SypherPK at ESO event?

Sandman929 · January 14

Anyone know why? A PvP streamer who finally gave up on ESO PvP a long time ago and has been very successfully streaming not-ESO for a long time? Are they gonna shove Deltia out on the stage as well and say "Remember him? He used to like us too"? If there's going to be a streamer representing PvP (which maybe I'm just assuming that's what this is) shouldn't it be someone who streams the game and plays PvP?

Weird, weird guest at an Elder Scrolls event. Great gamer, great streamer, but he doesn't do either in ESO.

Dojohoda · January 14

Possibly to draw in players, new and old, to eso. Just now, he has approximately 3.6k viewers on a non-eso game. I really can't say, but that is my guess. Either way, it's a good way to get the word out.

NeillMcAttack · January 14

I don’t know the specifics of him attending, or if he even is, like was he invited or just want to attend himself, but it makes sense if he was invited from a marketing perspective. Considering he has a different audience than say Fengrush and others that stream ESO PvP full time almost, it would be advantageous to want to introduce the game to new players if he was to talk about it on stream or via tweets.

mav1234 · January 14

He was streaming ESO a bit last week or so if I recall.

But I don't understand going with him over some of the other streamers... Perhaps he has a friendlier relationship with ZOS despite no longer playing the game regularly than some of the bigger names in ESO content creation?

Beardimus · January 14

Sandman929 wrote: »

Anyone know why? A PvP streamer who finally gave up on ESO PvP a long time ago and has been very successfully streaming not-ESO for a long time? Are they gonna shove Deltia out on the stage as well and say "Remember him? He used to like us too"? If there's going to be a streamer representing PvP (which maybe I'm just assuming that's what this is) shouldn't it be someone who streams the game and plays PvP?

Weird, weird guest at an Elder Scrolls event. Great gamer, great streamer, but he doesn't do either in ESO.

It's business, pure and simple.

rumple9 · January 14

That's where your sub money goes instead of fixing the servers

Acrolas · January 14

rumple9 wrote: »

That's where your sub money goes instead of fixing the servers

Again, Bethesda handles marketing and promotions, not ZOS. That is money 100% intended for only marketing and promotions and will never ever in the history of ever transfer to another department in another company to throw at a problem. That's not how corporate budgets work.

SpacemanSpiff1 · January 14

Sandman929 wrote: »

Anyone know why?

Hype and eyeballs.

MattT1988 · January 14

Who?

ShawnLaRock · January 14

MattT1988 wrote: »

Who?

Exactly.

The guy they SHOULD have - who represents the PVP side of the community more than, well... ANYONE - has more viewers ATM, than all other Stream Team members combined during an event with drops on.

It’s weird that they are still trying to represent this side of the game... buuuuut with someone who isn’t even playing anymore.

S.

vestahls · January 14

Yeah, he's a literal who for me as well.

With Deltia gone, the first PVPers that come to my mind are Dottz and Fengrush. But it's possible they can't make it to Vegas? I find it hard to think they weren't invited, so I can only imagine SypherPK is just the only guy who said yes.

Vorpan · January 14

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

I don’t know the specifics of him attending, or if he even is, like was he invited or just want to attend himself, but it makes sense if he was invited from a marketing perspective. Considering he has a different audience than say Fengrush and others that stream ESO PvP full time almost, it would be advantageous to want to introduce the game to new players if he was to talk about it on stream or via tweets.

He's being paid to attend. It does make sense from a marketing perspective, I agree, but it also seems somewhat wrong not to also invite those who stream and play their game. ESO has some great streamers.

Kel · January 14

That they would invite someone so far out from actually playing the game shows how out of touch they are with PvP in general.

Either that or they don't want to risk someone who currently plays to tell an honest truth about how awful the performance is.

Either way, it's completely baffling why they'd bring in an ex player who's maybe played ESO a handful of times in the last few years. Not really a message I'd figure they'd want to put out..."Here's someone who quit our game years ago! Surely his words hold weight even though he quit a few years ago!"
It's crazy.

Plenty of other active streamers to choose from.

Knightpanther · January 14

Who gives a fu** about streamers?

Be safe

Royaji · January 14

Just from the marketing standpoint I can see the reasoning. What's the point of inviting streamers already heavily invested into ESO? Their audience is already going to be interested anyway. On the other hand, inviting someone who has a lot of following but is not really focused on ESO is bound to put the game on the radar for a lot of people who weren't previously interested/aware.

And considering Deltia, I'm pretty sure that if ZOS were to tell him how good of a spot templars got this patch he would be rushing to the shed to grab a shovel and start digging that templar out. With his current form it won't be a difficult task either.

akl77 · January 14

Well, he’s famous now, from other games not eso. But if ninja the Fortnite player gonna show up on eso event, it’ll attract more people to wanna go, despite he plays eso or not. Same logic imo.
Can ZOS afford ninja to come, prob not, but sypher yea, not impossible

Kalante · January 14

Sypher is the only popular streamer that at least knows remotely something about eso. He can make it look interesting for his viewers.

JumpmanLane · January 14

Performance is so bad PvP just doesn’t “play” the way it’s advertised. Paying Sypher to play it and hype PvP up borders on false advertisement lol, unless he plays at primetime and they leave all the crashing, stuck in combats, inability to swap bars, lag and more lag in Lol.

Sandman929 · January 15

Sure they're paying Sypher and he absolutely should take that, but even he had to wonder at some point "Why me?".
ESO is very far in his rear view.
I don't think he's gonna be a shill, and I don't know what he could honestly say having been removed for so long. I guess we'll find out, it just seemed so weird.

Haquor · January 15

ShawnLaRock wrote: »

MattT1988 wrote: »

Who?

Exactly.

The guy they SHOULD have - who represents the PVP side of the community more than, well... ANYONE - has more viewers ATM, than all other Stream Team members combined during an event with drops on.

It’s weird that they are still trying to represent this side of the game... buuuuut with someone who isn’t even playing anymore.

S.

Sounds likely that the guy they 'SHOULD' have is likely being viewed by people who already watch/play ESO.

I have a sneaking suspicion that from a marketing perspective they would consider the value in being exposed to a wider audience/player base.

Just a thought.

The_Old_Goat · January 15

Why do you even care? Just move on.

Sandman929 · January 15

The_Old_Goat wrote: »

Why do you even care? Just move on.

Maybe community forums aren't for you.

ShawnLaRock · January 15

Royaji wrote: »

Just from the marketing standpoint I can see the reasoning. What's the point of inviting streamers already heavily invested into ESO? Their audience is already going to be interested anyway.

I’d say that if even if only 75% of the people interested in watching the stream on any given day bought the new $60 Chapter, it’d be a 200k+ R.O.that.I.

It’s just a really strange thing to treat in this manner, IMHO.

S.

nolangrady · January 15

FENGRUSH or bust..... End thread

BaiterOfZergs · January 15

Who cares really? How many streamers have been brought on that never even played the game at all ? This is only a “problem “ because it’s Sypher, we never see these conversations any other time when some random streamer is streaming eso.

Unfadingsilence · January 15

nolangrady wrote: »

FENGRUSH or bust..... End thread

Definitely but it's a money move tbh and let's face it even tho fengrush is ESO he is not as famous as sypherpk

Unfadingsilence · January 15

BaiterOfZergs wrote: »

Who cares really? How many streamers have been brought on that never even played the game at all ? This is only a “problem “ because it’s Sypher, we never see these conversations any other time when some random streamer is streaming eso.

Alot of people are upset that he made the smart move and moved on from ESO after becoming such a huge part of the community but let's be real he was streaming full time and doing youtube as well he has done so much for the community and let's face it he went on to something that made him real $$$ like honestly he was probably only making 25k-50k a year playing ESO and youtube video to him now playing fortnite making millions so good job on him and good job on ZOS asking him or even paying him to do the event because let's face it he was the best pick they could have made. Yep sure they could ask ninja and paid him big bank but for what? To log onto some brand new toon zero CP and hope into pvp just to get smashed on? 🤦‍♂️ sypher is max CP played the game for 5 years and still plays it off and on even when not streaming so he is still in the loop and still has a following that can help him out if need be. So if anything all its gonna do is bring new people to the game which brings more $$$ to ZOS and further there game....

GG NO RE

Gilvoth · January 15

The_Old_Goat wrote: »

Why do you even care? Just move on.

well said,
all truth.
most of the problems we have Resolved in eso was created from the older-day years ago streamers playstyles.
we finally are no longer involved with that type of thinking, and it shows in the advancements of builds and playstyles far better than what we knew existed, and starting to create our own new way of playstyles in eso.
especially in pvp. allowing people to learn pvp and pve multiple builds and fighting styles ingame instead of cookie cutter playstyles and builds. we now instead make our own builds and learning to think how to fight better without those influences that destroyed most of what the developers intended. it took years to change the problems that were created.

UrbanMonk · January 15

If anyone should be streaming it has to be Current PVP streamers. Yes Sypher has 2mil+ following and I used to watch him but still makes no sense why would they invite someone who has been out of game for too long unless he is making a comeback.
PVP in ESO for me is definitely better than those bananas hopping in Fortnite.

Vanos444 · January 15

nolangrady wrote: »

FENGRUSH or bust..... End thread

Frengrush rants ESO alot and the relationship btw he and ZoS is low.
They will never take him because he isn't a bootlicker.

Lisutaris · January 15

Who?

Are there rly ppl enjoying pvp and not just grabbing transmute crystals? You have my respect., thats pretty hardcore.