We want Locked-Non-Cp

DarkPicture

No, we dont want to, so another useless thread.

Lybal

When reading myself back, I feel like I wrote too fast and I'm a bit fuzzy in my reasoning, I'll try to make it more clear :


Right now, there will always be people that will suffer either from faction lock, or faction unlock

We can't really argue on which option is the best for the most people due to the lack of stats and numbers, anyone who try to argue on that will just be biased because he plays with players that share his pov, and polls on forums are meaningless.

Give 2 campaigns with different options will not fix the problem, I tried to explain that here :

People won't switch campaign depending of if it's locked or unlocked, some might do, but they're a minority, rest of the pvp population just don't chose depending if it's lock or not (it's part of their decision, but they take in account toons of other criteria).
Most people first want to play pvp, I don't mean player vs player fight, but just a map that is moving, people will always go to the campaign that is the most alive.

What will happen if you give players the choice is the actual non-cp campaign will always be the first to be chose, because people don't want to swap and spend AP to change campaign, because they know it's alive since they played in it before, because almost everyone else got the same reasoning so people go there, see that there is people and it's alive.

The other one will just remain dead all day, every day, until primetime come and there might be some players that, either because of the queue or the lag, will start to switch if they really want to.

That is exactly what happened with cp and the reason why it's empty.

Right now, I think that faction unlock is better cause people suffer more from it :

And while there's no real incentive for people to play for their faction, it'd be better to stay with faction unlock, not because most people prefer faction unlock, we can't know that anyway, but because people that dislike faction lock suffer from it much more that people who dislike faction unlocked, it's much more frustrating for them to be able to play very few characters and with 1/3 of their friendlist than a troll from time to time.

What I think would be the best is to give people incentives and rewards for playing their faction (and even pvp rewards in general btw), in order to create an environment where faction lock would be the best choice by giving people a reason to play for their faction and this way a reason to support faction lock, and that pass through scoring system at least, and the design of Cyrodiil itself.
There could also be, for players that actually created multiple characters on different factions, the option to change (only once) the faction of each character if they really want to, or stick with the actual situation and swap each month, or other ideas that I don't actually have.

Beardimus

iCaliban wrote: »

"We" do not want to faction locks. Thanks

Aside from the clear majority in CP who given a choice for the last 8 months have chosen the locked campaign, lol, that WE do seem to prefer it.

Anyhoo, agreed we need choice. A locked noCP is certainly needed on some platform over others as pop has a big difference (low pop = boosters)

I'd settle for a locked 7 day noCP right now. Handy on a Few fronts.

barney2525

Cirantille wrote: »

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This is not an I RP crazy or I die for my faction, loyalist etc thread. People can switch campaigns at the end anyway and we are all adults, so no one shall bully people play in different alliances.

But we would like to be able to feel achievement after investing our real-life hours into a game.

If I am working through my way to a scroll, I would like to be able to feel the sense of achievement, not to wate my time.

Before someone decides to troll with it, before someone decides to switch alliances day and night and prevent people from enjoying gameplay.

So be it, if people want non-locked no cp, they can stay and play there.

But we would like no-cp locked too.

No worries for EU non-cp is full, the campaigns will not be empty

If this a game play how you like, you shouldn't take our freedom and choice from us

We are all adults?

I dunno.... we are all physically grown to our optimum size maybe .....

but ALL adults ? ...... hmmmmmmm .... not sure on that one

IMHO

Cirantille

barney2525 wrote: »

Cirantille wrote: »

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This is not an I RP crazy or I die for my faction, loyalist etc thread. People can switch campaigns at the end anyway and we are all adults, so no one shall bully people play in different alliances.

But we would like to be able to feel achievement after investing our real-life hours into a game.

If I am working through my way to a scroll, I would like to be able to feel the sense of achievement, not to wate my time.

Before someone decides to troll with it, before someone decides to switch alliances day and night and prevent people from enjoying gameplay.

So be it, if people want non-locked no cp, they can stay and play there.

But we would like no-cp locked too.

No worries for EU non-cp is full, the campaigns will not be empty

If this a game play how you like, you shouldn't take our freedom and choice from us

We are all adults?

I dunno.... we are all physically grown to our optimum size maybe .....

but ALL adults ? ...... hmmmmmmm .... not sure on that one

IMHO

I just dont want to argue with people and lock the topic because of "derailment"

The only reason I started this because today I saw a post from a mod saying that they are looking for feedbacks so things can change in next chapter so I want them to hear me and people like me too

TheFM

You wanna know whats hilarious, the locked campaign is the most popular so far on pc eu. That back fired xD.

L2Pissue

Yes, Locked Non CP campaign is mandatory
most players who actually play the campaign itself and hate trolls are new players whom are (at most) not max CP.

Lybal

TheFM wrote: »

You wanna know whats hilarious, the locked campaign is the most popular so far on pc eu. That back fired xD.

Me : Try to argue and explain what it has nothing to do with players that prefer faction lock or faction unlocked and why it will do nothing else than creates another dead campaign.

People for faction lock : Ignore my argument

Me : *confused screaming*