Controlling emotions in PVP

nafensoriel

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

/snip

By universally accepting the fact that it is a video game with no consequences whatsoever to anyone involved.

Nothing a person can say to you will impact you more than you allow it to impact you.
Nothing you say to another will impact them more than they allow it to.

If a comment upsets you it is because you elect to be upset by it.

Also, have fun with the idiots who like to be ***. Counter trolling someone into a rage is an art and so very satisfying.

Rahar

Honestly, just don't respond. An idiotic percentage of people who play PvP will say anything in an attempt to rile you up.

When I die to a stupid situation (not caused by the game's performance), I tend to think about what I could have done better. Could I have moved better? Healed better? Gotten a kill where I gave it up? Made a bad decision in general? Then I apply that knowledge to the next time I fight.

What's the most frustrating is when game performance causes you to die due to no fault of your own. Then sometimes just logging off is the only good answer, and I have those days.

Other times I tend to play more lighthearted PvP builds (like ganking) for a session or two just to remind me that ESO is a game. You're meant to have fun. Taking it too seriously is a good way to start hating it and a ticket to getting peeved rather than enjoying your time playing and smashing health bars in one combo. A little-known fact is that the same people who say that the only way to play the game is to build without certain skills and not play certain classes because they're too powerful are closely related to the people who will say anything to get you mad. Both are equally idiotic.

Zephard

The best response I have had from PvP experience, was the 2nd match of BG. Me and my spouse in our PvE gear (me in Ebon as I am a tank) and the guy like gets in our face literally, chat says, don't let your PvE butts ruin my daily BG.
We were there because my spouse needed Caltrops. And on the forum read it was the fastest way to build those Skill Lines.

We were horrible, and the dude was getting angrier and angrier with our score. Of course he wasn't giving any hints on what to do. We died a lot, a lot. The match was over quick cause how much we died, how many points we gave away.

We just laughed.

We have yet to make a PvP gear / CP / Skill setup, but did find Cyro faster at getting Caltrops. And just know we are going to die a lot. I do take off one ring so I am not shining out from across the horizon.

roflcopter

jircris11 wrote: »

I avoid pvp as it tends to be the most egotistical and toxic of the community.

Vet trial guilds by far are worse than anything that I have experienced in PVP. It's not even remotely in the same galaxy.

Zephard

I think almost all "end game" players can be more toxic than non "end game" players.

Of course I have always thought "end game" was an appropriate term, these players are at the end. I normally get a little frustrated at the end of a game I have enjoyed, cause I don't want it to end. but it is, so then the frustration happens.

Iskiab

Neoauspex wrote: »

I agree with the general sentiment of this thread: it's just a game. We're pretty lucky to even have the opportunity to entertain ourselves this way. But one aspect of your question that should not be overlooked is "how do I deal with criticism?" And that's a very complicated art whether it's related to entertainment or not.

It can be very easy to dismiss criticism when the delivery is vicious or the source is unexpected like in your example. Try to dismiss the viciousness but retain the information so you can evaluate it's validity and react to it. In the same way that danger causes fear, you're still way better off acknowledging the danger.

There’s a good book from a professor out of Harvard business that talks about this:

Summary: define your core values and don’t waver on them. Confidence derived from a strong sense of self and sticking to your principals. Negativity will just lead to second guessing yourself, and others, there’s a difference between a learning opportunity and someone who’s destructive.

Cavedog

Shantu wrote: »

I'm an emotional person by nature. Concepts such as respect and honor (and conversely dishonor and disrespect) have meaning and affect whether encountered face to face or interacting with another human being via pixels. There was a period of about 6 months I was totally into PVP. Honestly, I had some great and thrilling times defending and taking keeps. But the toxicity I encountered just accumulated to the point I had to ask myself whether the experience was more or less fun. By that time the answer was obvious.

Personally, I think the experience of PVP would on the whole be much more positive if such behavior were reportable and moderated. There's no need for it. If it were, many more would stick with the PVP experience. But as it stands, it's something I, and many others, just choose to avoid.

I find the ignore list to be quite helpful in certain situations.

Cavedog

roflcopter wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

I avoid pvp as it tends to be the most egotistical and toxic of the community.

Vet trial guilds by far are worse than anything that I have experienced in PVP. It's not even remotely in the same galaxy.

This has been my experience as well.....excluding one of the PvP streamers of course.

phuein

The main trick is to not play alone. Don't play alone. Join a guild or whomever. It's an MMO, it works better with others. Cyro and BGs. Way more fun with even 1 friend with ya.

xxthir13enxx

Kel wrote: »

The only thing that makes me upset when I die, is when a person I kill repeatedly is the one that comes over to tea-bag me when I get caught out.

I was just on the outside of Alesia, and I was fighting 1v1 with a guy....or trying to. He ran ran ran....ran me into about 4 others. THEN of course he wanted to fight...🤣

Long story short they got me in the end, but I caught the runner no less that 4 times. Just couldn't stop the rez'es and still have the stam to do damage.

No one else tea-bagged except the dude who ran and was caught out 4 separate times.

THAT is what gets my goat. WTF are you doing?
You should be embarrassed....all you literally did was repeatedly die, what are you supposed to be bragging about? lol

Heh ya that’s one mentality I’ll never understand...
I’ve simply come to the conclusion that it’s a misunderstanding of what TeaBag’n means..
To them it is a symbolic gesture of offering their manhood as they are no longer worthy of their family jewels.

See...I can RP too....lol

NBrookus

So many good comments here.

If you are playing with adrenaline jittery hands and high emotions, it's also hurting your performance. You can accomplish more when you are calm and focused. When you have difficultly controlling your emotions over a video game in which absolutely nothing is at stake, it's time to step away.

As for salty whispers... the dogs bark but the caravan moves on.

Reyleigh

Started pvp a little over a month now, sometimes i do get angry (and swear a LOT) when the lag/desync is all over the place and when my skills don't respond
I never teabag people though, not only do i find it dumb to teabag people, but if someone teabags you it just means that you got on their nerves, that's why i usually burst in laughter when it happens

MattT1988

roflcopter wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

I avoid pvp as it tends to be the most egotistical and toxic of the community.

Vet trial guilds by far are worse than anything that I have experienced in PVP. It's not even remotely in the same galaxy.

It’s funny. The complete opposite is true for me. Not calling you a liar or anything, it’s just strange how different our individual experiences are.

maboleth

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

My journey to become good in PVP is a struggle. I have leveled all classes both stam and mag to get an overview over their capabilities, with the endgame goal to know them all enough to know how to react in PVP. I am now at the point where i started to get some good kills against new and moderate players in BGs. Against good players, i have no chance.

Controlling my emotions in PVP is at times hard. Snarky comments from others can really *** me off. This one dude in my team today went "A stamplar should be getting more kills and do more dmg than this , change your spec". I JUST made my spec , spent a LOT of time and gold on it - theorycrafting and testing the skills i wanted - and when i finally get in the action this guy come along. (snip).

This made me think, how do YOU control your emotions ingame while PVPing? Do you get mad when a snipe spammer kills you or you lose to someone you consider playing cheap? Do you just laugh it off when you die?

(edited for profanity and inappropriate content)

How? It's quite simple although it took me a while, especially when I was new.

So basically I just have fun, totally don't care if someone killed me this or that way. Sometimes If someone is attacking me constantly in a bad way (petty sleazy *** way) I tend to hunt him/her down and kill. That's the furthest I go now.

Toxic whispers? I totally ignore, never reply back and put those on ignore instantly. I'm not even thinking twice on this. There are times when someone /w me feeling revolted after a fight, but we end up chatting and laughing together. But there's a line in that. It's quite obvious when someone is toxic and mean vs angry but good spirited.

xxthir13enxx

MattT1988 wrote: »

roflcopter wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

I avoid pvp as it tends to be the most egotistical and toxic of the community.

Vet trial guilds by far are worse than anything that I have experienced in PVP. It's not even remotely in the same galaxy.

It’s funny. The complete opposite is true for me. Not calling you a liar or anything, it’s just strange how different our individual experiences are.

Typically things get toxic when
...they say, “Are you wearing this...”

And you reply, “ No, I prefer X cause it just works out better for me.”

Though Trial PuGs tend to be the worst...
Everyone is an expert on what Everyone Else should or should’ve done

jircris11

The Uninvited wrote: »

jircris11 wrote: »

I avoid pvp as it tends to be the most egotistical and toxic of the community.

Funny, my experience is exactly the opposite.

You got lucky, every time I go to pvp its toxic... [snip]

Edit for bait.

Tsar_Gekkou

PvP tends to be toxic because unlike getting killed by a computer, you're facing an actual person who's trying to stop you from doing what you want to do. Just remember that there's a person on the other end of the screen, and that they're probably just a moron who is of no consequence to you.

bmnoble

I don't tend to worry about it, most of those whispering you are hoping you will reply, so they can troll you.


If they are persistent, what I do is go into google translate, get it to translate a reply into Russian or some other hard to learn language, copy and paste it as my reply, once they think you don't speak English they leave you alone.


Problem with PVP is you are more likely to run into the same players, you have to put up with the idiots if you want to play it.

Had some idiot in Cyrodiil on the same side mind you, who imagines he can have a private one on one fight with an AD player while both our side of the Pact and an AD zerg are fighting over an outpost.

We were getting routed at the time, I mostly play a healer in PVP saw this player losing a lot of health, so I healed him, he proceeded to call me a *** and to stop interfering, I just typed in chat enjoy the ride from the nearest keep and left, saw in the distance him getting killed a few moments later by the AD zerg.

I ended up helping keep alive a number of the other Pact players who had escaped the outpost, while we moved to and defended one of are keeps, thankfully both AD and DC attacked at the same time screwing up each others siege attempt.

ArchMikem

AlanTheDragonLord wrote: »

It's just pixels on the screen. There are other, more important things that are worth getting upset about. But not pixels.

Pixels controlled by real people making those pixels teabag your pixels.

russelmmendoza

Why get mad, get even.

Tell them to fight everyone.

If they win by themselves, like single handedly won the game, then accept what they said.

Mr_Walker

Whilst there are a lot of chill pvpers, it also tends to attract a dirproportionate numbers of what can only be described as "mediocre intellects powered by massive egos".

Ignore it.

dcam86b14_ESO

Cyrodil is full of Toxicity and Ego.

That's all I see in Yell chat and Zone chat.

I laugh at it bc that's all you can do.

Mr_Walker

dcam86b14_ESO wrote: »

Cyrodil is full of Toxicity and Ego.

That's all I see in Yell chat and Zone chat.

I laugh at it bc that's all you can do.

Completely untrue, we all know the toxicity in Cyro zone chat was caused by faction swapping trolls, it's all hugs wrapped in puppies these days.

xxthir13enxx

I dunno....I find myself to be extremely funny in ZC in Cyrodiil....

Now get out there and...
https://youtu.be/vCadcBR95oU

DUTCH_REAPER

I go pet a puppy and crawl into my safe space. Aka Yuengling

TheFM

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

My journey to become good in PVP is a struggle. I have leveled all classes both stam and mag to get an overview over their capabilities, with the endgame goal to know them all enough to know how to react in PVP. I am now at the point where i started to get some good kills against new and moderate players in BGs. Against good players, i have no chance.

Controlling my emotions in PVP is at times hard. Snarky comments from others can really *** me off. This one dude in my team today went "A stamplar should be getting more kills and do more dmg than this , change your spec". I JUST made my spec , spent a LOT of time and gold on it - theorycrafting and testing the skills i wanted - and when i finally get in the action this guy come along. (snip).

This made me think, how do YOU control your emotions ingame while PVPing? Do you get mad when a snipe spammer kills you or you lose to someone you consider playing cheap? Do you just laugh it off when you die?

(edited for profanity and inappropriate content)

The devils lettuce. lol

Mayrael

Just ignore. There is nothing more frustrating than trying to make someone angry and hitting the wall of "I don't give a f"

Kalante

PVP is such a joke balance wise so I just laugh it off and forget about it the next day. PVE in the other hand it's just soul crushing. The amounts of fake people you meet to only use you and backstab you later is outstanding. Also had friendships destroyed because elitism gets into people's heads. I had "friends" that stopped talking to me once they got voice of reason and dromathra destroyer. They were in a different crowd now. I could also had gotten my tittle if my vmol hm healer didn't quit all of the sudden to go pc. We got rakhat at 13% third try only to abruptly stop because some ****holes had to go. We then decided to just ten man vmol and to do the achievements. Some people can't even do vmol with 12 people and here we are doing the vmol achievements with two people short like a boss. I said to myself ill never be in a good team such as this ever again. We had good quemistry even if it was for just one week. My other guild was also decent but the leader never wanted to do vmol hm. Then the nb nerfs came where I lost 5k dps so I decided to quit pve.

If my class can't hit the hardest single target there is no point in even being a dps because that's all the stam nb is good at and we got shafted HARD. Now we do 10k-20k dps less compared to the necros and stam sorcs that also can do AOE. I've never seen such terrible balance in my life with huge dps gaps, in which the AOE classes are also better at single target by having 10k more dps than the single target class. Like what's the point of bringing a stam nb? Thanks guilliam. At least with wroble he knew how dots worked.

Vanos444

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

This made me think, how do YOU control your emotions ingame while PVPing? Do you get mad when a snipe spammer kills you or you lose to someone you consider playing cheap? Do you just laugh it off when you die?

(edited for profanity)

I mostly play as a tank/healplar. So, those snipers have a hard time killing me...I am mostly immortal xD

Some gankers try one-shotting me but to their suprise, I am left standing until they quit, run or get nuked by my followers...

Grianasteri

Mariusghost84 wrote: »

My journey to become good in PVP is a struggle. I have leveled all classes both stam and mag to get an overview over their capabilities, with the endgame goal to know them all enough to know how to react in PVP. I am now at the point where i started to get some good kills against new and moderate players in BGs. Against good players, i have no chance.

Controlling my emotions in PVP is at times hard. Snarky comments from others can really *** me off. This one dude in my team today went "A stamplar should be getting more kills and do more dmg than this , change your spec". I JUST made my spec , spent a LOT of time and gold on it - theorycrafting and testing the skills i wanted - and when i finally get in the action this guy come along. I swear to god, i wanted to punch this (snip) in the throat IRL.

This made me think, how do YOU control your emotions ingame while PVPing? Do you get mad when a snipe spammer kills you or you lose to someone you consider playing cheap? Do you just laugh it off when you die?

(edited for profanity)

I main PVE, but I do play PVP BG and Cyrodiil to level skills and obtain transmute crystals, or get sets, or yeah just to have fun sometimes.

In my experience Cyrodiil can certainly be toxic. This is just the social media/internet phenomenon of very sad, ignorant, insulting people, thinking they can behave how they like just because its online or in a game.

Best to ignore and move on. Or, if I am in the mood, defeat the weak minded in mortal text combat.