WHAT THE HELL ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO SAI SAHAN AND WHY IS HE BACK?

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So, we were supposed to give an explanation if we killed Sai instead of Varen or Lyris and I personally killed Varen cuz he old and blind and useless anyway...but I wonder since I didn't killed Sai I never get to know what happened...so I did some digging...and found this!
w0f0Zmn.png
ALL I SEE IS NO FLAT ANSWER...just dodging...we were promised a damn STRAIGHT ANSWER as how can someone that has his soul taken out of his bodies and devoured by an Aedric Artifact which renders u not dead but actually DELETED from the plane of existence...ALL OF THEM and never to return...not even Varen that I killed for the amulet and he came at the end of Orsinium and even said so that we will never see him again and that appearance is just a small remnant to carry a last warning about the things that are to come for the vestige...SO WHAT EXPLANATION?
AND at the very end of the entire Dragonhold+Elsweyr main quest you get this option/s
vSwsoYI.png
WHICH AGAIN ARE JUST (snip) DODGES...I dont see any "straight and logical explanations on how he is back" as we were told in a podcast of Q/A that would totally makes sense...
SO NO ZOS I AM NOT HAPPY...next will be Skyrim cuz you made it so clear in the whole Dragonhold playthrough and dialogues and we will get spellcrafting as well since that's also pointed out...but what explanation? so I assume that Lyris will be back in skyrim for those who killed her and she will tell us "Hey...I just found myself in the darkness falling and then I woke up at Kasura's abbey to help them rebuild"(not even to mention that its been 5 (snip) YEARS and the place looks the same with only difference that they took out the fire...great so the only carpenters left in Tamriel are Lyris and Sai Sahan… and probably Varen if u left him alive? cant wait to see him building a house while being old and blind and full of other diseases)what is this? Sylvanas syndrome of death? then a Val'kyr brings you back to life and you realize you were in your own purgatory of atonement???????


info was taken from
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Sai_Sahan

(edited for profanity)
Edited by ZOS_FalcoYamaoka on December 17, 2019 4:51PM
  • Aliyavana
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    uesp's current dialoge only covers his prolodge dialogue. ive yet to have seen if dragonhold finally answered it. Sadly I didn't make the wrong choice and sacrifice sai sahan, and instead chose the right person and sacrificed varen, so I probably wont know
  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    I didn't make the wrong choice and sacrifice sai sahan, and instead chose the right person and sacrificed varen, so I probably wont know

    Same here so why is Varen not back ? If poeple can sacrifice Sai and get him back then I want my blind old man back.
    Edited by david_m_18b16_ESO on November 11, 2019 3:58AM
  • kargen27
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    Same here so why is Varen not back ? If poeple can sacrifice Sai and get him back then I want my blind old man back.

    Varen pulled a last minute fast one for those that didn't sacrifice him. Varen knew he was the one that needed to pay the price so he caused it so no matter who you picked he was the one that went away.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • YaYaPineapple
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    You put the actual spoiler in the title...
  • Udrath
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    When I imagine Randy from South Park screaming all this text it’s great.
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    You put the actual spoiler in the title...

    Pretty much.
  • UrbanMonk
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    Same here so why is Varen not back ? If poeple can sacrifice Sai and get him back then I want my blind old man back.

    I guess Old age services are as bad in Tamriel as in our real world. No one gives a two bit about some old, blind and mostly useless except for his knowledge of scrolls.
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  • r34lian
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    It's a shame he's back such a waste of pixels
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  • JamieAubrey
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    I don't think I got an option to ask since I did this DLC on a char I haven't touched the MS on
  • Nebthet78
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    The answer you seek is the following:

    ZOS will go in and change that small tiny part of the main story that many have already played through so that they erase the part that states there is no coming back.

    How do I know???

    Because we used to have a normal looking Lamae Bal when the game was released and you did the vampire quest line and people were asking why we can't look normal AND instead of giving players what they wanted in terms of a polymorph or something, ZOS decided to go change Lamae Bal's appearance so she looks like any other damn vampire and to try to shut up the many players asking for a way to look normal.

    Far too many characters to list any more.
  • Grandma
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    they kept promising a good explanation and then the in game explanation was "idk i just woke up" like.. jesus.
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  • Everstorm
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    Why not just let Kasura rebuild the Dragonguard instead of Sai. They could have avoided this whole thing easily.
  • Contaminate
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    This is the year of Blatant Fanservice and Least Possible Effort Required, not Coherent Storytelling and Established Lore

    tl;dr We're never getting an answer lol
  • daemonios
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    This is the year of Blatant Fanservice and Least Possible Effort Required, not Coherent Storytelling and Established Lore

    tl;dr We're never getting an answer lol

    Exactly. Why are people freaking out about Sai Sahan? Look! There's dragons!
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    D R A G O N B R E A K
  • Ratzkifal
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    You put the actual spoiler in the title...
    idk wrote: »

    Pretty much.

    Not really. ZOS spoiled that themselves in their trailer and by announcing that he would be coming back before the actual prologue quest.

    Unless the title of the thread was changed, that can't really be considered a spoiler.
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • RaddlemanNumber7
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    There's a perfectly rational explanation; it's divine intervention.

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  • Cirantille
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    What happened to Razum-dar?
    He died under the cave but back in Summerset
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    I've done the quest, but still...
    Putting the actual spoiler in the title is a *** move.
    Please edit for those who haven't done it.
  • KageNin
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    Bring back Dumbledore!
    Edited by KageNin on November 11, 2019 1:11PM
  • ProfessorKittyhawk
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    Cirantille wrote: »
    What happened to Razum-dar?
    He died under the cave but back in Summerset
    Spoiler
    Actually he "dies" in Reapers March during that side quest but if you did the final main quest for that zone AFTER that you ask and he says he managed to escape as the last possible moment.
    That's why there is no explanation in Summerset because you were supposed to have done that then the final quest where he then goes on to liaise for the Messages Across Tamriel quest.
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    Sai is a pretty solid choice for sacrifice, but then again any of the companions are. Tharn is the only decent character and he's not even a choice so yeah... Sai it is.
    Edited by luen79rwb17_ESO on November 11, 2019 3:44PM
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  • Kagukan
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    i thought the story line quest answered the question well enough.
  • redgreensunset
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    Sai is a pretty solid choice for sacrifice, but then again any of the companions are. Tharn is the only decent character and he's not even a choice so yeah... Sai it is.

    Lol, Tharn was the only one I wanted to sacrifice during the main quest. Knew I couldn't because I already met him in Elsweyr but man it still bummed me out. He is bar none the most annoying character I've ever met in any mmo and though the NE storyline made me a bit warmer to him I still hope he gets eaten by a dragon at some point.
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    Udrath wrote: »
    When I imagine Randy from South Park screaming all this text it’s great.

    WHAT? A GUY CANT KNOW HOW SAI SAHAN CAME BACK? I THOUGHT THIS WAS TAMRIEL! ISNT THIS TAMRIEL? I THOUGHT WE WE'RE IN TAMRIEL!
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  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    You put the actual spoiler in the title...
    idk wrote: »

    Pretty much.

    cuz idk? maybe I was asking why did he turned into a hippie all of a sudden? so yeah no matter which stage of the quests u are in you still know something about his existence and the title isn't a spoiler...stop being snowflakes and feel special and just be helpful instead... since im just trying to piece the lore together in a way to make sense instead of just having random chunks of information threw at me that doesnt make sense.
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    People actually care about this? He's a damn cartoon character in a game. :/
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    Shantu wrote: »
    People actually care about this? He's a damn cartoon character in a game. :/

    "Cartoon"

    My eye just twitched.
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    Shantu wrote: »
    People actually care about this? He's a damn cartoon character in a game. :/

    The "Lore" is one of the biggest part of the Elder Scrolls universe. Yes, people care about it. And yes people care when ZoS keeps mucking it up!
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  • jircris11
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    So, we were supposed to give an explanation if we killed Sai instead of Varen or Lyris and I personally killed Varen cuz he old and blind and useless anyway...but I wonder since I didn't killed Sai I never get to know what happened...so I did some digging...and found this!
    w0f0Zmn.png
    ALL I SEE IS NO FLAT ANSWER...just dodging...we were promised a damn STRAIGHT ANSWER as how can someone that has his soul taken out of his bodies and devoured by an Aedric Artifact which renders u not dead but actually DELETED from the plane of existence...ALL OF THEM and never to return...not even Varen that I killed for the amulet and he came at the end of Orsinium and even said so that we will never see him again and that appearance is just a small remnant to carry a last warning about the things that are to come for the vestige...SO WHAT EXPLANATION?
    AND at the very end of the entire Dragonhold+Elsweyr main quest you get this option/s
    vSwsoYI.png
    WHICH AGAIN ARE JUST DAMN DODGES...I dont see any "straight and logical explanations on how he is back" as we were told in a podcast of Q/A that would totally makes sense...
    SO NO ZOS I AM NOT HAPPY...next will be Skyrim cuz you made it so clear in the whole Dragonhold playthrough and dialogues and we will get spellcrafting as well since that's also pointed out...but what explanation? so I assume that Lyris will be back in skyrim for those who killed her and she will tell us "Hey...I just found myself in the darkness falling and then I woke up at Kasura's abbey to help them rebuild"(not even to mention that its been 5 DAMN YEARS and the place looks the same with only difference that they took out the fire...great so the only carpenters left in Tamriel are Lyris and Sai Sahan… and probably Varen if u left him alive? cant wait to see him building a house while being old and blind and full of other diseases)what is this? Sylvanas syndrome of death? then a Val'kyr brings you back to life and you realize you were in your own purgatory of atonement???????


    info was taken from
    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Sai_Sahan

    Best I can come up with is he gained plot armor by the divines.
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