Anyone think they're adding vampirelords

Siohwenoeht · December 2019

No, they will never add it or at least not with this dlc

FierceSam wrote: »

I would like ZOS to review the Vampire skill line so it actually made sense.

Most of my characters are stage 4 vampires solely because of the passives. They have never fed. They do not behave as vampires and it plays no part in any of their gameplay.

The way the stages work is utterly nonsensical, I get more powerful the less vampiring I do. There is entirely no need to feed. No wonder there are no criminal implications to being a vampire.

I should have to feed to maintain my power. And I should look fantastic once I have fed. And any vampiric activity should incur criminal penalties. I should be more detectable the longer I starve. Stage 1 should see me ugly and weak and obvious, Stage 4 I am powerful, seductive and look great. That is how the skill line should work.

Right now it’s just a buff with an ugly face.

I get what you're saying about the way feeding works, but tes vampires have been this way since Oblivion at least. It's "the starving beast is more dangerous" idea. They just work differently in the lore. I'd be for a rework with more serious consequences for stage 4, but I'm not sure how it would be balanced.

CMDR_Un1k0rn · December 2019

I don't care if they add it or not

Commancho wrote: »

Naftal wrote: »

I hope it's not added. It ruined vampires in elder scrolls.

How exactly it has ruined vampires in TES? Because Dawnguard was one of the best DLCs in TES series according to my own personal opinion and online ratings. That quest line would still crush 95% of silly content eso has and it would make a DB quest line looking like a fairy tale for children in kindergarten.

As good as Dawnguard was... And it was in my opinion the best expansion in any Elder Scrolls game...

It did have one big flaw.

Ever since it came out, a lot of people seem to think that all vampires in Tamriel have this ability to turn into this big blue guy with wings, and that all vampires must be able to do it.

This is far from the truth. So very far... Actually, the vampire lord is a supremely rare occurrence.

And nobody was even asking for it in games prior to Dawnguard. Everyone was happy with vampires as is. I'm talking about the entire franchise as obvioulsy ESO didn't exist then.

That is why vampire lords caused some damage. It's led to some weird expectations from people who don't understand the full story behind vampires in Tamriel.

Noxavian · December 2019

Yes, I think they will add it or something similar

TheTwistedRune wrote: »

Noxavian wrote: »

Nanfoodle wrote: »

Vampires are already over done. Frankly the amount MMOs focuses on undead is getting very old.

LOL

Now this is rich.

Man, what MMOs have you been playing? I gotta get me some of those. As I've been looking for MMOs with an expanded undead/vampire focus and huh, would you look at that, I can't seem to find any..... Vampires are **literally** only playable in ESO, no other MMO in existence.

If you're going to make such huge statements, at least try to back it up some please.

While I don't disagree with your point about "undead not being overdone in MMOs" you can be a vampire in Everquest 2.

Okay, that's 1 other MMO. Hardly close to being "overdone".

Noxavian · December 2019

Yes, I think they will add it or something similar

Ascarl wrote: »

I don t think they can be balanced right and therefore they won t implement it.
The problem is either the tone it up to much and everyone and their dog is a vampirelord or tone it down and nobody wants to do that. Some rare roleplayers aside that just do or avoid this because of the flair.
Of course they can have them start overpowered and nerf them half a year later. But I hope DOS learned from mistakes and avoids that.

Much like the people that said Necromancer couldn't be balanced right, you'll be wrong.

Also again, you forget that the world is from the perspective of a single player. In-game it is not treated as if all the players running around are actually there. Otherwise we'd have a tone of vestiges, which would contradict the main story of the game.

So therefore, yeah, the player becoming a vampire lord is plausible. Dunno how you guys keep forgetting this.

CMDR_Un1k0rn · December 2019

I don't care if they add it or not

Noxavian wrote: »

Ascarl wrote: »

I don t think they can be balanced right and therefore they won t implement it.
The problem is either the tone it up to much and everyone and their dog is a vampirelord or tone it down and nobody wants to do that. Some rare roleplayers aside that just do or avoid this because of the flair.
Of course they can have them start overpowered and nerf them half a year later. But I hope DOS learned from mistakes and avoids that.

Much like the people that said Necromancer couldn't be balanced right, you'll be wrong.

Also again, you forget that the world is from the perspective of a single player. In-game it is not treated as if all the players running around are actually there. Otherwise we'd have a tone of vestiges, which would contradict the main story of the game.

So therefore, yeah, the player becoming a vampire lord is plausible. Dunno how you guys keep forgetting this.

Balance? Not a problem.

Lore on the other hand...

gepe87 · December 2019

Nanfoodle wrote: »

Vampires are already over done. Frankly the amount MMOs focuses on undead is getting very old.

That!
Its outdated bringing undead, dragons and more "world destruction/domination" plots.
Give us something new, TES is full of good sorty to a fresh update.

CMDR_Un1k0rn · December 2019

I don't care if they add it or not

gepe87 wrote: »

Nanfoodle wrote: »

Vampires are already over done. Frankly the amount MMOs focuses on undead is getting very old.

That!
Its outdated bringing undead, dragons and more "world destruction/domination" plots.
Give us something new, TES is full of good sorty to a fresh update.

I've been saying Falmer would be interesting.

They are neither undead, dovah or, at least with their antics in TESV, trying to destroy the world.

Apparently though a lot of people don't like the idea of Falmer because we've "already had them" in TESV.

I mean we also already had a Daedric Prince trying to invade and destroy all Tamriel before ESO, but who am I to talk?