December 2019 login rewards

eklhaftb16_ESO

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Major holiday months this is a good thing; would you want to be the one who missed out on something decent because you were out of town visiting relatives?

I know, I know. I'm not really complaining about the amount or value of rewards, I'm rather just poking fun at the fact they didn't acknowledge the holiday at all. Anything would be good... a furniture tree, anything. This is... bland. If there wasn't the "December" sign on the top, it could've been just as well January and I wouldn't know the difference.

Gythral

spartaxoxo wrote: »

Monthly rewards are garbagegarbage as rewards. It is known

FierceSam

Kel wrote: »

I agree the rewards (especially for the Christmas month and not having exactly "covered themselves in glory" this year, as Matt put it) aren't exactly thrilling, at the end of the day, it's free stuff for doing something you were going to do anyway...log in.

I'm not normally one to give unnecessary praise, but I've seen daily rewards in other games. At least in ESO there are some nuggets of decent to good rewards. Yes, alot of junk as well, but it's not all bad. Especially if you can look beyond your personal wants and needs. 10k gold might be nothing to you, for example, but can make the difference for someone else.

No one's arguing the rewards are lackluster, but, are they supposed to be? I just don't get the outrage over this. They absolutely don't have to give us anything....

Maybe if they changed the name to “monthly pile of shite you don’t need but will have to accept and delete to move on”, I wouldn’t feel as negatively about them and as a result about ZOS.

Rewards have to be.... well .... a little rewarding

Instead they just seem to indicate the contempt in which ZOS holds its players - here’s a pile of shite for you, are you not grateful?

Kel

FierceSam wrote: »

Kel wrote: »

I agree the rewards (especially for the Christmas month and not having exactly "covered themselves in glory" this year, as Matt put it) aren't exactly thrilling, at the end of the day, it's free stuff for doing something you were going to do anyway...log in.

I'm not normally one to give unnecessary praise, but I've seen daily rewards in other games. At least in ESO there are some nuggets of decent to good rewards. Yes, alot of junk as well, but it's not all bad. Especially if you can look beyond your personal wants and needs. 10k gold might be nothing to you, for example, but can make the difference for someone else.

No one's arguing the rewards are lackluster, but, are they supposed to be? I just don't get the outrage over this. They absolutely don't have to give us anything....

Maybe if they changed the name to “monthly pile of shite you don’t need but will have to accept and delete to move on”, I wouldn’t feel as negatively about them and as a result about ZOS.

Rewards have to be.... well .... a little rewarding

Instead they just seem to indicate the contempt in which ZOS holds its players - here’s a pile of shite for you, are you not grateful?

You don't have to be grateful, but after all it's literally a reward for doing nothing but hitting enter on your character select screen.

How much of a reward do we honestly expect from doing that?

I just think the outrage is a little overblown.

RefLiberty

Completely demotivational.

Umm, no, when to think about it, it is motivational. Thank you motivate me to play more another titles, since I don't have to think should I log in or not daily.

Danikat

jircris11 wrote: »

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Funny how they aren't even trying anymore. "Merry Non-Denominational Winter Holiday, here's your 1000 tel-var stones!" Possibly the [snip] advent calendar I've ever seen.

[Edit cor censor bypass.]

Major holiday months this is a good thing; would you want to be the one who missed out on something decent because you were out of town visiting relatives?

Remember ppl complained about the loot crates and stuff so they removed it. Now these SAME ppl complain about a lackluster calendar lol.

We don't even need to remember. November had 2 New Moon crates and there's a 7 page topic full of people talking about how everything they got from them was trash they traded for gems or wish they could delete. https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/503160/2-free-moon-crates-what-will-you-get/p1

Jaraal

Kel wrote: »

You don't have to be grateful, but after all it's literally a reward for doing nothing but hitting enter on your character select screen.

And you've hit upon the exact reason why it's so distasteful. They are manipulating players to play their game.


How many times has someone said on these forums, "I'm just logging in to collect my daily rewards, I might start playing again if they do/don't do (insert gripe here). Is it to inflate active player stats? Or perhaps another opportunity to shove the giant ad in your face so that maybe you'll say, "Oh, hey, look at this cool/mount/pet/house/costume... maybe I'll buy it."

And the fact that they are trying to manipulate us with junk we can't destroy fast enough just adds insult to injury. Ahhhh, but if you log in enough and destroy the junk, we'll toss you a crate or a pet for your trouble. So we are turned into a bunch of Pacrootilov's dogs, salivating even though we're not sure why we're salivating, but hey, here's some more free junk, I don't want to feel guilty because some players on the forums said I should be happy for my free junk, I don't really deserve the free junk, but I will accept it with a smile because that's what they want me to do.

Kel

Jaraal wrote: »

Kel wrote: »

You don't have to be grateful, but after all it's literally a reward for doing nothing but hitting enter on your character select screen.

And you've hit upon the exact reason why it's so distasteful. They are manipulating players to play their game.


How many times has someone said on these forums, "I'm just logging in to collect my daily rewards, I might start playing again if they do/don't do (insert gripe here). Is it to inflate active player stats? Or perhaps another opportunity to shove the giant ad in your face so that maybe you'll say, "Oh, hey, look at this cool/mount/pet/house/costume... maybe I'll buy it."

And the fact that they are trying to manipulate us with junk we can't destroy fast enough just adds insult to injury. Ahhhh, but if you log in enough and destroy the junk, we'll toss you a crate or a pet for your trouble. So we are turned into a bunch of Pacrootilov's dogs, salivating even though we're not sure why we're salivating, but hey, here's some more free junk, I don't want to feel guilty because some players on the forums said I should be happy for my free junk, I don't really deserve the free junk, but I will accept it with a smile because that's what they want me to do.

The first thing in the quote you copied says "You don't have to be grateful." How do you then flip that around to saying "People on the forums say you should be happy with free junk"?

I also find it baffling that the complaints are the rewards aren't good enough. So, why do you feel forced to log in for something not deemed good enough?

The entire argument is a....bad....contradiction. You're so unwilling to look past your own point of view to realize nothing you posted has any argument from me.
I just don't get the overblown reaction. If the rewards are good, you're forced to log in. But if they are bad rewards, complain about the minor inconvenience of having to destroy them?

So, basically, complain either way, right?
Am I doing the forums right, now?

heaven13

I do wish they'd invert the schedule every now and again. I care more about the currency than the consumables but it's the currency I'll be missing out on since I am going out of town for Christmas.

CrystalShard

At this point I'd rather they scrapped the whole daily login reward thing altogether. What started as a motivation to log in, has eventually turned into a hassle. You have one or two somewhat nice things per month while the rest is junk you end up deleting. As it is right now inconvenience outweighs the incentive.

CassandraGemini

Kel wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

Kel wrote: »

You don't have to be grateful, but after all it's literally a reward for doing nothing but hitting enter on your character select screen.

And you've hit upon the exact reason why it's so distasteful. They are manipulating players to play their game.


How many times has someone said on these forums, "I'm just logging in to collect my daily rewards, I might start playing again if they do/don't do (insert gripe here). Is it to inflate active player stats? Or perhaps another opportunity to shove the giant ad in your face so that maybe you'll say, "Oh, hey, look at this cool/mount/pet/house/costume... maybe I'll buy it."

And the fact that they are trying to manipulate us with junk we can't destroy fast enough just adds insult to injury. Ahhhh, but if you log in enough and destroy the junk, we'll toss you a crate or a pet for your trouble. So we are turned into a bunch of Pacrootilov's dogs, salivating even though we're not sure why we're salivating, but hey, here's some more free junk, I don't want to feel guilty because some players on the forums said I should be happy for my free junk, I don't really deserve the free junk, but I will accept it with a smile because that's what they want me to do.

I also find it baffling that the complaints are the rewards aren't good enough. So, why do you feel forced to log in for something not deemed good enough?

I just don't get the overblown reaction. If the rewards are good, you're forced to log in. But if they are bad rewards, complain about the minor inconvenience of having to destroy them?

So, basically, complain either way, right?
Am I doing the forums right, now?

I don't think it's quite like that. I personally have never complained about the daily log-in rewards before and I sure as hell ain't complaining about the crate. I love pets and mounts, so awesome, no nagging from me on that front. But there just has been a lot going on lately, and people are really on edge by now about the bad performance, the server problems, unplayable pvp, the weird combat changes, the absolute lack of communication at times, the botched event, etc. I believe someone mentioned, that ZoS could have used this month's rewards to kind of "make up" for that in a sense, and honestly, I was pretty much thinking the same thing.

What we got instead, however, is just completely uninspired. I mean, 10 days at the end of the month where it just literally alternates between increasing amounts of money, AP and Tel Var Stones? That's as though the person or team responsible for these rewards sat there and just went: "Whatever, don't even care anymore". When instead they could have taken this opportunity to give us something interesting at a point in the month where everyone could get it, even if they won't have time to log in for a week - something along the lines of a unique house item or costume or whatever. I don't even do housing, but I still would have been happy with that, because of, well, the "gesture", if you will. But that's a moot point now, as it stands.

Anotherone773

CrystalShard wrote: »

At this point I'd rather they scrapped the whole daily login reward thing altogether. What started as a motivation to log in, has eventually turned into a hassle. You have one or two somewhat nice things per month while the rest is junk you end up deleting. As it is right now inconvenience outweighs the incentive.

They do it because some people, even though they dont care about the rewards login for the free rewards. Its like an OCD/FOMO/Hoarder obsession. Even when it makes them miserable or annoyed, they do it anyway because its "limited time" and they cant miss the rewards. I use to do it to get the crates but they took away crates and i stopped and never started again. The rewards are fine for leveling up new characters but its not something id go to effort to login for.

I log in based on how good an event is though. This one is meh. I basically just collect double dragon loot for a day and call it. They only have about 3-4 good events with the best being the anniversary event. The rest are rather meh like the zone events.

spartaxoxo

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

eklhaftb16_ESO wrote: »

Funny how they aren't even trying anymore. "Merry Non-Denominational Winter Holiday, here's your 1000 tel-var stones!" Possibly the [snip] advent calendar I've ever seen.

[Edit for censor bypass.]

If he bypassed the censor then why was this edited? That means he didnt break the rules. Sorry ZOS you can't keep editing posts you dont like

Bypassing the censor is literally against the rules...

jazsper77

It seems that a lot of players are unaware of the $$$ benefits ZOS gets from the log in rewards. A. The get to report to the Shareholders how many daily players they as the have the log in records for it and they can also use it as a promotional gimmick to attract new players.

My opinion is the players should receive the same benefits as the company with this system. As the rewards have currently been it’s not even remotely close.

TheImperfect

Guaranteed good item, gold and tel var. Seems pretty good to me.

vgabor

Jaraal wrote: »

I'd trade it all in for not having to type DESTROY on a separate window for garbage poisons, drinks, duplicate outfit pages that can't even be banked and don't stack, Unmarked Sacks with unstackable Monk's Disguises, and so forth.

Why do we have to jump through hoops to get rid of useless stuff?

Mark all as junk, then switch to junk tab and press 'x' followed by 'e', job done.

Araneae6537

Jaraal wrote: »

FierceSam wrote: »

Heatnix90 wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

I'd trade it all in for not having to type DESTROY on a separate window for garbage poisons, drinks, duplicate outfit pages that can't even be banked and don't stack, Unmarked Sacks with unstackable Monk's Disguises, and so forth.

Why do we have to jump through hoops to get rid of useless stuff?

p sure Dolugbon added an auto-confirm option to Lazy Writ Crafter or has it as a separate mod.

St Dolgubon may be the patron saint of PC crafters, but he’s not omnipotent. Not even he can instantly recognise all the inventory blocking garbage ZOS throws at us. Or solve the innumerable issues that make inventory such an arse ache.

Yeah, what does it say to their logic that you can accidentally deconstruct that rare golded out weapon you made 50 runs to get with a click or two (if you didn't lock it), but you have to perfectly type something out in caps lock and then confirm to destroy some trash poisons you have to accept to get the giant nag screen ad out of your face so you can play.

While I would say that you can’t expect the game to know what is of value to you as versus only value in decon/etc., an auto-lock of gold items might be logical, although I am sure there are those who would complain about that for reasons I’ve not thought of... Seriously though, we have the lock feature — use it and liberally! I immediately lock any item I think I might want to keep because I can always change my mind later.

D0PAMINE

Kel wrote: »

I agree the rewards (especially for the Christmas month and not having exactly "covered themselves in glory" this year, as Matt put it) aren't exactly thrilling, at the end of the day, it's free stuff for doing something you were going to do anyway...log in.

I'm not normally one to give unnecessary praise, but I've seen daily rewards in other games. At least in ESO there are some nuggets of decent to good rewards. Yes, alot of junk as well, but it's not all bad. Especially if you can look beyond your personal wants and needs. 10k gold might be nothing to you, for example, but can make the difference for someone else.

No one's arguing the rewards are lackluster, but, are they supposed to be? I just don't get the outrage over this. They absolutely don't have to give us anything....

They may up the rewards after they implement their planned server fixes, and if those fixes are successful enough, will allow more people to at least be able to claim them, esspecially on PC EU. We would have threads about people missing the good things if some issue happens (which lately has been frequent.).

Kittytravel

Jaraal wrote: »

And you've hit upon the exact reason why it's so distasteful. They are manipulating players to play their game.

What?
I hate to break it to you but leave society if you think that's distasteful because this is literally every company out there.
What the heck did you think advertising was? The companies past time???

CaiWenji

You're a mean one M̶r̶.̶ ̶G̶r̶i̶n̶c̶h̶ ZOS.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Kittytravel wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

And you've hit upon the exact reason why it's so distasteful. They are manipulating players to play their game.

What?
I hate to break it to you but leave society if you think that's distasteful because this is literally every company out there.
What the heck did you think advertising was? The companies past time???

I think Jaraal's point is that they are doing the manipulating badly. If ZOS were doing the job properly we either wouldn't notice, or wouldn't mind. Instead it's obvious and ineffective, thus turning it into an annoyance rather than an enticement.

Hapexamendios

As always, it’s free stuff so I’ll take it.

WldKarde

The rewards...Meh.

Then again I log to play the game and not for the rewards.

Still I have to give ZOS props for embracing their inner Grinch

Araneae6537

Really? People are complaining about free login rewards now? 🙄 I do agree a holiday-themed furnishing or costume, etc. would be nice, but maybe that will be part of the festival event.

The food buffs, experience scrolls and research scrolls are nice for newer players and gold and crates are always appreciated (I won’t BUY crates unless I were able to trade in any collectible I don’t want, but free potential goodies or gems are always nice)!

Anyway, log in to play the game, or don’t, and if you get a fun extra goodie, that’s a nice bonus. There are very legitimate things to complain about and it detracts from that, in my opinion, to just complain about everything.

Jaraal

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

Kittytravel wrote: »

Jaraal wrote: »

And you've hit upon the exact reason why it's so distasteful. They are manipulating players to play their game.

What?
I hate to break it to you but leave society if you think that's distasteful because this is literally every company out there.
What the heck did you think advertising was? The companies past time???

I think Jaraal's point is that they are doing the manipulating badly. If ZOS were doing the job properly we either wouldn't notice, or wouldn't mind. Instead it's obvious and ineffective, thus turning it into an annoyance rather than an enticement.

Yes, there was a time when they were far more subtle and appeared less greedy about it.

I remember when they first introduced the semi-full page nag screen upon log in, you were forced to click on it, or else it would pop up every single time you swapped characters, until you acknowledged it. Players were livid about it, so they rolled it back to once per log in, but the backlash about the obviously aggressive advertising took a while to die down. Today, players are desensitized to it, but it still serves it's intended purpose.

That was the beginning of the cash shop blitz, before that it was unobtrusive, yet available whenever you wanted to use it. And it's only gone downhill from there... gem only mounts and pets, artificial scarcity with limited time offers (that sometimes come back, but you better pay now to be sure), and so forth.

There's a difference between trying to sell, and trying to make people want to buy. It's basic Marketing 101. But these folks apparently were sleeping in class, or there wouldn't be so many anti-cash shop threads.

NekoTashi

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gepe87

I miss those tristat potions (25/week)

wolf486

I've been playing Planet Zoo and Coaster lately, only logging into the MMO's I play for the daily rewards. At least I can skip ESO this month.