Is anyone actually surprised this happened (again)?

Guyle

Not surprised it happened, just by how fast and clearly unprepared for it ZoS was.

Darkenarlol

i am surprised in a good way


i was kinda terrified by amount of time/gold

needed to get all those pages in 4 days


now i have nothing to worry about

and a free holidays as a bonus

Epona222

Surprised that it went base over apex? No.

The speed with which it all went wrong was unprecedented though, before it started I'd been over-optimistic and was betting on a few more hours before group finder borked.

Aurie

No.

Both to title and OP.

Mizael

Think everyone expected this to happen

gatekeeper13

Not surprised at all. Was expecting it and never bought their lies about a "fixed" dungeon finder.

wavingblue

All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again.

Jaraal

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me ‘bout tree fiddy times.....

wolfbone

not really. they waste ,more time nerfing everything instead of actually fixing the problem.

wild_kmacdb16_ESO

They need to bite the bullet and actually upgrade the server hardware. Their optimization hack job isn’t working.

Grimm13

I've said it before in another thread. How can you code a new group finder to avoid issues when you have no idea how to fix the old one.

redgreensunset

Nope. In fact I won a guild bet about what would happen on this. I was the one who got closest as to how soon PC/EU would have its melt down and I was the only one who predicted they'd cancel. (Though I did think it'd take them at least a day to get to that point.)
I can't recall if it was Gina or Sarah who said it, but one of them stated during the Witch event that the rewriting of the activity finder had revealed some issues with the underlying structure of the database and how information was retried and I simply couldn't see how something that fundamental could be fixed in this short time span to a good enough degree that everything wouldn't come apart at the seams the moment the event began and players flocked to the dungeon finder.

So no, not in the least.

SoLooney

With zos track record, think it's safe to say a majority of players were not surprised they took this down

akl77

I’ll be surprised if the queue actually work, the bg queue still not working now after 2 weeks on ps4 na, and they don’t even have a word on it, just plain ignoring it. I’m sure their coder have no fix and not able to code something that works than previous version.

Jaimeh

I don't think anyone's really surprised, there'd be more angry threads if that was the case... my impression is tiredness, disappointment, and maybe a dash of secret relief, because that event was the cherry on top of a 'it's too much' cake.

Morvane

imgur.com/lFO3v22

Goregrinder

Having worked in IT and technical support for years....I am never surprised when a computer breaks.

Guyle

Goregrinder wrote: »

Having worked in IT and technical support for years....I am never surprised when a computer breaks.

Okay, maybe the right thing to ask you would be, would you have been surprised if it had worked?

grannas211

https://youtu.be/KjmjqlOPd6A

VaranisArano

I expected the usual primetime meltdown - bad on NA and awful on EU.

I didn't expect the EU meltdown to happen in the first hour. That's a whole new standard of awful.

Shantu

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Not surprised at all. Was expecting it and never bought their lies about a "fixed" dungeon finder.

I don't think they lie, but given the continued performance issues, and absolute predictability of the current fiasco, you'd think someone in upper management would seriously question competence. This is just getting silly. If I were responsible for the ongoing development I would be hiding in a closet right now.

JamuThatsWho

Honestly? No. And that saddens me greatly.

OnlyOnThursday

They very clearly do not care to take care of their game or provide any actual value for the money they earn.

It's a cash grab

Isn't that right @ZOS_GinaBruno

Cavedog

Epona222 wrote: »

Surprised that it went base over apex? No.

The speed with which it all went wrong was unprecedented though, before it started I'd been over-optimistic and was betting on a few more hours before group finder borked.

Ok, this is off topic and irrelevant....but it's Bjorked. The term comes from a botched supreme court justice nomination that went wildly off course. It's a mans name, not just a term that's worked its way into our lexicon.

Verbal_Earthworm

Nope.

Cavedog

wild_kmacdb16_ESO wrote: »

They need to bite the bullet and actually upgrade the server hardware. Their optimization hack job isn’t working.

DING! Give the man a prize, because he nailed the landing.

The solution to this issue is to stop skimping on servers. We keep paying full price while ZOS puts it's game on servers built in the 1980's.

Goregrinder

Guyle wrote: »

Goregrinder wrote: »

Having worked in IT and technical support for years....I am never surprised when a computer breaks.

Okay, maybe the right thing to ask you would be, would you have been surprised if it had worked?

I am surprised everyday when stuff actually works. Electrons going through transistors and substrate, being converted into a digital signal, then getting shot through miles and miles of glass....I'm always surprised this sh*% actually works.

FierceSam

Not in the slightest.

To the extent that I don’t know anyone who thought the event would run for an hour, let alone 4 days.

If we are to take a tiny positive from this, it’s that the event collapsed because too many players wanted to take part.

And that the knock on effect of this will be felt by all players, including all the friends of all the people who work at ZOS. It will be impossible for anyone there to deny to need for urgent action to address this issue.

ZOS need to take their heads out of a “gradual failure” mentality, which essentially imagines the audience declining over time with minimal investment in anything other than a bit of content, to “planning for success” where they actively work to improve the technology behind the game.

They need to do this fast because, make no mistake, this is an utter disaster for them. An emperor’s new clothes moment where they are caught parading around with a game that simply can’t deliver. What they do now will define how the game is perceived and they need to get it right.

Because if they don’t, their gradual failure will become a total collapse.

haelene

Cavedog wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

Surprised that it went base over apex? No.

The speed with which it all went wrong was unprecedented though, before it started I'd been over-optimistic and was betting on a few more hours before group finder borked.

Ok, this is off topic and irrelevant....but it's Bjorked. The term comes from a botched supreme court justice nomination that went wildly off course. It's a mans name, not just a term that's worked its way into our lexicon.

To add to this wildly off topic reply with my own wildly off topic reply.

His name was Robert Bork and it is indeed borked.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/borked

Alomar

But....but....but....they just released Part 1 of their performance improvements meant to correct the day 1 broken lfg feature....Are you perhaps suggesting....that ZOS is incompetent? Say it ain't so!

Chicharron