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I feel like I'm the only ESO player who didn't play Skyrim...

  • gatekeeper13
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    Skyrim is a lot better than ESO. The reason I play ESO is because I was seeking a substitute for it, since I ve finished all its content (plus huge mods like Vigilant etc) numerous times and there was nothing more for me to do there. No more content is coming out.

    Oblivion was even better, though a bit dated. Love the story and atmosphere.

    Many insist that Morrowind is the best of them all. Havent finished it.
    Edited by gatekeeper13 on January 14, 2020 10:28AM
  • Canasta
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    After playing ESO for so long I found many of the races looked very different in Skyrim when I tried it, without any mods.

    I think they all look far better in ESO. Especially the Khajiit.
  • Deathlord92
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    Skyrim is amazing and well worth the money I’d recommend it to anyone who loves RPG.
  • vestahls
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    If you could play the Morrowind chapter without having played the game Morrowind, you'll probably have the same experience. Sure, there might be references which you miss out on, but it won't make that big of an impact.

    But if you can, you really should play Skyrim. Like others have said, there's a reason it's still being played a decade on. I too only started playing ESO when I ran out of content and mods in Skyrim, and was looking for a substitute.
    It made a really big impact on a whole generation of players and it's one of the standards against which other games are held (including ESO).

    Morrowind and Oblivion have their own value, but Skyrim is the most accessible due to its recency.
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    I always envy people who somehow didn't played games like Skyrim, Mass Effect 2, Witcher 3 etc... I wish to reset my memory and start playing them again like first time.
  • perolord
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    Minyassa wrote: »
    I'm a latecomer to the franchise, I just didn't have the money for video games until ESO and it feels like everyone (including the devs, now) expects me to have played it. I'm a little worried that I'm going to miss out on info about the new chapter based on experience they think I have that I don't. Is there some major difference between this game's setting and Skyrim's besides the era it's set in?

    I did not play it also... i mainly play online/mmorpg games..., the only solo stories i remember recently are GTA5 and RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2...

    Other than that..nothing =)
  • jlboozer
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Lets just say a LOT happens in the next 1,000 years between 2E 583 and 4E 201. So much so that the only real connections the next chapter is gonna have, will be names and places. It would be ridiculous to tie the story to TES:V at all.

    The only thing i think you dont know about that may come up in the next chapter, is Blackreach. Its s massive subterranean cavern underneath Skyrim that the Falmer live in. The Falmer are blind, barbaric descendants of the Snow Elves.

    I believe Serana is also alive at this time, there's a chance we could see her.
  • xxthir13enxx
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    TBH... your probably better off not having played it...

    The upcoming addition is not going to be
    Our Skyrim...
    So it’ll be easier for you to adjust than it will be for us...
    I suspect that there may be a few EasterEgg jokes you may not get...but otherwise it’ll be just like any other new content for you
  • bakthi
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    I have played quite a few games that I would say are better in many respects than Skyrim (Outer Worlds, Fallout NV, VTM: Bloodlines, FFVI, FF Tactics, Disgaea). But I have sunk the most number of hours into Skyrim.

    Play it, yes, but play it with mods. Like, immediately. I did get it for the Switch, because hey, portable Skyrim, but I probably should have just stuck to playing BotW because hurrgh. Hard to go back to accidentally stealing things left and right, and having townspeople die because they tried to fight a vampire or a dragon with a skillet. I don't care much about any of the cosmetic mods, but mods like Alternate Start and Cutting Room Floor are just wonderful, and the amount of work that goes into mods like Inigo, Helgen Reborn, or The Wheels of Lull is just amazing.

    This is a good starting point:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/wiki/essential_mods

    but I would consider Run For Your Lives and BlockSteal essential as well (as you might imagine, I run a similar add-on to BlockSteal for ESO).
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  • technohic
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    I played it, but never got very far. I actually get bored by open world PvE games and after a few delves that start with bandits and end with Draugers; I'm pretty much done. The overland NPC random interactions though were really cool.
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    In other words
    If a *** site is ever down, just get some specific Skyrim mods
  • Thevampirenight
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    Well to go into more detail. What Elder Scrolls Five was about,
    Dragonborn the hero is just some illegial border crosser that gets captured along with the stormcloak rebels like the rebels the imperial female commander desides you are going to join their fate onto the chopping block. a soldier in front of you gets beheaded and you are next. Then you are placed on the choping block a roar happens and The major major most threatening bad to the world enters. Alduin the World eater he scorches the location your at you have to run. Eventually you got a choice to go with the stormcloaks or the imperials going with a choice to go with an imperial solider or a stormcloak one in order to escape both will take you to the next stage of the questline after going through the keep to escape the dragon whcih is in Riverwood then head for white run to warn the folks of that city then it all goes from there. Like I mentioned before SKyrim is in Cival War which was almost ended if not for Alduin which allowed the main cause of the war to escape Ulfric Stormcloak. The player has an option to take part and take sides or stay out of it siding with Ulfric or the Empire. Stay out of and it becomes part of the main questline in like a tempoary truce so you can do something involving a key dragon. The Last Dragonborn is the only one who can stop the World Eater and because of this is the only one that can stop the literal end of the world.

    The Dlc Dawnguard deals with another threat a vampire. But you have choices as well but the ending remains the exact same. The main vampire gets defeated. You get a vampiric companion no matter which side you choose dawnguard or Volkihar vampires. Can serve harkons court but basically remain loyal to yourself and Serana or help the vampire hunters stop the Volkihar. Either way the outcome's the same but it was a very well put together dlc. Also it added the vampire lord and crossbows. Vampire lord was something of a unique Vampiric transformation. Into a being that is somewhat like Marcus from Underworld 2. A bat like vampiric humaniod form. Male looked cool they could have done better on the female model I think. Vampire lord was a toggle transformation in that you can stay in that form indefinably unlike the werewolf which didn't have that and can only last for so long till transform back. Another thing about the dlc was learning about the Snow Elves as well and meeting a couple of them.

    Dragonborn basically was a follow up. Or tie into your nature as dragonborn where you get attacked by cultists serving the very first dragonborn the counterpart to you basically and you have to face him plus it involved the realm of Herma Mora and also added other things like Morrowind content. Dark Elves were given the Island of solstheim after the events that basically destroyed or ruined Vvardenfell giving its proximity half of it is covered in ash during this time period the climate is different. Half of it Snowy and cold other half Ashy and covered in Ash like Vvardenfell.
    Then you have the skaal which are nords that have a unique view point they were also in Morrowind blood Moon since this was a dlc location in Elder Scrolls Three. The most interesting parts were the blackbooks the An encentric powerful Telvanni wizard. Heart Stones and what they could do. New shouts were also added. Among other things werebears were added to that dlc but they were not playable a mistake in my opinion spears were added to the goblin like creatures but not made playable just used as arrows by the dragonborn. Apocrypha was a realm of dark poisonous waters, tentacles everywhere, books tack upon books all over the place. Which was really cool and well done you had to deal with Hermanus mora himself. Throughout it and other stuff like that.

    Arrow in the Knee meme came from this game.
    Did someone steal your sweet roll.
    Curved Swords redguard meme came from this game.
    Other memes and things too came from this game but those were the most notable. First game where you actually meet the previous hero of the game before it but only as a daedric prince since by that time they have become the full on prince.
    Other things daedric quests were much darker then the previous titles. Much more mature rating giving way to much more mature content.

    Like I mentioned before the popularity of Game of thrones from what I gathered and read played into Skyrim's Success despite all its bugs and issues. The ability to make your own content or download mods others have made was some of the other factors in its long success and playablity. Players even still play it today. If the other games didn't get it into the spotlight that gets it mentioned in Tv Shows Skyrim Sure did. I've seen references to it in tv shows like Supernatural and Ncis. if you see an arrow in a knee somewhere in a game or movie its likely That line in Skyrim that is the reason why they placed it there. One movie I watched recently called Broken Sword or something an entire movie shot in a barn entire plot was in a barn one person gets shot in the knee with an arrow. So it effects can be felt even today.

    So if you wonder why people seem to be more obsessed about it. It just the way it has contributed to culture along with its popularity and success. Bethesda made a mistake not doing more content and adding to it when they could have instead they abandoned it. To move on to the next thing. A big mistake in my opinion they could have placed in at least two more dlcs and they would have expanded onto the game. Which is something they could go back and do now if they were willing. I think players would flock back to Skyrim in numbers to play them.

    Edited by Thevampirenight on January 14, 2020 1:55PM
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  • January1171
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    I'm sure they are going to play up the nostalgia/references, but I'm also sure that it won't be anything that will leave you lost without knowing. It'll just be easter eggs that you won't even know are there without knowing skyrim first.
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    jlboozer wrote: »
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Lets just say a LOT happens in the next 1,000 years between 2E 583 and 4E 201. So much so that the only real connections the next chapter is gonna have, will be names and places. It would be ridiculous to tie the story to TES:V at all.

    The only thing i think you dont know about that may come up in the next chapter, is Blackreach. Its s massive subterranean cavern underneath Skyrim that the Falmer live in. The Falmer are blind, barbaric descendants of the Snow Elves.

    I believe Serana is also alive at this time, there's a chance we could see her.
    Yes she is alive but is locked away and has been for an very long time. She did not even knew about the empire so she was not out at the ESO times.

    Now if she had said it also was an civil war then she was locked away, then yes she could have been in ESO.
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  • Thevampirenight
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    I'm sure they are going to play up the nostalgia/references, but I'm also sure that it won't be anything that will leave you lost without knowing. It'll just be easter eggs that you won't even know are there without knowing skyrim first.

    I can imagine seeing some town guard or maybe some adventuerer stuck somewhere with an arrow in a knee I can see that and maybe that adventuer telling the vestiage all right I can't take this anymore I'm going to go apply to be a guard. Totally could see an easter egg like that being added in. As we all know guards arrows and Kness.

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  • Sylvermynx
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    mocap wrote: »
    i suggest you to play. Oh and in such case, i think you will be definitely the first one who will play Skyrim in 3rd person view xd

    Nope. I play Skyrim in 3rd-person.
    I'm not a fan of first-person perspective in video games, and won't play games that are first-person only.

    Agreed. I really dislike (to the point I won't play) games in FP. In ESO, the only time I do FP is to get past some idiot's bear or flappy to find the activator text.
  • Turelus
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    I've met others who played ESO before playing Skyrim or have still yet to play any TES game apart from ESO.

    In theory you shouldn't miss out anything by not playing Skyrim, it would only be nods to characters or events which wouldn't matter if you didn't pick up.
    They can't really reference Skyrim's gameplay because this is set in events before the game, at most maybe we will cause some of the events which are referenced in the game and you may miss some satisfaction of that knowledge but not much else.
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  • Veinblood1965
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    Agreed with the other posts. I rarely play a game twice after completing it and I've played Skyrim over about three or four times. It's seriously without a doubt the best solo player game out there even though it's old. If you haven't played it do so, you won't regret it.
  • Sylvermynx
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    I'm still playing both Skyrim and Oblivion, and a little Morrowind though the graphics and animations are so antique it's painful. I wanted to try Daggerfall again (I loved that game so much....) but I can't stand the graphics and gameplay....
  • Toanis
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    ESO has its moments of fan service where you meet some of the long-lived figures from other games in their younger years, but otherwise there isn't really anything you need to know from the single player games. Just like the single player games ESO often assumes your character is part of the world and knows its lore, and expects the player to learn it by reading all the books.

    If you want to play another TES game, then Skyrim is a good choice, it's not the best game of the series, IMO, but the others haven't aged well.
  • MEBengalsFan2001
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    Minyassa wrote: »
    I'm a latecomer to the franchise, I just didn't have the money for video games until ESO and it feels like everyone (including the devs, now) expects me to have played it. I'm a little worried that I'm going to miss out on info about the new chapter based on experience they think I have that I don't. Is there some major difference between this game's setting and Skyrim's besides the era it's set in?

    I played the original two TES game when they launched on PC. I have not touched any other TES game since until 2015 when ESO launched on PS4. I don't really enjoy solo play open world games, but I do enjoy a MMO (mainly to meet people and do group content).

    I prefer games where there is a party and group interaction such as the BG games, DA games, etc... It is the same reason why I don't like the Witcher games, it is solo play without a group party.
    Edited by MEBengalsFan2001 on January 14, 2020 2:36PM
  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    why would you have to play skyrim? eso happens long before that game's plot. you wont be missing out on anything that hasnt happened yet.

    i've played it a few times. it's good, but not he masterpiece some folks make it out to be. (i suspect a lot the popularity has to do with mods bordering on softcore ***)
    the gameplay and main quest were fine. the guild quests had some questionable choices. it was also buggy as hell. I had an issue early on with dead bodies not de-spawning and crashing the game.
  • Xvorg
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    I'm still playing both Skyrim and Oblivion, and a little Morrowind though the graphics and animations are so antique it's painful. I wanted to try Daggerfall again (I loved that game so much....) but I can't stand the graphics and gameplay....

    Don't you use Morrowind Overhaul? It makes the whole experience much better.

    In any case, Morrowind story trumps over Oblivion, as Oblivion story trumps over Skyrim, but...

    - Combat and Magic in Morrowind are awful (except for the scrolls like divine/almsivi intervention, and alchemy).
    - Combat in Oblivion is meh, but magic is uber awesome (you can create your own spells and enchant weapons with any spell, on the other hand, is the only game in which you can build a decent unarmed char).
    - Combat in Skyrim is awesome, while magic is meh.

    In any case, if you want to experience Morrowind and Oblivion with the Skyrim engine, just wait for Skywind and Skyblivion
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  • ghastley
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    If you don't play the games, at least read all the lorebooks. A lot of them that don't deal with events that haven't happened yet are in ESO, too. The "later" ones from the earlier games can be found at UESP or the Imperial Library.
  • PopotoSalad
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    Nyladreas wrote: »
    That's horrible. 😱🤮

    Try a more subtle character mod like Total Character Makeover or Diversity.

  • Prof_Bawbag
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    PLAY it - skyrim se with some graphics and utility mods is still an AMAZING game and i think one of the games you HAVE to play - imo clearly game of the decade.

    There will certainly be some nostalgia built into the chapter but i dont think you will miss a lot besides locations since Skyrim plays WAY later... the only thing we might see is some locations that are intact that are destroyed in Skyrim or maybe some vampire characters that are very old...

    I dont know if you havent just played ANY TES games or just not Skyrim...

    ESO is an MMO first and TES game second so they are completely different animals...but if you are into open world rpg's TES are the best games imo and therefore Skyrim for me is just a much better single player experience than ESO.

    So you will REALLY miss out on a gamer level if you dont play Skyrim but i dont think you will miss out with regards to the chapter.



    Yup, mods being the main word in all of that. Without mods, the actual out of the box game is excellent, but doesn't even come close to The Witcher 3. The only thing Skyrim does better imo is allowing us to create our own story as it doesn't shoehorn you into the main quest other than in the beginning or if you wish to learn shouts.
  • Anhedonie
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    Skyrim is set in the future so don't worry too much about it.
    Also, that game doesn't really hold up nowadays, so you're not missing on much.
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  • exeeter702
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    Even at launch I didnt care for skyrim. That was the point where bethesda really entered mainstream appeal mode. In an attempt to attract a broader audience (which worked ofc) they turned their flagship franchise into a far more shallow spectacle focused experienced.

    As an rpg with depth, the game was a massive disappointment to me.
  • Prof_Bawbag
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    ghastley wrote: »
    If you don't play the games, at least read all the lorebooks. A lot of them that don't deal with events that haven't happened yet are in ESO, too. The "later" ones from the earlier games can be found at UESP or the Imperial Library.

    But stay away from the fan fiction stuff online. Could count on around 1 and a half fingers how much of it is worth reading. Not badly written, but you know, nothing really to do with anything.

    Edited by Prof_Bawbag on January 14, 2020 4:21PM
  • Tandor
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    I strongly recommend those who have played Skyrim and enjoyed it to make sure they also play Enderal: Forgotten Stories, a free total conversion mod that is, according to many Skyrim veterans, actually a better game.
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