Unbelievable how much of the game was nerfed this year!

Somber97866

Max magic through food
Recovery through increased cost
Idk if the recovery on food was nerfed?
Aoe damage nerfed
Dots buffed but then nerfed ( seems they buffed dots and nerfed food to come back and take away the dot buff......slick,lol)
Number of sets nerfed
Major vulnerabilty nerf
Class skills nerfed ( some )
Class passive nerfed ( some)
Ulti's damage nerfed ( some )
Added a cast time to ulti's ( this is a nerf)
Am I missing anything?

Somber97866

Not just max magic but all food was nerfed.

Somber97866

I feel like I'm missing stuff............

Thannazzar

The amount of subs and active players was also heavily nerfed as a consequence of the above.

ChunkyCat

bring back original Sloads!

Somber97866

Sloads huh? You really worried about sloads? Ok..............

BlueRaven

Somber97866 wrote: »

Max magic through food
Recovery through increased cost
Idk if the recovery on food was nerfed?
Aoe damage nerfed
Dots buffed but then nerfed ( seems they buffed dots and nerfed food to come back and take away the dot buff......slick,lol)
Number of sets nerfed
Major vulnerabilty nerf
Class skills nerfed ( some )
Class passive nerfed ( some)
Ulti's damage nerfed ( some )
Added a cast time to ulti's ( this is a nerf)
Am I missing anything?

They basically made bosmers pointless. (And I am told argonians.)

Salvas_Aren

Unbelieveable someone can state that the combat team knows what they do.

landsbergis

While some builds and specs were havily readjusted I personally like the balance we're at right now. You just have to manage your sustain and sometimes make some changes to your build. Want extra max stats? Use bi-stat food. More recovery but less max stats? Drink.

I absolutely love seeing that support sets like sentinel of rkugamz and symphony of blades along with hircine or hollowfang are used by healers and even tanks in pve. And as for pvp, everything is sustainable if you are careful with your stat pools. Sets like grundwulf, engine guardian, seducer and battlefield acrobat are great options to help you out.

And all the content is still beatable. Support roles feel like support and are needed in most content.

That's my personal opinion

myskyrim26

Somber97866 wrote: »

Am I missing anything?

Yep. Access to the storyline is nerfed: hidden behind DLC dungeons. Those who run dungeons don't give a guar for the lore and chapter/dlc stories. Those interested in lore and stories - majority of them - are not so good in combat to do dungeons.

Fallen_Ray

landsbergis wrote: »

While some builds and specs were havily readjusted I personally like the balance we're at right now. You just have to manage your sustain and sometimes make some changes to your build. Want extra max stats? Use bi-stat food. More recovery but less max stats? Drink.

I absolutely love seeing that support sets like sentinel of rkugamz and symphony of blades along with hircine or hollowfang are used by healers and even tanks in pve. And as for pvp, everything is sustainable if you are careful with your stat pools. Sets like grundwulf, engine guardian, seducer and battlefield acrobat are great options to help you out.

And all the content is still beatable. Support roles feel like support and are needed in most content.

That's my personal opinion

You're out of your mind.

GrimTheReaper45

Somber97866 wrote: »

Max magic through food
Recovery through increased cost
Idk if the recovery on food was nerfed?
Aoe damage nerfed
Dots buffed but then nerfed ( seems they buffed dots and nerfed food to come back and take away the dot buff......slick,lol)
Number of sets nerfed
Major vulnerabilty nerf
Class skills nerfed ( some )
Class passive nerfed ( some)
Ulti's damage nerfed ( some )
Added a cast time to ulti's ( this is a nerf)
Am I missing anything?

Sheields
raicals
healing
minor toughness off warhorn (might be more than a year now)

Shantu

The biggest nerf of all...fun. Not sure in what universe countless hours of time and effort rendered meaningless adds up to anything resembling fun.

NBrookus

You forgot potions and speed

FierceSam

You forgot, “So I’m leaving...”

Can I have your stuff

Veinblood1965

This thread has been locked due it's non-constructive nature. (In before lock!).

Somber97866

Yeah probably so lol

f047ys3v3n

Honestly, I'm pretty surprised how well my current build is doing when it comes to dps. It is not anything like the elsewhere patch but it is not bad at all and with good sustain.

I do miss having good AOE from lightning flood though and my tank misses the synergies. Really, the only thing the raid groups I have been running with are lacking is good AOE. Probably adds / trash could do with a nerf to compensate for how little AOE we have now and all would be just fine.

For what it is worth, I thought will all the mega nerfs that things would be much worse. I probably should keep my mouth shut. ZOS will find what I am doing and nerf everything I love again.

Somber97866

It's a nightmare on console

Vanos444

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Unbelieveable someone can state that the combat team knows what they do.

I believe they know what they're doing...
I trust them and I hope to see the numbers dwindling. ^^

SirDopey

Yeah, but they added a set behind a paywall that increases your damage by 20% XD

idk

What is truly unbelievable is the huge power creep we have had for the past few years, virtually unchecked. Getting it dialed back a bit is a good thing. Not that I like the homogenization and would have preferred that Zos managed this game properly from the start. Heck, I am just hoping I will enjoy combat once all this is completed..

Indoril_Nerevar

Somber97866 wrote: »

Max magic through food
Recovery through increased cost
Idk if the recovery on food was nerfed?
Aoe damage nerfed
Dots buffed but then nerfed ( seems they buffed dots and nerfed food to come back and take away the dot buff......slick,lol)
Number of sets nerfed
Major vulnerabilty nerf
Class skills nerfed ( some )
Class passive nerfed ( some)
Ulti's damage nerfed ( some )
Added a cast time to ulti's ( this is a nerf)
Am I missing anything?

Damage Shields were reduced again.


LOL they are on Meth.

Jaraal

Moonsorrow

landsbergis wrote: »

sentinel of rkugamz

Wait.. what?

I do not often say this since can almost always find atleast a theoretical/fun use for most sets, but Rkugamz was nerfed to be pretty much pointless and as a support better to slot dps set instead if not need a pure healing set, fight over faster than what resources Rkugamz would give to that same goal.

A strong IMO type of feeling.

But, does anyone spend 2 gear slots for Rkugamz anymore?

mocap

and people still do 90k parses
All those nerfs hitted medium players, who can't (don't want?) to adapt and change something.

Also, don't forget ESO is meta balanced game. What is bad today tomorrow will be good and vice versa.

myskyrim26

mocap wrote: »

All those nerfs hitted medium players, who can't (don't want?) to adapt and change something.

Medium players who can't, and some don't want to adapt to this crazy merry-go-round are the majority. The ones who pay money. Th game should have 2 options - hard for those who want to master the ever changing combat and easy for those who think it is crazy, newplayers and average players.

Tommy_The_Gun

Somber97866 wrote: »

Am I missing anything?

Werewolf. ZOS made it useless & obsolete in pretty much all type of content (group / solo PvP / PvE) and pretty much only with one morph option. Even pre - Wolfhunter ww felt better than what we have now...

Also I would add racial rebalance to the mix, as we have ended up with 2 bis races and 2 ultra useless races and the rest that could be described as "meh".

Ysbriel

They have ruined a lot of peoples gameplay and left them hanging with no real option. Apologists will say things like "all mmo games nerf' "power creeping" and such but fail to understand is that what made this game stand out over other games was the play as you want idea that is not longer there for many people and not mention a lot of newer people trying find their way into being effective suddenly meeting that nerf wall.

Indoril_Nerevar

Ysbriel wrote: »

They have ruined a lot of peoples gameplay and left them hanging with no real option. Apologists will say things like "all mmo games nerf' "power creeping" and such but fail to understand is that what made this game stand out over other games was the play as you want idea that is not longer there for many people and not mention a lot of newer people trying find their way into being effective suddenly meeting that nerf wall.

Very well said.

Mayrael

I may have unpopular opinion, but TBH I like state of the game we have currently. Much less cheese left. Remember bleeds? Enchants procing of dots? Spin2Win? Dizzy spam everywhere?

Yeah, it's less fun when your crutch has been taken away but in general its healthier.

You can tell me now why I'm clueless scrub...