Sorcs have an unfair advantage.

Titain

Crystal shards, but you removed, counters like reflective scales.
Bolt escape, but you removed counters like immovable.
encase, can not be blocked.
Ruin prison, can not be blocked.
4 advantages you have give Sorcs, and removed counters to these attacks, please explain to me. why you feel Sorcs should have this advantage while you nurf everyone else?
I never though the game was to be dictated, on what race, or skill line you had to play to win. Do understand I am speaking about PVP, non CP.
The game had been balanced over the past 7 years, and in one fail swoop you come in and disrupt everything instead of focusing on the op skills.
I will never agree to what has been done to your customer base. they have trained, and used their skills for years, and all of a sudden somebody has the bright idea to turn everything up side down. Zos had broken armor sets, broken weapons, created so many bugs, and problems you can't count them all. not to mention pissed off a lot of people.
I do not agree with your common core, [snip] approach to balance, because there is no balance, and the entire idea was stupid, plain, and simple.
[snip]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkW-K5RQdzo&list=RDla1WfEr60yg&index=18

[Edit for political reference.]

NordSwordnBoard

Titain wrote: »

The game had been balanced over the past 7 years, and in one fail swoop you come in and disrupt everything instead of focusing on the op skills.

Good pun! (I hope)

KillsAllElves

Wtf did i just read?

technohic

Im not sure what you are on about. Something about sorcs, a little bit about the devs, a random Rammstein video. Take it easy there [snip].

[Edit for inappropriate remark.]

Qwazzy

Lol

Dojohoda

I wish all my phalanges were thumbs because they'd all be up.

huhjun1978

Each class has their own special advantages, if you play well, you can counter Sorc easily. You can ask someone (like me) how to do, it's not a problem.

katanagirl1

As a stamplar, I’m greatly weakened by my javelin being nerfed to something like 10 feet, while sorcs can hammer me from the upper decks of keeps when I’m sieging at maximum range. That’s not balanced.

gepe87

What about every single crystal is dodge?? Maybe you are too hasty while fighting them. Sorc is all about exhausting their opponent.

Titain

huhjun1978 wrote: »

Each class has their own special advantages, if you play well, you can counter Sorc easily. You can ask someone (like me) how to do, it's not a problem.

[snip] every other skill line is limited, except Sorcs. they have 4 or more major perks in their skill line. these patches where about balance not being a tank to counter a Sorc. I have a sorc, a nigh blade, a Dragon Knight, and a Templar. maybe your idea of countering a sorc is to either out tank them, or run from them [snip]? Once again, if balance is for everyone playing pvp to be a tank, I would like you to explain to me how that is balance? there are more Sorcs in pvp then any other class, and that is not because they like sorcs, it is because they are op! [snip]

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Derra

Titain wrote: »

huhjun1978 wrote: »

Each class has their own special advantages, if you play well, you can counter Sorc easily. You can ask someone (like me) how to do, it's not a problem.

[snip] every other skill line is limited, except Sorcs. they have 4 or more major perks in their skill line. these patches where about balance not being a tank to counter a Sorc. I have a sorc, a nigh blade, a Dragon Knight, and a Templar. maybe your idea of countering a sorc is to either out tank them, or run from them [snip]? Once again, if balance is for everyone playing pvp to be a tank, I would like you to explain to me how that is balance? there are more Sorcs in pvp then any other class, and that is not because they like sorcs, it is because they are op! [snip]

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If you approach it completely rationally warden is the class with the most universial toolkit.

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jadarock

With all the wardens and templars around you are going to the sorc op card?! lolz

Alienoutlaw

(snip) quite with the "i get killed by sorcs so nerf them" threads, there is ALWAYS a counter play to ANY class you just have to learn what it is and how to do it

(edited for baiting)

Titain

For some odd reason people feel that I am bashing Sorcs because they are OP, its not really the intention here.
You don't go out to the bar and ask them to water down your drinks do you?
Do you water down your fireworks before the 4th?
then why would watering down skill lines be any different? Watered down skills means watered down fun!
If I want watered down fun ill go to a wet T shirt contest.
It is not why I play Elder Scrolls.

InaMoonlight

You might have a valid pointe, but it got lost in all the hostility </3

horizonxael

lol and I complain that in pvp I suck and are sorcs I always shott the immortal or Templar tanks ahahahaah

WildWilbur

No, I would give a 2/10 for a lot of correct spelled words. But Rammstein pushed you through the roof to a solid 5/10! Ah, it's this season - I give you a 6/10! Happy St. Nicholas Day!

quadraxis666

Soooo... what exactly is the bug you're reporting?

Titain

Bugs! who said Elder Scrolls had any bugs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHPbTuSOKaA

People that do the normal game few dungeons, little questing would not even understand how broken the game is.
strip off your CP, go into a PVP match to test your glorious legendary armor, and you will see what bugs I am speaking about.
It's not a bug, it's an infestation. The entire idea behind the patches was to create balance, it did no such thing, it only took 7 years of development, and tossed it into the trash can. Instead of working on the problems that the game had. We have adjusted the entire game. creating new problems, and not fixing the existing problems. It is not really worth the effort of bringing problems to the attention of the bug report, because should the devs not agree with you, they will threaten, and ban your account to keep you quiet. They will not admit that they have made any mistakes, will only sugar coat things, and hope your short term memory will forget all about it.

Titain

. While I am at it the next topic in the discussion will be the Templars biting jabs.

•Launch a relentless assault, striking enemies in front of you four times with your Aedric spear dealing 299 Physical Damage to the closest enemy and 121 Physical Damage to all other enemies.
•The final strike reduces the Movement Speed of the closest enemy by 40% for 1 second
•Activating this ability grants you Major Savagery, increasing your Weapon Critical rating by 2191 for 8 seconds.

no place in the description does it say that this skill will silence you, but it does, it silences you from retaliation In any way can not roll doge, can not use any of you skills because you are silenced. Yes broken also. So this creates a situation where you have spamming, and it has been going on for quiet some time, this has not been addressed.

The solution to all these problems would be to "do a roll back," and focused on each problem individually so that you could make adjustments as needed one skill at a time. your blanketed approach to adjustments has created more problems than it has solved.

If it ain't Broke don't fix it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FlYODAJUBU

idk

Titain wrote: »

Crystal shards, but you removed, counters like reflective scales.

Sorry but I did not read past the first line.

If reflective scales is the only counter to crystal shards then how have the other classes managed against sorcs all this time.

Smh the rest of us manage against sorcs. Maybe figure out those counters all of us have available.

TequilaFire

Nerf sorc threads have finally made it to bug reports section.
I guess it "bugs" him. lmao

Titain

TequilaFire wrote: »

Nerf sorc threads have finally made it to bug reports section.
I guess it "bugs" him. lmao

Did I strike a never with you when I mention Templars biting jabs?
may I ask is this why 3 of your characters are Templar, so you may exploit the Templars biting jabs?

I know who you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPtHgy54fHU

Titain

There is a higher order, It is much higher than the devs, understanding of balance, disorder is not balance.
You cant have one with out the other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezmR9Attpyc

7 years of development, 7 years of balancing, 7 years of tweaking glitches , and bugs. Just when everything was starting to feel right, you went and screwed it all up.

Titain

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

could just L2P like everyone else and quite with the "i get killed by sorcs so nerf them" threads, there is ALWAYS a counter play to ANY class you just have to learn what it is and how to do it

Anyone who would sit, and ignore the facts written in front of them, and documented, then proceed to lie, I have a very low opinion of.
Just be cause you say it is. Does not make it true!

Rune Prison
Active •Imprison an enemy in a constricting sphere of dark magic, after a short duration they are stunned for 3 seconds.
•The stun cannot be blocked or dodged.

Encase
•Call Daedric shards from the earth to immobilize enemies in front of you for 4 seconds.
•This ability cannot be blocked.

Now that you have been discredited for lying. Maybe in the future you will do your due diligence before making false comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b4xuxy-OEc

tim99

Titain

Not really about nurfing anyone, It is about un-nurfing.
Many classes lost things they need to counter the sorcs.
like weapon range, shields, reflective scale, knock backs,
and the ability to avoid certain attacks.
So many skills mutilated that it has cause a total imbalance.
But if you read the thread you would see.
is about how our skill lines have been watered down.
These skills where need to keep sorc's in check.

Titain

Enough said this was before Zos nurfed our skills we had to counter sorcs.
now its just 10 times worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFNw5RdiOHo

Tolino

@Titain
You should learn how the class works before you complain about it

Titain wrote: »

Rune Prison
Active •Imprison an enemy in a constricting sphere of dark magic, after a short duration they are stunned for 3 seconds.
•The stun cannot be blocked or dodged.

You can doge it easy! It has a 1s delay.

Titain wrote: »

Encase
•Call Daedric shards from the earth to immobilize enemies in front of you for 4 seconds.
•This ability cannot be blocked.

Snare and immobilization immunity? But nobody uses this ability anyway.

Titain

I am a CP 1229 Sorc, I think I know how it works.
I also know I can steal kills left, and right, daedric shards are nasty.
I do not run my Sorc much because when I do I get all kinds of nasty
pm's.
I will soon be running my Sorc, just because I can, and just because it is OP.
I would prefer that the skills where un-nurfted so I can run what ever character I choose, but in the end.
I will exploit this problem just like everyone else.
It is a problem, and I will take advantage of it just because the devs do not care.