Molag Kena

llBlack_Heartll

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

ThePhantomThorn

yeah its kinda made for pvp

susmitds

No, it will already be great for PvP. It does not need to compete with Zaan. Making Kena BiS means nothing except Breton will remain competitive for magicka DPS. Zaan exists to give magicka a reason to go melee. In ranged trial like vAS+2, Zaan is useless.

llBlack_Heartll

susmitds wrote: »

No, it will already be great for PvP. It does not need to compete with Zaan. Making Kena BiS means nothing except Breton will remain competitive for magicka DPS. Zaan exists to give magicka a reason to go melee. In ranged trial like vAS+2, Zaan is useless.

Most of my Characters are Mag DPS, all are close range, I either run Zann, Grothdar or Ice Heart.
If I’m forced to play range, I just slot Skoria.
I’m not saying make it BIS but competitive.

Drdeath20

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

No, it will already be great for PvP. It does not need to compete with Zaan. Making Kena BiS means nothing except Breton will remain competitive for magicka DPS. Zaan exists to give magicka a reason to go melee. In ranged trial like vAS+2, Zaan is useless.

Most of my Characters are Mag DPS, all are close range, I either run Zann, Grothdar or Ice Heart.
If I’m forced to play range, I just slot Skoria.
I’m not saying make it BIS but competitive.

Its pretty great for burst. Definitely gonna be on alot of pvp builds yet still be pretty good for pve too.

Chibs

I miss the old Molag Kena, where two light attacks no matter what proc’d it (even if you casted an ability in between those light attacks). I wouldn’t mind going back to the old proc condition at all.

Septimus_Magna

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

The downside is that the effect wont be controllable anymore, this is mainly a disadvantage for the cost increase. The upside is that the effect will probably have a high uptime so you get a massive weapon/spell dmg buff for a 2-piece set.

I dont like the current requirement of Molag Kena because its not natural to light attack twice in a row. I used this set on my sorc with overload years ago, when the destro ult was introduced I tried to make it work (just to the buff ult and execute) but it wasnt worth it.

For stam builds I do wonder if Molag Kena with your proposed chance would work with a set like Vicious Serpent to balance out the cost increase.

llBlack_Heartll

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

The downside is that the effect wont be controllable anymore, this is mainly a disadvantage for the cost increase. The upside is that the effect will probably have a high uptime so you get a massive weapon/spell dmg buff for a 2-piece set.

I dont like the current requirement of Molag Kena because its not natural to light attack twice in a row. I used this set on my sorc with overload years ago, when the destro ult was introduced I tried to make it work (just to the buff ult and execute) but it wasnt worth it.

For stam builds I do wonder if Molag Kena with your proposed chance would work with a set like Vicious Serpent to balance out the cost increase.

Obviously it would need to be balanced, where it isn’t crazy over powered, the spell/weapon damage and uptime would need to be balanced.
But would be really good fun to have another Monster Set to think about using.

Beardimus

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

No thanks. Prefer the current change to that.

It would be good to reset to old proc condition though..

And give us 1000 ultimate back.

llBlack_Heartll

Beardimus wrote: »

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

No thanks. Prefer the current change to that.

It would be good to reset to old proc condition though..

And give us 1000 ultimate back.

Can’t even get 1000 ultimate dummy

kind_hero

I like the change made to this set. 20% was too much, now it is worth using it.

If you make it BiS, we won't need the other sets

Beardimus

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

No thanks. Prefer the current change to that.

It would be good to reset to old proc condition though..

And give us 1000 ultimate back.

Can’t even get 1000 ultimate dummy

....That's the point, but we used to. And with it this set was epic.

Fact check before you insult someone.... The fact that you didn't know that means you are missing a key use for this set lol

llBlack_Heartll

Beardimus wrote: »

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

No thanks. Prefer the current change to that.

It would be good to reset to old proc condition though..

And give us 1000 ultimate back.

Can’t even get 1000 ultimate dummy

....That's the point, but we used to. And with it this set was epic.

Fact check before you insult someone.... The fact that you didn't know that means you are missing a key use for this set lol

Reallly..... I didn’t know you were being sarcastic 🙃

Digiman

Thats an interesting change to make, most crafted DPS sets have both stamina and magicka, I don't see why this should be exclusive to magicka.

Lughlongarm

This set will be very good on WW for PVE as well. Aegis Caller + Blood drinker + Kena , On a WW, is a very easy to use build that can probably produce over 50k dps even by a novice doing dungeon with Pugs.

Kadoozy

Beardimus wrote: »

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

No thanks. Prefer the current change to that.

It would be good to reset to old proc condition though..

And give us 1000 ultimate back.

If only they went back to that. Issue would be balorgh. Though they could just cut the bonus down to regular ultimate cost instead of double the value. Would still be a significant nerf to that set though

luen79rwb17_ESO

Bring back the old weave-friendly Molag Kena, there's no other way to work around this set to be useful again.

Beardimus

Kadoozy wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

No thanks. Prefer the current change to that.

It would be good to reset to old proc condition though..

And give us 1000 ultimate back.

If only they went back to that. Issue would be balorgh. Though they could just cut the bonus down to regular ultimate cost instead of double the value. Would still be a significant nerf to that set though

Agreed. I lament the days you could unload 1000 and have full Magika back too. Had a 81k crit on vDSA buffed once.

That was pre the 50% nerf to power tho

I'll be using Kena for sure if it drops with 8%, will cost me on resistances I'll have to switch we jewellery traits or something but I'm gunna try to make it work.

Beardimus

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

After watching TheAsianGod’s video on Molag Kena changes, and how it’s still not going to preform close to what Zann can put out.

I’d like to propose a better change for the set -

1. Crit Bonus Spell & Weapon (833)

2. Dealing Critical Damage with a Light or Heavy Attack grants you over kill for 6 seconds, Increasing your Spell and Weapon Damage by X.

This can occur every X seconds, also increases your cost by X Amount.

What do you guys think?

No thanks. Prefer the current change to that.

It would be good to reset to old proc condition though..

And give us 1000 ultimate back.

Can’t even get 1000 ultimate dummy

....That's the point, but we used to. And with it this set was epic.

Fact check before you insult someone.... The fact that you didn't know that means you are missing a key use for this set lol

Reallly..... I didn’t know you were being sarcastic 🙃

I wasn't

Grandma

llBlack_Heartll wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

No, it will already be great for PvP. It does not need to compete with Zaan. Making Kena BiS means nothing except Breton will remain competitive for magicka DPS. Zaan exists to give magicka a reason to go melee. In ranged trial like vAS+2, Zaan is useless.

Most of my Characters are Mag DPS, all are close range, I either run Zann, Grothdar or Ice Heart.
If I’m forced to play range, I just slot Skoria.
I’m not saying make it BIS but competitive.

for range you'd get better results slotting 2 crit pieces [1 slimecraw and 1 iceheart for example], or using the upcoming kjalnar's nightmare monster set from the new dungeon.

Chrlynsch

Lughlongarm wrote: »

This set will be very good on WW for PVE as well. Aegis Caller + Blood drinker + Kena , On a WW, is a very easy to use build that can probably produce over 50k dps even by a novice doing dungeon with Pugs.

The changes to Kena barely improved werewolf pve dps. Aegis caller is good for mob fights and but don't bother messing with blood drinker. I'm guessing that set-up would only get you 45k dps.

Nord_Raseri

No, I use it as is.

Lughlongarm

Chrlynsch wrote: »

Lughlongarm wrote: »

This set will be very good on WW for PVE as well. Aegis Caller + Blood drinker + Kena , On a WW, is a very easy to use build that can probably produce over 50k dps even by a novice doing dungeon with Pugs.

The changes to Kena barely improved werewolf pve dps. Aegis caller is good for mob fights and but don't bother messing with blood drinker. I'm guessing that set-up would only get you 45k dps.

Dracane

I do like this change.
I am however torn, whether I prefer the old weaving proc condition or the current one. I tend to lean towards the current one; for pvp.