or Sotha Sil, I play on Shor so maybe thats the reason.

How are you playing on those campaigns? I thought they were closed and new ones made, renamed for the upcoming Skyrim theme.

FlowOne

L_Nici wrote: »

Oh, I do play PvP, I never had any issues with Undo ever, also the only thing that laggs in Cyro is primetime Vivec everything else is fine (and really if you play Vivec Primetime you are no PvPler for me, then you are a zergling), I never encounter random loading Screens in Cyro, neither did I crash

Dude plz stfu

Aikar

TheFM wrote: »

Aikar wrote: »

As a reminder, this update was about improving CLIENT performance. Issues relating to server side lag (aka pretty much all the pvp issues and complaints listed here) was not part of this patch.

Except this patch introduced a plethora of new issues. So yeah, it is the update.

The point was this patch wasn't even aiming to solve server side issues, so a lot of the 'this is still broke' was unnecessary statement since it wasn't even intended/attempted to be fixed.

JumpmanLane

TheFM wrote: »

volkeswagon wrote: »

Your gameplay also depends on the quality of the internet connection between you and the server

You mean my 500 mb/s internet with 7 ms ping to Frankfurt which is 20 minutes away from where I live?

Nah, he means my 940 mbps (which actually clocks at 930 mbps) connection lol.

StormWylf

L_Nici wrote: »

first point: Never encountered
second point: I have a great performance, no lag at all even in crowded areas
third point: Since the patch launched not a single crash
fourth point: Only skill that still bugs is streak
fifth point: Just said it, streak is the only skill that still doesn't work sometimes, of course you can't break free instant you have to press buttons before
sixth point: I experience the complete opposite, my game runs fast especially combat is very smooth
seventh point: No random Loading Screens and the regular ones are way shorter
eighth point: Haven't encountered it yet
ninth point: First one I really agree to, that still is an issue

This has been my experience, I am quite happy with the patch.

ArchMikem wrote: »

Experience may vary.

I also concede that ArchMikem has pretty much nailed it. There are too many variables, your system, your connection, did the patch download properly, what kind and how many add-ons are you using ect. I am not disputing some may be having issues but don't claim it's 100% negative feedback, it clearly is not even remotely close to 100% Well that's just IMHO.

Eifleber

Florial wrote: »

The game seems to be a bit better in terms of performance for me however the crashing in Cyrodiil is really getting to be a game breaker for me and quite a few folks in my PvP guild. The crashes seem random although transiting seemed to be a particular problem for many.

I experienced no crashes in the PvE zones although some of my guildmates crashed quite a bit doing routine tasks like writs.

Same here -
1) the game performance and loading speed on peak times has significantly improved
2) random crashes, usually when it doesn't matter much (exiting bank, loading alt, often when exiting game)

NBrookus

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Besides the crashes and loading screens, I got a new bug with STAMINA NOT RECOVERING during fights in Cyro.

Its not just an interface bug. Stamina was stuck at around 5% and couldnt even use skills. It did not recover at all.

It's been happening to magicka for a while; it seems to have spread to stam. Good news is that dying because you ran out of resources and game crashes both fix it for a while!

MirkoZ

Other 2 crashes yeahh

MirkoZ

volkeswagon wrote: »

Your gameplay also depends on the quality of the internet connection between you and the server

Maybe I should try to reset my modem in order to fix all those bugs and crashes .
Sarcastic.

Heresyall

Restart your launcher to fix those bugs. It’s what I would say if I was part of the #ESOFam only doing housing and yet giving my advice on PVE/PvP/performance on forums. (90% of the people defending ZOS atm)

Aurielle

StormWylf wrote: »

L_Nici wrote: »

first point: Never encountered
second point: I have a great performance, no lag at all even in crowded areas
third point: Since the patch launched not a single crash
fourth point: Only skill that still bugs is streak
fifth point: Just said it, streak is the only skill that still doesn't work sometimes, of course you can't break free instant you have to press buttons before
sixth point: I experience the complete opposite, my game runs fast especially combat is very smooth
seventh point: No random Loading Screens and the regular ones are way shorter
eighth point: Haven't encountered it yet
ninth point: First one I really agree to, that still is an issue

This has been my experience, I am quite happy with the patch.

ArchMikem wrote: »

Experience may vary.

I also concede that ArchMikem has pretty much nailed it. There are too many variables, your system, your connection, did the patch download properly, what kind and how many add-ons are you using ect. I am not disputing some may be having issues but don't claim it's 100% negative feedback, it clearly is not even remotely close to 100% Well that's just IMHO.

Out of curiosity: do you participate in Cyrodiil group play, or do you harvest materials and complete overland quests/delves?

Sanguinor2

So, I tried to go to cyro just now, crashed as soon as I tried to port, now getting Error 304, guess thats a sign to stick to MMR reset bgs and fight with and against cp 100s for a while.
Update: Got in after 10 tries only to crash as soon as I started sieging bleakers maingate. Guess thats it for cyro until fixes.

Raevin

I'm happy to hear that this patch is an improvement for some people so it wasn't a complete fail.
For someone to say that the players that experience frequent crashes and gameplay issues that didn't exist before the patch is a small but vocal minority...that person must be incredibly self absorbed.
My Cyrodiil guild group had a discord contest on who crashed the most. The "winner" had 20+ crashes in about 3 hours of gameplay. I chose to go watch a movie after the second crash in 10 minutes.
This happened for each and every player in our ~10 man guild group. Different countries, different PC setups, different internet connections, different add-ons if any, and yet all with the very same issue so how anyone in their right mind can say that this is a player issue and not a game issue is beyond me.
I wholeheartedly believe that the intentions behind this patch were to improve the game experience in many aspects for both PvP and PvE players but what's the point of having those lovely improvements if I can't stay logged in long enough to enjoy them...

MirkoZ

seems like we had another pts week ...