We never asked to remove premades from battlegrounds, we asked for 2 separate queues. One for when you want to run solo, one for playing with and against premades
Some guilds routinely arrange 3 teams in order to play against one another in battlegrounds.
Kill group play
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Some guilds routinely arrange 3 teams in order to play against one another in battlegrounds.
Wasn't there still a chance those three teams wouldn't be matched up in the same game anyway, @iCaliban?
You still have to go through the BG queue after all ...Kill group play
Battlegrounds will still be group play ... it's still 4 x 4 x 4. You're just not often playing on the same team as friends or guildies (which ZOS has acknowledged in the patch notes).
Though I'm indifferent about the PTS change ... it does appear there are some holes in your argument to oppose it.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »Some guilds routinely arrange 3 teams in order to play against one another in battlegrounds.
Wasn't there still a chance those three teams wouldn't be matched up in the same game anyway, @iCaliban?
You still have to go through the BG queue after all ...Kill group play
Battlegrounds will still be group play ... it's still 4 x 4 x 4. You're just not often playing on the same team as friends or guildies (which ZOS has acknowledged in the patch notes).
Though I'm indifferent about the PTS change ... it does appear there are some holes in your argument to oppose it.
I would like a lobby system, but also a competitive queue system that allows both solo and group (in case soloers want to solo queue in it) and a solo-only queue. I would prefer the two queues than the lobby if we had to choose, as it may not be easy for some of us to find lobbies to organize pvp games, and a competitive mode would do that for us. But this is a preference to no ability to play as a group at all....
That would be nice if we can make 3 teams with 4 ppl and play vs each other.
Skipping queue time and playing competitive games with guild members will be really nice. Most dedicated BG players play BGs because of fun and not because of rewards so it could be quite popular for community to organize such matcches.
Two separate queues would not work. As it stands right now, there is almost never more than 1 four man team at any given time. Wait times would be well over an hour at which point most players would simply not bother.
We know this because the current system does preferentially match premades together. And when we queue as multiple teams we usually have little issue matching eachother. Which would not happen if other premades were plentiful and in queue. Primetime on the weekends
Two separate queues would not work. As it stands right now, there is almost never more than 1 four man team at any given time. Wait times would be well over an hour at which point most players would simply not bother.
We know this because the current system does preferentially match premades together. And when we queue as multiple teams we usually have little issue matching eachother. Which would not happen if other premades were plentiful and in queue. Primetime on the weekends
I'm not saying "premade only" as in 4 player groups in the group queue. I consider duos to be a group as well, and I think there are enough people to fill a single-and-group-queue and a singles only queue, because A LOT of players do duos.
Two separate queues would not work. As it stands right now, there is almost never more than 1 four man team at any given time. Wait times would be well over an hour at which point most players would simply not bother.
We know this because the current system does preferentially match premades together. And when we queue as multiple teams we usually have little issue matching eachother. Which would not happen if other premades were plentiful and in queue. Primetime on the weekends
I'm not saying "premade only" as in 4 player groups in the group queue. I consider duos to be a group as well, and I think there are enough people to fill a single-and-group-queue and a singles only queue, because A LOT of players do duos.
There are other issues with a group only system, say there is one trio, one premade and one duo available. How would system fill it if it can't pull solo players?
Far easier to give us a way to do custom matches. Or even group dueling