Mag Templar build

Destyran

Hi I’m destyran and I have played magplar since console launch

I’m currently playing around with a build and was wondering how to improve it.

I’m a high elf I’m running
Bloodspawn
5x new moon (on body)
5x BTB (jewels lightning nirn SnB powered/impen)

Double bloody Mara food
The lady mundus
My bars are
Camo Hunter
Toppling
Degeneration
PL
Sweeps
crescent sweeps
Back bar
Extended
Honor the dead
Rune
Thorns bubble
Mist/barrage
Bats/spell shield

My combo is degen PL toppling jabs crescent

I use one recovery glyph and I have continuous up all the time but it still feels hit or miss I was thinking crafty alfiq instead of BTB and dragon guard instead of NMA what’s your opinion on fixing my build.

Destyran

I need The Meta sauce

Shaloknir

You have meta build I think. I use mothers sorrow to utilize 10 % crit passive.

Baconlad

*** that. Way too much sustain. Drop BTB for war maidens, slot deep thoughts for stamina gen and a bit of mag gen, restoration staff for more mag gen and massive honor the dead heals. Use three infused spell damage glyphs, slimecraw set.

If you feel you need mag regen then use max health/ magic regen or max magic/magic regen and atro.

XD
I don't like max mag and NMA is too good for honor the dead. So keep it on both bars. Better to hit honor the dead once and swap back offensive than twice. Only issue with my setup is that when fighting more than two players its hard to keep sustain up, which is why I run orzagas for my only sustain if I get dogpiled a lot. But 1v1 or 1v2 going max damage is super effective.

Akinos

Destyran wrote: »

I need The Meta sauce

You want a way to improve your already meta build? Stop meta chasing and think outside the box...you'll get better results.

Destyran

Akinos wrote: »

Destyran wrote: »

I need The Meta sauce

You want a way to improve your already meta build? Stop meta chasing and think outside the box...you'll get better results.

Well I just came back and started with shackle breaker and BTB I’m just trying to min max as I can tell from the lady mundus but I was thinking warmaiden and desert rose already but as @Baconlad mentioned it might be better going max damage dump also bacon lad if u run camo hunter it gives slime craw almost 100% of the time and I have NMA both bars for sure

Destyran

@Baconlad so warmaiden front VMA Resto back?

EtTuBrutus

What it's hit our miss to you? Typically that means you're making mistakes. Build can't remedy that much.

Destyran

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

What it's hit our miss to you? Typically that means you're making mistakes. Build can't remedy that much.

It feels good but not as good as it could be ^ and we fixed that problem above

Destyran

Baconlad wrote: »

*** that. Way too much sustain. Drop BTB for war maidens, slot deep thoughts for stamina gen and a bit of mag gen, restoration staff for more mag gen and massive honor the dead heals. Use three infused spell damage glyphs, slimecraw set.

If you feel you need mag regen then use max health/ magic regen or max magic/magic regen and atro.

XD
I don't like max mag and NMA is too good for honor the dead. So keep it on both bars. Better to hit honor the dead once and swap back offensive than twice. Only issue with my setup is that when fighting more than two players its hard to keep sustain up, which is why I run orzagas for my only sustain if I get dogpiled a lot. But 1v1 or 1v2 going max damage is super effective.

I feel like it hits way less than my current build and only has 29k mag didn’t enjoy it lmao

Iskiab

Destyran wrote: »

Baconlad wrote: »

*** that. Way too much sustain. Drop BTB for war maidens, slot deep thoughts for stamina gen and a bit of mag gen, restoration staff for more mag gen and massive honor the dead heals. Use three infused spell damage glyphs, slimecraw set.

If you feel you need mag regen then use max health/ magic regen or max magic/magic regen and atro.

XD
I don't like max mag and NMA is too good for honor the dead. So keep it on both bars. Better to hit honor the dead once and swap back offensive than twice. Only issue with my setup is that when fighting more than two players its hard to keep sustain up, which is why I run orzagas for my only sustain if I get dogpiled a lot. But 1v1 or 1v2 going max damage is super effective.

I feel like it hits way less than my current build and only has 29k mag didn’t enjoy it lmao

Magplar is best played going for max spell damage because you get minor sorcery from class passives. Mag’s great, don’t get me wrong, especially since some abilities only scale with mag, but in general you have to make sacrifices.

Destyran

Iskiab wrote: »

Destyran wrote: »

Baconlad wrote: »

*** that. Way too much sustain. Drop BTB for war maidens, slot deep thoughts for stamina gen and a bit of mag gen, restoration staff for more mag gen and massive honor the dead heals. Use three infused spell damage glyphs, slimecraw set.

If you feel you need mag regen then use max health/ magic regen or max magic/magic regen and atro.

XD
I don't like max mag and NMA is too good for honor the dead. So keep it on both bars. Better to hit honor the dead once and swap back offensive than twice. Only issue with my setup is that when fighting more than two players its hard to keep sustain up, which is why I run orzagas for my only sustain if I get dogpiled a lot. But 1v1 or 1v2 going max damage is super effective.

I feel like it hits way less than my current build and only has 29k mag didn’t enjoy it lmao

Magplar is best played going for max spell damage because you get minor sorcery from class passives. Mag’s great, don’t get me wrong, especially since some abilities only scale with mag, but in general you have to make sacrifices.

My current build has 3k unbuffed 40k mag 27k health 12k Stam max resists etc that build did not feel great I infused all the jewellery too and waste of stones

Drdeath20

Destyran wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Destyran wrote: »

Baconlad wrote: »

*** that. Way too much sustain. Drop BTB for war maidens, slot deep thoughts for stamina gen and a bit of mag gen, restoration staff for more mag gen and massive honor the dead heals. Use three infused spell damage glyphs, slimecraw set.

If you feel you need mag regen then use max health/ magic regen or max magic/magic regen and atro.

XD
I don't like max mag and NMA is too good for honor the dead. So keep it on both bars. Better to hit honor the dead once and swap back offensive than twice. Only issue with my setup is that when fighting more than two players its hard to keep sustain up, which is why I run orzagas for my only sustain if I get dogpiled a lot. But 1v1 or 1v2 going max damage is super effective.

I feel like it hits way less than my current build and only has 29k mag didn’t enjoy it lmao

Magplar is best played going for max spell damage because you get minor sorcery from class passives. Mag’s great, don’t get me wrong, especially since some abilities only scale with mag, but in general you have to make sacrifices.

My current build has 3k unbuffed 40k mag 27k health 12k Stam max resists etc that build did not feel great I infused all the jewellery too and waste of stones

You are a brave person. That is not alot of stamina. I had to boost my stamina up to 18k. Good players would lock me up too much.

Destyran

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Destyran wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Destyran wrote: »

Baconlad wrote: »

*** that. Way too much sustain. Drop BTB for war maidens, slot deep thoughts for stamina gen and a bit of mag gen, restoration staff for more mag gen and massive honor the dead heals. Use three infused spell damage glyphs, slimecraw set.

If you feel you need mag regen then use max health/ magic regen or max magic/magic regen and atro.

XD
I don't like max mag and NMA is too good for honor the dead. So keep it on both bars. Better to hit honor the dead once and swap back offensive than twice. Only issue with my setup is that when fighting more than two players its hard to keep sustain up, which is why I run orzagas for my only sustain if I get dogpiled a lot. But 1v1 or 1v2 going max damage is super effective.

I feel like it hits way less than my current build and only has 29k mag didn’t enjoy it lmao

Magplar is best played going for max spell damage because you get minor sorcery from class passives. Mag’s great, don’t get me wrong, especially since some abilities only scale with mag, but in general you have to make sacrifices.

My current build has 3k unbuffed 40k mag 27k health 12k Stam max resists etc that build did not feel great I infused all the jewellery too and waste of stones

You are a brave person. That is not alot of stamina. I had to boost my stamina up to 18k. Good players would lock me up too much.

If it calls I swap bloody Mara for spring loaded and I get 18k Stam 38k mag don’t really need Stam with the bubble or mist

xiZeroPointix

I run NMA all divines, spell strat front bar 2 infused 1 bloodthirsty and potentates resto back bar, slime scrow...GG

Drdeath20

Theres no 1 size fits all build. Try a few things out and see what works. You have to respect the trinity though. Damage, defense and recovery.

Drdeath20

Destyran wrote: »

Drdeath20 wrote: »

Destyran wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

Destyran wrote: »

Baconlad wrote: »

*** that. Way too much sustain. Drop BTB for war maidens, slot deep thoughts for stamina gen and a bit of mag gen, restoration staff for more mag gen and massive honor the dead heals. Use three infused spell damage glyphs, slimecraw set.

If you feel you need mag regen then use max health/ magic regen or max magic/magic regen and atro.

XD
I don't like max mag and NMA is too good for honor the dead. So keep it on both bars. Better to hit honor the dead once and swap back offensive than twice. Only issue with my setup is that when fighting more than two players its hard to keep sustain up, which is why I run orzagas for my only sustain if I get dogpiled a lot. But 1v1 or 1v2 going max damage is super effective.

I feel like it hits way less than my current build and only has 29k mag didn’t enjoy it lmao

Magplar is best played going for max spell damage because you get minor sorcery from class passives. Mag’s great, don’t get me wrong, especially since some abilities only scale with mag, but in general you have to make sacrifices.

My current build has 3k unbuffed 40k mag 27k health 12k Stam max resists etc that build did not feel great I infused all the jewellery too and waste of stones

You are a brave person. That is not alot of stamina. I had to boost my stamina up to 18k. Good players would lock me up too much.

If it calls I swap bloody Mara for spring loaded and I get 18k Stam 38k mag don’t really need Stam with the bubble or mist

Yeah thank god for tri foods!

JadonSky

I run Skoria, New Moon Acolyte, and Lich > 5 heavy 2 light. Destro/sword and board with tri-stat food. Iv been enjoying this build in both BG and CP cyro. Usally rank top in BG deathmatch and can 1v3 or so in Cyro no problem. Maglar has been my main for 4 years now.

Destyran

JadonSky wrote: »

I run Skoria, New Moon Acolyte, and Lich > 5 heavy 2 light. Destro/sword and board with tri-stat food. Iv been enjoying this build in both BG and CP cyro. Usally rank top in BG deathmatch and can 1v3 or so in Cyro no problem. Maglar has been my main for 4 years now.

I try to avoid proc 5 sets

SRASinister

I mean if you don't need recovery then just run Crafty and Spinners. I don't like running NMA on my mag characters. Also if you are not already then run a lightning destro front bar.

Destyran

SRASinister wrote: »

I mean if you don't need recovery then just run Crafty and Spinners. I don't like running NMA on my mag characters. Also if you are not already then run a lightning destro front bar.

My build hits harder than this wouldn’t use it

Iskiab

I mainly dps in BGs, so like a healing and damage mix. Think I run 10k stam and 1350 mag regen or something like that with NMA on my front bar.

I get away with it because I back bar a resto and heavy attack a lot, I like resto heavies the best. They give more resources plus major mending.

I get by with that much stam because I’m an Altmer which are awesome for Templars. If I’m immobilized I mist form, I usually block cancel it. It’s just like a dodge roll but costs less mag then it would in stamina. I never feel starved for stamina, moreso mag.

I think I’d be at 4k spell damage but I run 2 swift traits. They’re awesome. Otherwise those dizzies will keep landing and you get stuck block casting. Think I have 30k mag in no-CP. I also run the ritual mundus, helps a bit for survivability, and of course more healing, but I’m sacrificing damage.

Destyran

Iskiab wrote: »

I mainly dps in BGs, so like a healing and damage mix. Think I run 10k stam and 1350 mag regen or something like that with NMA on my front bar.

I get away with it because I back bar a resto and heavy attack a lot, I like resto heavies the best. They give more resources plus major mending.

I get by with that much stam because I’m an Altmer which are awesome for Templars. If I’m immobilized I mist form, I usually block cancel it. It’s just like a dodge roll but costs less mag then it would in stamina. I never feel starved for stamina, moreso mag.

I think I’d be at 4k spell damage but I run 2 swift traits. They’re awesome. Otherwise those dizzies will keep landing and you get stuck block casting. Think I have 30k mag in no-CP. I also run the ritual mundus, helps a bit for survivability, and of course more healing, but I’m sacrificing damage.

I was thinking swift traits too is there any footage of it in action I spent a lot of transmute on that war maiden

Iskiab

Destyran wrote: »

Iskiab wrote: »

I mainly dps in BGs, so like a healing and damage mix. Think I run 10k stam and 1350 mag regen or something like that with NMA on my front bar.

I get away with it because I back bar a resto and heavy attack a lot, I like resto heavies the best. They give more resources plus major mending.

I get by with that much stam because I’m an Altmer which are awesome for Templars. If I’m immobilized I mist form, I usually block cancel it. It’s just like a dodge roll but costs less mag then it would in stamina. I never feel starved for stamina, moreso mag.

I think I’d be at 4k spell damage but I run 2 swift traits. They’re awesome. Otherwise those dizzies will keep landing and you get stuck block casting. Think I have 30k mag in no-CP. I also run the ritual mundus, helps a bit for survivability, and of course more healing, but I’m sacrificing damage.

I was thinking swift traits too is there any footage of it in action I spent a lot of transmute on that war maiden

No sorry, I’ve never made a video. On all my mag builds for BGs I go 2x swift, well except magblade where I go 3x swift. If you try it I think 2x swift is the sweet spot.

Destyran

I’m still looking to get better no more ideas guys?

Dirt_Rooster

As far as bloodspawn goes, you have other options depending on what you like. I recommend trying out a 1 piece combo with resists, or one resist and one domihaus since you have low Stam. You don't need the ult gain when using crescent sweep, and you get a lot more value out of having 100% uptime on the resistances. Also, I'm not sure if you're using crit pots but be sure to try and add in some major prophecy to your build either using sun fire or inner light. You want the crit cause magplar gets a ton of crit damage and to ensure camo hunter procs. I would think about replacing living dark or solar barrage for that since you're already getting the minor sorc from PL. Just my 2 cents

P.S. I may be wrong here but I've never considered war maiden over nma cause I don't think it gets the benefit of major/minor sorc. I like to use mother's sorrow or spinners with nma usually for cp.

FirmamentOfStars

Dirt_Rooster wrote: »

As far as bloodspawn goes, you have other options depending on what you like. I recommend trying out a 1 piece combo with resists, or one resist and one domihaus since you have low Stam. You don't need the ult gain when using crescent sweep, and you get a lot more value out of having 100% uptime on the resistances. Also, I'm not sure if you're using crit pots but be sure to try and add in some major prophecy to your build either using sun fire or inner light. You want the crit cause magplar gets a ton of crit damage and to ensure camo hunter procs. I would think about replacing living dark or solar barrage for that since you're already getting the minor sorc from PL. Just my 2 cents

P.S. I may be wrong here but I've never considered war maiden over nma cause I don't think it gets the benefit of major/minor sorc. I like to use mother's sorrow or spinners with nma usually for cp.

Warmaiden does get buffed by major and minor sorcery.

On magplar i would not run bloodspawn, if you arent in heavy or wear defensive sets, since you cleanse many dots and therefor lower its procchance.
Two times a monsterset with one piece bonus of resistances provides you with more defense.

EtTuBrutus

SavageChain wrote: »

Dirt_Rooster wrote: »

As far as bloodspawn goes, you have other options depending on what you like. I recommend trying out a 1 piece combo with resists, or one resist and one domihaus since you have low Stam. You don't need the ult gain when using crescent sweep, and you get a lot more value out of having 100% uptime on the resistances. Also, I'm not sure if you're using crit pots but be sure to try and add in some major prophecy to your build either using sun fire or inner light. You want the crit cause magplar gets a ton of crit damage and to ensure camo hunter procs. I would think about replacing living dark or solar barrage for that since you're already getting the minor sorc from PL. Just my 2 cents

P.S. I may be wrong here but I've never considered war maiden over nma cause I don't think it gets the benefit of major/minor sorc. I like to use mother's sorrow or spinners with nma usually for cp.

Warmaiden does get buffed by major and minor sorcery.

On magplar i would not run bloodspawn, if you arent in heavy or wear defensive sets, since you cleanse many dots and therefor lower its procchance.
Two times a monsterset with one piece bonus of resistances provides you with more defense.

Bloodspawn works incredibly on templar.. what are you talking about.

Destyran

Yeah Bloodspawn helps with the rune changes and the ultimate gen is actually really useful for burst no matter what

FirmamentOfStars

EtTuBrutus wrote: »

SavageChain wrote: »

Dirt_Rooster wrote: »

As far as bloodspawn goes, you have other options depending on what you like. I recommend trying out a 1 piece combo with resists, or one resist and one domihaus since you have low Stam. You don't need the ult gain when using crescent sweep, and you get a lot more value out of having 100% uptime on the resistances. Also, I'm not sure if you're using crit pots but be sure to try and add in some major prophecy to your build either using sun fire or inner light. You want the crit cause magplar gets a ton of crit damage and to ensure camo hunter procs. I would think about replacing living dark or solar barrage for that since you're already getting the minor sorc from PL. Just my 2 cents

P.S. I may be wrong here but I've never considered war maiden over nma cause I don't think it gets the benefit of major/minor sorc. I like to use mother's sorrow or spinners with nma usually for cp.

Warmaiden does get buffed by major and minor sorcery.

On magplar i would not run bloodspawn, if you arent in heavy or wear defensive sets, since you cleanse many dots and therefor lower its procchance.
Two times a monsterset with one piece bonus of resistances provides you with more defense.

Bloodspawn works incredibly on templar.. what are you talking about.

Pls read again: i said i wouldnt recommend bloodspawn is primary and only defensive set on a light armor build. Yes, bloodspawn is incredible on pretty much every build. But you get the same resistances with 100% uptime with two different defensive monsterset pieces, meanwhile you lower the procchance of bloodspawn by cleansing. Therefore you would be very squishy outside of a proc, if you dont have any other defensive sets. As long as you have some built in tankyness, bloodspawn is very good.

maxjapank

Just started a new setup. Just a variation of stuff. And still need to practice it more. Transmutation Resto back bar, spinner destro front bar. 3 p willpower jewelry. 1 p monster heavy for armor resist. I’m Breton.