Turn Undead NEED TO GO

Tarrocan

Everyone spam this skill as hell, and this need to STOP. Its too Strong in PVP especially when this broken skill gives you already 8% Minor Protection and 10% Recovery, this fear need to go or it need a BIG REWORK! thank you for reading!

bye

GRXRG

I don't see it spammed that much to be honest, I see way more streaks, fossilizes, fears, vamp drains and leaps around followed by 10k + onslaughts.
And if you stay mobile you will see how turn undead will miss a lot and they are wasting 4.5k for nothing.
The other fears like mass hysteria are way stronger and more cancerous in my opinion.
Turn undead is maybe used just by stamsorcs probably they have no reliable class stun, other than that all other classes have better stuns.

Pauls

NB's fear just need additional bonus, like minor maim or minor breach + fracture, to be on par with turn undead.

ChunkyCat

phoenixkungfu

AOE, STUN AND UNBLOCKABLE. SHOLD NEVER BE IN THE SAME Skill

Damage, stun and aoe. Should also never be in one skill.

Gap closer, stun and damage. Should never be in the same skill.

It's just common sense

Wing

hmmmmmm

I see a lot of complaints about this, fossilize, drain, etc.

me thinks some rolly pollies are bad and mad they can be CC'd

learn

to

. . .play

MartiniDaniels

This ability could've been OP if game performance was perfect. In practice against fast moving opponent it is meh. So far I need to combine gap closer+turn evil or predict where opponent will be in next second and drop rune there, otherwise turn evil always miss.

TheBonesXXX

Stuns got too pruned, enough already.

Syrusthevirus187

Why would you care if they spam it on you

Kadoin

Someone really complaining about turn undead?

I'm not gon' lie I spam it on my mag DK when people running through breach or on an NB cloaking and running, but that's fair game because my stam pool is empty after using it, I swear!

Davadin

it costs a LOT and people break free out of it, and i rarely stay in the circle long enough to reap any benefit...

wait...

*double checks*

yup, PvP forum.

nobody's gonna stand still and people runs in a zerg. sure it CAN be effective and makes an impact, but it's nowhere near "game breaking" or "turning the tide of battle" level....

if Turn Undead annoys you, maybe reconsider your playstyle.

Sneakers

Agree with OP it is spammed and it de syncs the server. Often on your screen you are ANIMATION CCed just outside the circle.
It is the whole concept of an ANIMATION CC together with GCD and server tick rates that causes the perception of a de sync were your not experiencing the same thing at the same time.
Follow that up with a massive burst and you have a broken pvp experience.

Unfadingsilence

Honestly turn evil or even fear is truly a wasted ability UNLESS used as a defense ability only just like a snare removal on my Stamina NightBlade I have dropped both fear and shuffle just L2P and GG

MentalxHammer

Lol costs 4k stam and only hits stationary targets... not op at all

Metemsycosis

Skill is fine lag sucks moving on no offense to op

MartiniDaniels

phoenixkungfu wrote: »

AOE, STUN AND UNBLOCKABLE. SHOLD NEVER BE IN THE SAME Skill

Damage, stun and aoe. Should also never be in one skill.

Gap closer, stun and damage. Should never be in the same skill.

It's just common sense

So you suggest to nerf streak?
Cause it qualifies to all 3 combinations.

Kadoin

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

phoenixkungfu wrote: »

AOE, STUN AND UNBLOCKABLE. SHOLD NEVER BE IN THE SAME Skill

Damage, stun and aoe. Should also never be in one skill.

Gap closer, stun and damage. Should never be in the same skill.

It's just common sense

So you suggest to nerf streak?
Cause it qualifies to all 3 combinations.

NO. NOT STREAK. STREAK UNIQUE.

TimeDazzler

Sure once streak is blockable again

Dr_Ganknstein

Have you tried using it on them? Maybe try breaking free?

Grimlok_S

CC IS CHEAT!

With that out of the way, have you tried using it, hitting a moving target? You really have to be stacked on top of someone to get hit by this skill. Same goes for NB fear, I know I'm misplaying when I get hit by that.

idk

Make the players move out of it so it is wasted, Melee have to follow you and LoS range. Get your group using the same and turn the tides. Simple solutions that work.

UppGRAYxDD

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Skill is fine lag sucks moving on no offense to op

If it’s fine, then why not make a magicka morph?

idk

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Skill is fine lag sucks moving on no offense to op

If it’s fine, then why not make a magicka morph?

It does not really work that way. With that logic we would kill off most of the skills in the game. If Poison Injection is fine why not make a magicka morph. Sounds sort of messed up when perspective is added.

Lord-Otto

idk wrote: »

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Skill is fine lag sucks moving on no offense to op

If it’s fine, then why not make a magicka morph?

It does not really work that way. With that logic we would kill off most of the skills in the game. If Poison Injection is fine why not make a magicka morph. Sounds sort of messed up when perspective is added.

The question was not for Poison Injection, it was for Turn Evil alone. Answer, please.

xXMeowMeowXx

Sorry OP but turn undead is not a problem with it’s high cost and has never been an issue for any player I have known.

Not seeing this skill spammed either. I play PvP everyday for hours to relax after work or school.

darthgummibear_ESO

xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »

Sorry OP but turn undead is not a problem with it’s high cost and has never been an issue for any player I have known.

Not seeing this skill spammed either. I play PvP everyday for hours to relax after work or school.

Almost every match I've been in for the past few days has had at least 1 or 2 people spamming this crap all over the place. I don't know why I'm seeing it so much all of a sudden. I hardly ever saw it at all before a week ago.

Sneakers wrote: »

Agree with OP it is spammed and it de syncs the server. Often on your screen you are ANIMATION CCed just outside the circle.
It is the whole concept of an ANIMATION CC together with GCD and server tick rates that causes the perception of a de sync were your not experiencing the same thing at the same time.
Follow that up with a massive burst and you have a broken pvp experience.

Also this.

UppGRAYxDD

idk wrote: »

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Skill is fine lag sucks moving on no offense to op

If it’s fine, then why not make a magicka morph?

It does not really work that way. With that logic we would kill off most of the skills in the game. If Poison Injection is fine why not make a magicka morph. Sounds sort of messed up when perspective is added.

I’ll take a magicka poison inject too! Let’s break down the available NON-SKILL LINE STUNS next patch:

Stamina: dizzying swing, turn evil, and scatter shot. (Bow also gets a stun when you attack from stealth)

Magicka: flame reach, vamp drain(after 3 seconds of channeling)

See the difference? 3 instant hard CC’s compared to a “knock back” soft CC and a channeled one that has a delayed stun. So when people ask for a magicka morph of “turn evil”, Imo I feel it’s warranted and the logic behind the ask is warranted too...

SodanTok

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

idk wrote: »

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Skill is fine lag sucks moving on no offense to op

If it’s fine, then why not make a magicka morph?

It does not really work that way. With that logic we would kill off most of the skills in the game. If Poison Injection is fine why not make a magicka morph. Sounds sort of messed up when perspective is added.

I’ll take a magicka poison inject too! Let’s break down the available NON-SKILL LINE STUNS next patch:

Stamina: dizzying swing, turn evil, and scatter shot. (Bow also gets a stun when you attack from stealth)

Magicka: flame reach, vamp drain(after 3 seconds of channeling)

See the difference? 3 instant hard CC’s compared to a “knock back” soft CC and a channeled one that has a delayed stun. So when people ask for a magicka morph of “turn evil”, Imo I feel it’s warranted and the logic behind the ask is warranted too...

Wow so biased post. I dont even mind if there was magick turn evil but damn. Casually counting scatter shot as hard CC and calling destro reach soft CC while intentionally not mentioning any class CCs that are nearly exclusively magicka ones and cherry on top thinking bow has some unique stealth stun when thats just ingame mechanic of stealth attacks.

You can fight for you desires without making flat out wrong and biased posts. There should totally be nonclass magicka skill line turn evil it makes sense, 3 mag classes already have it in their skills anyway, wouldnt break the game in any way.

Kadoin

darthgummibear_ESO wrote: »

xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »

Sorry OP but turn undead is not a problem with it’s high cost and has never been an issue for any player I have known.

Not seeing this skill spammed either. I play PvP everyday for hours to relax after work or school.

Almost every match I've been in for the past few days has had at least 1 or 2 people spamming this crap all over the place. I don't know why I'm seeing it so much all of a sudden. I hardly ever saw it at all before a week ago.

Sneakers wrote: »

Agree with OP it is spammed and it de syncs the server. Often on your screen you are ANIMATION CCed just outside the circle.
It is the whole concept of an ANIMATION CC together with GCD and server tick rates that causes the perception of a de sync were your not experiencing the same thing at the same time.
Follow that up with a massive burst and you have a broken pvp experience.

Also this.

Because I have been spamming it for months in BGs and killing people with no counterplay, and yes that was on PC NA

Grimlok_S

UppGRAYxDD wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Skill is fine lag sucks moving on no offense to op

If it’s fine, then why not make a magicka morph?

Do you even nightblade?

Commandment

Why do people complain about stuns? I mean you can break of it easily, and you can't get cc'ed for a few seconds after. Now if you can get chained stunned. I would agree.