All chars are witches?

casparian

People who actually call themselves witches IRL do not use it as a gendered term and have not done so for a very long time.

Lady_Linux

I do not play a witch. therefor all characters are not witches.

Raisin

Can we all just agree that being a Witch has nothing to do with gender, and everything to do with weighing the same as a duck? It's 2019 guys, use your education...

CaiWenji

Drachenfier

Witch is gender neutral...Malekith is the Witch King after all

wolfie1.0.

Which witch title are we talking about? Is it the witch title which you get from witch writs? If so then any person which completes witch writs should be a witch.

Minyassa

JPS wrote: »

https://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/witch

I see nothing gender neutral here.

4 : an adherent of Wicca <<<<<<<<

Of course they are missing the myriad of non-Wiccan practitioners of witchcraft here, but same principle applies.

PrayingSeraph

I hope we can get the title of "WitchHunter" later. It would be great for my templar character

Grimm13

oddbasket wrote: »

Nothing's wrong here

Hermione, you really need to get that poly potion right...

Saelent

In the context of this game I don’t think the title ‘Witch’ was meant to include any Wiccans.

During the witch trials a witch was burned whether a man, woman or child, they were still called a witch and they were given much the same treatment with the title.
Considering I hate the way the Werewolf Lord polymorph looks on females (I’d gladly take the male form for my gals, I wish there was a choice) I’d be even more pissed if the name brigade manage to get the men a different title that I can’t collect since I don’t play male characters.

A witch is a witch, a wizard is a wizard and a warlock is a warlock. It’s different magic, you wouldn’t call a female necromancer a templar.

Edited for ‘would’ to ‘wouldn’t’

IndianaJames7

No, not everyone is a witch. Some people sink.

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK

Witch= Female
Wizard= Male

Source... Harry Potter

Hallothiel

So what’s the female version of pirate then?!

zaria

JPS wrote: »

https://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/witch

I see nothing gender neutral here.

Yes however empiror is also the title for the pieing other players in Cyrodil during jester event also for females.
Yes empires is a word for multiple empires to but you you would not confuse it for empress more than empiror and emperor.

On the other hand warlock in modern pop culture is not an male witch.
Hedge wizard perhaps.
And TES is not this world.

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK

Hallothiel wrote: »

So what’s the female version of pirate then?!

They didnt exist, only Rodger the cabin boy

Monte_Cristo

Because witches and warlocks aren't the same thing? Different types/uses of magic. In game class contest, a warlock would be like sorcerers and necromancers, while witches would be closer to a warden (plant skills, mostly) with a large focus on alchemy and enchanting.

OG_Kaveman

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

Because witches and warlocks aren't the same thing? Different types/uses of magic. In game class contest, a warlock would be like sorcerers and necromancers, while witches would be closer to a warden (plant skills, mostly) with a large focus on alchemy and enchanting.

Or, you know, they can be anything because this is elder scrolls. Not any other fiction.

Tai-Chi

Whatever the case may be irl - and there are valid arguments for both sides - it is easy to forget that this is a TES game and not real life.

If "Witch" is a title that is assigned to either male or female, then so be it. Who are we to argue the rights and wrongs of it? We can of course express our objections to it and debate the merits of each side until the cows come home.

Just as an aside, in ESO the Daedra 'god's' title is "Prince" and not "Prince" or "Princess", so "Witch" as a non-gender title is quite in keeping with the Lore.

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

Because witches and warlocks aren't the same thing? Different types/uses of magic. In game class contest, a warlock would be like sorcerers and necromancers, while witches would be closer to a warden (plant skills, mostly) with a large focus on alchemy and enchanting.

Or, you know, they can be anything because this is elder scrolls. Not any other fiction.

PlAy HoW yOu WaNt

zaria

Aznarb wrote: »

Because dress probably !

Looks nice and its something an npc could wear too. Yes its a bit too new motifs and over the top, but not much.

OG_Kaveman

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Monte_Cristo wrote: »

Because witches and warlocks aren't the same thing? Different types/uses of magic. In game class contest, a warlock would be like sorcerers and necromancers, while witches would be closer to a warden (plant skills, mostly) with a large focus on alchemy and enchanting.

Or, you know, they can be anything because this is elder scrolls. Not any other fiction.

PlAy HoW yOu WaNt

I mean, look at how people cry about the dragons in the game not being really dragons, but wyverns or whatever, that is what I am talking about.

max_only

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »

Witch= Female
Wizard= Male

Source... Harry Potter

Dragons in Harry Potter don’t talk. The dragons on Mundus/Nirn/Tamriel do talk. They speak multiple languages in fact.

Harry Potter universe is not the same as the Elder Scrolls universe.

vivisectvib16_ESO

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Why are male chars witches?

For obvious reasons you would not name them witchers here, but how about warlocks?

Witch is not a female specific word and has no gender binary. You're letting pop culture influence your interpretation of that term.

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK

max_only wrote: »

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »

Witch= Female
Wizard= Male

Source... Harry Potter

Dragons in Harry Potter don’t talk. The dragons on Mundus/Nirn/Tamriel do talk. They speak multiple languages in fact.

Harry Potter universe is not the same as the Elder Scrolls universe.

We're talking about witches and genders, not dragons lol

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK

vivisectvib16_ESO wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Why are male chars witches?

For obvious reasons you would not name them witchers here, but how about warlocks?

Witch is not a female specific word and has no gender binary. You're letting pop culture influence your interpretation of that term.

Never heard of a Male witch, ever in my 31 years of existence

OG_Kaveman

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DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »

Witch= Female
Wizard= Male

Source... Harry Potter

Dragons in Harry Potter don’t talk. The dragons on Mundus/Nirn/Tamriel do talk. They speak multiple languages in fact.

Harry Potter universe is not the same as the Elder Scrolls universe.

We're talking about witches and genders, not dragons lol

We are talking about fictional information, fictional. Witches and dragons don't exist. So in the elder scrolls fiction, witches can be any gender. In the elder scrolls fiction dragons only have 4 limbs, not 6. Etc etc.

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »

vivisectvib16_ESO wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Why are male chars witches?

For obvious reasons you would not name them witchers here, but how about warlocks?

Witch is not a female specific word and has no gender binary. You're letting pop culture influence your interpretation of that term.

Never heard of a Male witch, ever in my 31 years of existence

I am sure there is loads of stuff you have never heard of. Being only 31. Males being called witches is not that far fetched.

Leeched

I wanted the title for my main (male mag sorc) when I saw the title in the german client is called "Hexer" which definetely IS the male form of 'witch' (aka 'witcher'). The female title in the german client is "Hexe" ('witch).
Now I have the title and dont use it cause for most people of the playerbase it would just say 'witch' and FOR ME a witch is female, not male ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mayasunrising

DaNnYtHePcFrEaK wrote: »

vivisectvib16_ESO wrote: »

Salvas_Aren wrote: »

Why are male chars witches?

For obvious reasons you would not name them witchers here, but how about warlocks?

Witch is not a female specific word and has no gender binary. You're letting pop culture influence your interpretation of that term.

Never heard of a Male witch, ever in my 31 years of existence

I was in a coven when I was younger and 6 of our 13 were male (2 of the 6 were jerks...but that's another story. lol). Most covens have both a High Priestess and High Priest to help balance energies. Gerald Gardner is a male Wiccan best know for bringing Wicca to the attention of the modern world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Gardner_(Wiccan). Raymond Buckland is one of the most well known authors of books dealing with Wicca. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Buckland

That's just a few examples, but you could fine many more with just a quick google search.

starkerealm

mayasunrising wrote: »

Good question! Whether male, female, or other; the proper term is "witch". The term Warlock was actually a derogatory term used by witch hunters during the times of mass witch burnings and persecution. Warlock means "oathbreaker." Oathbreaker referring to a betrayal of humankind's covenant with God.

I mean, Heretic originally just meant, "one who chooses for themselves." Though Warlock would be a pretty snazzy title.

ZOS_JesC

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