Did I miss the exact reason 7 day campaign is going away?

JerzeeDevil

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

Xologamer

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

was dead campaign. was just use to push emp

JerzeeDevil

Xologamer wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

was dead campaign. was just use to push emp

Where does that data come from, dead?

JerzeeDevil

Need some clarification, please.

Reverb

Zeni isn’t big on explaining why they do things.

Xologamer

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Xologamer wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

was dead campaign. was just use to push emp

Where does that data come from, dead?

from my own knowlesge - dont know if u ever bin there but there are nobody rly nobody
maybe if u have luck 1 keep change a day...

JerzeeDevil

Xologamer wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Xologamer wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

was dead campaign. was just use to push emp

Where does that data come from, dead?

from my own knowlesge - dont know if u ever bin there but there are nobody rly nobody
maybe if u have luck 1 keep change a day...

On PS4 (Both servers) it is pretty busy.

Emma_Overload

Xologamer wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

was dead campaign. was just use to push emp

So what do they think the new 30 day one is going to be used for?

ChunkyCat

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Does anyone know why?

Mathematology is hard

mague

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

Most probably to make room for the unlocked 30 day cp campaign.

JerzeeDevil

As if they cannot add, or subtract servers for events easily?

Shanehere

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Xologamer wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

was dead campaign. was just use to push emp

Where does that data come from, dead?

The campaign was low pop for all alliances at all hours of the day, people took advantage of it as a 7-day campaign to push emperor and nothing else really went on in there.

They replaced it with another 30-day, non-faction-locked campaign to appeal to the "masses", however that is still dead. To be fair, however, this campaign was opened up in the middle of Kaal's campaign so I'm sure people didn't want to abandon it. I truly think it will pick up once this current Kaal campaign ends, and if it doesn't everyone who was massively complaining about faction locked campaigns are clowns.

I for one love the idea, but I still remain in Kaal because it is still dead. I really do hope it picks up though.

Shanehere

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Xologamer wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

was dead campaign. was just use to push emp

So what do they think the new 30 day one is going to be used for?

It's way harder to push and maintain Emp in a 30-day then it is for a 7-day. A 7-day is still a lot of playing but in the 30-day you are basically putting your life on hold.

JerzeeDevil

Shanehere wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Xologamer wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

was dead campaign. was just use to push emp

So what do they think the new 30 day one is going to be used for?

It's way harder to push and maintain Emp in a 30-day then it is for a 7-day. A 7-day is still a lot of playing but in the 30-day you are basically putting your life on hold.

Exactly! Not everyone is unemployed, hence this thread! Some people have lives!!!

ChunkyCat

eso is life

VaranisArano

The self-evident reason is that they replaced it with the 30-day no faction lock campaign.

As for why?
They didnt exactly say.
If you kept tabs on the forum threads, there are a couple likely reasons.
Players wanted a no faction lock campaign, but they didnt want the 7-day. For one, the 7 day just plain suffered from low pop and low competition on a number of servers.
Also, the 7 day doesn't attract as many transmute farmers because it takes more work on a weekly basis in order to get less end of campaign rewards.
It's harder to emp swap between different players on the 30 day because the leaderboard doesn't reset every week.

So whether or not the new 30 day campaign gains in regular population after the Kaal campaign ends (and who at ZOS thought offsetting the campaigns was a good idea?), one group that the new 30 day will help is players who just want to farm transmute stones on all their characters. Woot?

technohic

Really I think it's just to shut up anti-faction lock crowd. Their reason to not go there before was 7 day rewards vs 30. Now it is that it's not listed first on the list and people who PVP somehow cant afford 100k AP to rehome. Maybe they'll next.put it at the top of the list, but then it will be too many people logged in already in the faction locked server.

Real reason is most players dont care either way so long as they are in the "main" /busy campaign which is really what everyone is admitting when they blame it on not being listed first. I mean; no CP isnt listed first, and while it's not pop locking, it certainly gets more life than the no faction lock campaigns, because people care to play without CP.

JerzeeDevil

I know they didn't say! I am trying to get a real answer

Seems like; those who moaned the LOUDEST (those that CRIED about Faction lock) got what they wanted, I agree.

Who can we tag to get a legit answer, though?

Royaji

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Who can we tag to get a legit answer, though?

I think your best bet is something like @ legit

NBrookus

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Xologamer wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Yolnakhriin,..... R.I.P. (In a long line of now-gone servers, I might add)

Does anyone know why?

was dead campaign. was just use to push emp

So what do they think the new 30 day one is going to be used for?

It's for pretending to respond to the people annoyed at faction lock, without addressing the issue that there simply aren't enough people still willing to put up with the pvp performance issues to fill a second campaign.

Also... standardization!

JerzeeDevil

@ZOS_GinaBruno

nryerson1025

The new 30 day is deader than the 7 day ever was. Rip shor/yolo

technohic

nryerson1025 wrote: »

The new 30 day is deader than the 7 day ever was. Rip shor/yolo

Well when it was 7 days, you could go gangbusters for a week and get EMP. The next week someone else could and they could flip back and forth. they still do map flipping there now but things are pretty serious a week in and everyone probably has tier 1 on all their alts for transmutes at the end of the month.

Game has deep issues in promoting healthy play it fails to even attempt in either locked or unlocked campaigns.

nryerson1025

technohic wrote: »

nryerson1025 wrote: »

The new 30 day is deader than the 7 day ever was. Rip shor/yolo

Well when it was 7 days, you could go gangbusters for a week and get EMP. The next week someone else could and they could flip back and forth. they still do map flipping there now but things are pretty serious a week in and everyone probably has tier 1 on all their alts for transmutes at the end of the month.

Game has deep issues in promoting healthy play it fails to even attempt in either locked or unlocked campaigns.

you guys definitely come in and bring action when you're here but friday night for a few hours does not represent the campaign. it is dead 24 hours a day, 5 or 6 days a week. except fridays and saturdays, where each faction has the high end of one bar for 2 hours

Kartalin

The hope is that once the current Kaal campaign is the guilds will migrate to the new unlocked campaign where presumably unincorporated players will follow.

What really works against this is the way the campaign was introduced — with the vast majority of players still homed in Kaal mid-campaign. That gives Kaal a lot of gravity that may be impossible to break. Because if a migration doesn’t happen in two weeks then the unlocked campaign may never get off the ground.

MajBludd

New unlocked will be Shor 2.0. If people were wanting to play unlocked they'd have played the 7 Day. What was the reasoning that the multi faction players didnt play there?

If you dont get a significant amount of the players to move there it wont get off the ground. Then you'll get everybody jumping to the dominant faction like it always happens in unlocked.

Rarely do the faction hoppers go to the weakest faction like the claim to do.

JerzeeDevil

I just wish we could get an official comment as to why.

Xarc

7days was empty + empfarming campaign.

The new 30days is empty atm because players from other 30days campaign didnt switched atm, for many reasons like maybe because the campaign did not ended yet, or maybe because they know the campaign is empty etc.

But, be smart
If some guilds in opposed faction are agree to go play in this campaign, step by step, the campaign will be alive. It is normal at the moment

MajBludd

@JerzeeDevil like the name. I remember them teaching us about the Jersey Devil in elementary school.

Of course we would scare the crap out of ourselves when we'd go out into the woods hunting for him.

JerzeeDevil

MajBludd wrote: »

@JerzeeDevil like the name. I remember them teaching us about the Jersey Devil in elementary school.

Of course we would scare the crap out of ourselves when we'd go out into the woods hunting for him.

I'm from NJ

Alucu

Xarcus wrote: »

7days was empty + empfarming campaign.

The new 30days is empty atm because players from other 30days campaign didnt switched atm, for many reasons like maybe because the campaign did not ended yet, or maybe because they know the campaign is empty etc.

But, be smart
If some guilds in opposed faction are agree to go play in this campaign, step by step, the campaign will be alive. It is normal at the moment

I just hope you are right, today I saw 2 bar of AD at laatvulon.