So... Just to be clear...
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✭✭✭✭✭I thought there was a new skill line?
They're redoing Vampire, giving it new abilities and a transformation Ultimate similar to Werewolves.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - The Clan
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Kahnak✭✭✭✭✭There are Mythic weapons and gear that are tied to the new Antiquities mini-game.Tombstone Reads: "Forgot to get good"1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I'm still in shock that this is what we're getting for a chapter feature.
The last few days have done very little to make me feel better about how much they are pricing this at and what you're getting in return.
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✭✭✭✭✭barbarian340 wrote: »There are no new powers or weapons this new chapter?
There's a new trial. There will probably be 3 or 4 new sets that come with the trial, 1 or 2 of which that will probably become the new BiS setup if past history holdsTenacious Dreamer - Hurricane Herald - Godslayer - Dawnbringer - Gryphon Heart - Tick Tock Tormenter - Immortal Redeemer - Dro-m'Athra DestroyerThe Unchained - Oathsworn - Bedlam's Disciple - Temporal Tempest - Curator's Champion - Fist of Tava - Invader's Bane - Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy - Zero Regrets - Battlespire's Best - Bastion Breaker - Ardent Bibliophile - Subterranean Smasher - Bane of Thorns - True Genius - In Defiance of Death - No Rest for the Wicked - Nature's Wrath - Undying Endurance - Relentless Raider - Depths Defier - Apex Predator - Pure Lunacy - Mountain God - Leave No Bone Unbroken - CoS/RoM/BF/FH Challenger65,385 achievement points2 -
barbarian340✭✭✭Wow... I really look forward to new powers .. every year I take a break to play other games and always come back to try out the new power... And we haven't had a new weapon line since launch.. very disappointing tbh... this seems more like a dlc than a new chapter4
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wild_kmacdb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭barbarian340 wrote: »Wow... I really look forward to new powers .. every year I take a break to play other games and always come back to try out the new power... And we haven't had a new weapon line since launch.. very disappointing tbh... this seems more like a dlc than a new chapter
Im sure there will be a big patch that will further homogenize existing skills into grey mush to whet your appetite.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Maybe we first can look what those mythic items would be and what will be drop rate before whining? Idk where you will find place on bars for all those new abilities you desire, even now you always need to make notable sacrifices and can't slot everything you want.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭barbarian340 wrote: »There are no new powers or weapons this new chapter?
Vampires get an overhaul as part of the base game, which will include new skills.1 -
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✭barbarian340 wrote: »There are no new powers or weapons this new chapter?
Vampires get an overhaul as part of the base game, which will include new skills.Contaminate wrote: »
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barbarian340✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »Maybe we first can look what those mythic items would be and what will be drop rate before whining? Idk where you will find place on bars for all those new abilities you desire, even now you always need to make notable sacrifices and can't slot everything you want.
Don't want new abilities on existing powers ..I want new powers..so what it talking about won't be an issue0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Contaminate wrote: »
Vampires get an overhaul as part of the base game, which will include new skills.barbarian340 wrote: »There are no new powers or weapons this new chapter?
That’s not a feature that’s a basic gameplay update
Which is why I made it clear that I was talking about the base game part of the chapter/update. It is all the same thing. We just don't have to pay for the vampire skill line.0 -
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✭✭Contaminate wrote: »
Vampires get an overhaul as part of the base game, which will include new skills.barbarian340 wrote: »There are no new powers or weapons this new chapter?
That’s not a feature that’s a basic gameplay update
Which is why I made it clear that I was talking about the base game part of the chapter/update. It is all the same thing. We just don't have to pay for the vampire skill line.
Which is completely irrelevant to the chapter, since it's not included as part of the chapter... if it doesn't come with the chapter, it can't be used to discuss the value of the chapter.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Contaminate wrote: »
Vampires get an overhaul as part of the base game, which will include new skills.barbarian340 wrote: »There are no new powers or weapons this new chapter?
That’s not a feature that’s a basic gameplay update
Which is why I made it clear that I was talking about the base game part of the chapter/update. It is all the same thing. We just don't have to pay for the vampire skill line.
Which is completely irrelevant to the chapter, since it's not included as part of the chapter... if it doesn't come with the chapter, it can't be used to discuss the value of the chapter.
However, since the question was not about the value of the paid portion of the chapter, but merely a loosely worded question about "new powers" in the chapter, it is a perfectly valid response. Especially since the answer was clarified with the fact that it is base game, meaning that we don't have to pay extra for it.0 -
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This is not true!!! One of them is to help you find the dirt.
The other is for digging.
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✭✭✭✭✭Well since we're already at the subject can someone tell me because I am not sure wheter that antiquities (or however it's called) thingy will be part of base game or will require a chapter to dig into ?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Well since we're already at the subject can someone tell me because I am not sure wheter that antiquities (or however it's called) thingy will be part of base game or will require a chapter to dig into ?
I'm not really sure. I've seen both stated (I think.... lordy there's just too many threads around lately) - so I'm just not sure.0 -
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The chapter seems to be more for the story and a new feature that adds new lore and content outside of just questing and pvp plus it adds a new item mechanic as well items so useful that you have to sacrifice set pieces for them. So I think they went with a more lore/roleplaying/Exploraton Focus because its different. While last year they went for a new class the year before that they went with the New Guild Skillline plus Jewelry crafting. While the year before that they went for a New Class plus more nostalgia theme.Contaminate wrote: »barbarian340 wrote: »There are no new powers or weapons this new chapter?
Vampires get an overhaul as part of the base game, which will include new skills.Contaminate wrote: »
It is good to see abilties added through base game. Because vampire right now is base game. I don't think the coding would allow them to hold back certain vampire abilties given the many issues they are having with performance because of all the coding. But another reason could be it would make look just plain greedy if vampires have some abilties they can use but can't use their full ability set. Since they didn't do that when they gave werewolf more abilties it would look bad. So that is why they are base game I believe.
The new chapter is the reason why we are getting the vampire overhaul though and three new vampire abilities plus ultimate rework. We won't see those abilties till they add in the chapter. They could have added them in now but they are waiting till the chapter. That way people might feel as if its part of that update and chapter. Saying we are not getting new skills that we have to pay for is kinda misleading. Those who buy the chapter are giving them the monies worth for adding those new skills. Oh I'm sure they found a way to make these new Mythic items desirable so people actually do buy it to give them the monies worth for adding those new features. I'm sure they have that covered.
Other then the new vampire abilties going by what Rich has said I have the Impression they are holding back adding new abilties placing them on the back burner like the Undaunted Ultimate. Until they till they can get combat performance overhaul completed along with fully reworking the Cp System to better the games performance . This could be the reason for no new combat skill lines given they want to fix performance before they do all that.
Adding more will just add to the Strain on the software. I think this is the reason why they are not doing the sword and rune skill line as well. Only reason why they are updating vampire is because of the theme and they want to make them better and less like a passive buff but make them vampires but because its also an existing skill line they can work with. All they are doing is reworking it like they did werewolf and changing the Batswarm into the New Bloodscion/Vampire lord Transformation they are putting in and then adding three new abilties to the skill line. While possibly building in the batswarm ultimate into the transformation. I do think that might be what we are going to see here. Even though its being done through base game its still new content. At least we are getting it.
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✭Sylvermynx wrote: »Well since we're already at the subject can someone tell me because I am not sure wheter that antiquities (or however it's called) thingy will be part of base game or will require a chapter to dig into ?
I'm not really sure. I've seen both stated (I think.... lordy there's just too many threads around lately) - so I'm just not sure.
I would assume that they must be base game because in the Alcast article I read about them, it said they were hoping to keep building on this system as time went. They generally don't expand upon systems or things added by DLC or Expansions, only things everybody has access to. So if they do plan to keep expanding, logic dictates its something everybody gets.
Not like the dang grappling bow we'll probably never see again... wasted fun potential *sigh*
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Indoril_Nerevar✭✭✭I wouldn't normally agree with the Telvanni.
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