sums up faction lock.

DeathPK

Nemesis7884

can i buy those *** enlargment pills on there?

BigBragg

Maybe you could take this time to clean up your add-ons. Seems like you have two different ones to show you Skyshards locations.

Pauls

DC took the map, and… ?

Tommy_The_Gun

This is an old screenshot (look at the campaign name) from long before the faction look. Map was yellow 90% of times there.
Sorry OP, but you are wrong. Faction Lock has nothing to do with night / morning capping.

Situations like that were notorious in the past. PvP campaign won by doing PvE stuff (PvDooring empty keeps, fighting only against NPCs and getting sit ton of points over night / early in the morning). It was one of the reasons I stopped PvP-ing.

Looking at your screenshot OP, I see nothing has chnaged since.
If ZOS would want to really address the issue, we would have campaign score based on population (if you cap the map when enemy faction has 0 people to defend, you get 10X less potential points etc.)

EmEm_Oh

DeathPK wrote: »

Does not sum up faction lock. That kind of map happened BEFORE FL was even official.

Maybe take a screenshot once every hour...for 2 weeks and THEN come here and complain.

Delparis

yeah worst thing they added this faction lock

InvictusApollo

Delparis wrote: »

yeah worst thing they added this faction lock

Could you please turn to the other side? You make us - people against faction lock, look bad. Please become faction loyalist and use your hard earned status of forum troll against their cause.

validifyedneb18_ESO

Thing is, its not even good for the blue-balls-band, as they now have nothing to do to gain more AP besides ganking the few people still trying to play the campaign.

fastolfv_ESO

this isnt a faction lock issue this is a dying games issue. Primetime all 3 sides go between 2 bars to locked up and back in a completely unhealthy fashion. Much lower pops mean more chances of one or two sides being completely empty like now during the afternoon for dc resulting in that terrible map

Ryath_Waylander

No it doesn't actually. You fail to specify the server/campaign/time of day/timezone. Also absent is the population stats.It's a sloppy post thrown out there for sympathy and support of your opinion.

Of course it's a forum, so you are free to do so and others are free to agree or disagree but at least put some effort into it if you're hoping to sway opinion. I regularly used to wake up to mainly yellow and red maps like this but also blue, long before faction lock.

idk

EmEm_Oh wrote: »

DeathPK wrote: »

Does not sum up faction lock. That kind of map happened BEFORE FL was even official.

Maybe take a screenshot once every hour...for 2 weeks and THEN come here and complain.

It does not even show what campaign it was in. Heck, they could be talking about a low pop campaign at 3 AM local time for the campaign. In other words it pretty much lacks context and meaning.

TequilaFire

A small group can paint a map like that if it is not defended, especially with the hammer.
Maybe EP and AD should stay up all night as well.

xxthir13enxx

But....

TequilaFire wrote: »

A small group can paint a map like that if it is not defended, especially with the hammer.
Maybe EP and AD should stay up all night as well.

Sorry no.....I need my beauty sleep...

Katahdin

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

This is an old screenshot (look at the campaign name) from long before the faction look. Map was yellow 90% of times there.
Sorry OP, but you are wrong. Faction Lock has nothing to do with night / morning capping.

Situations like that were notorious in the past. PvP campaign won by doing PvE stuff (PvDooring empty keeps, fighting only against NPCs and getting sit ton of points over night / early in the morning). It was one of the reasons I stopped PvP-ing.

Looking at your screenshot OP, I see nothing has chnaged since.
If ZOS would want to really address the issue, we would have campaign score based on population (if you cap the map when enemy faction has 0 people to defend, you get 10X less potential points etc.)

Which platform and server? PC EU? Because before faction lock on PCNA, EP was mostly leading every campaign

deviousthevile

You mean the worse thing they BROUGHT BACK was faction lock. Does no one remember the beginning when factions were locked and you could die and port to a forward camp all the way across the map? How about those Mage Guards that you could place 5 and take a whole Keep alone? How about a certain AD DK emp that never ran out of Ultimate cuz Dragon set was broken so bad and could take the whole map alone, even if people were defending. Forget where we came from and you will lose sight of where we are going. And Death, I think you're a good enough guy, but you forgot to mention that right before that 'peak time' map DC was down to just Warden and Rayles. So you are trying to manipulate people to think like you and it's bogus.

El_Borracho

Yay, another nightcapping complaint thread that forgets 90% of the world is in a different time zone than the OP, yet thinks the game should only cater to his schedule

Tommy_The_Gun

Katahdin wrote: »

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

This is an old screenshot (look at the campaign name) from long before the faction look. Map was yellow 90% of times there.
Sorry OP, but you are wrong. Faction Lock has nothing to do with night / morning capping.

Situations like that were notorious in the past. PvP campaign won by doing PvE stuff (PvDooring empty keeps, fighting only against NPCs and getting sit ton of points over night / early in the morning). It was one of the reasons I stopped PvP-ing.

Looking at your screenshot OP, I see nothing has chnaged since.
If ZOS would want to really address the issue, we would have campaign score based on population (if you cap the map when enemy faction has 0 people to defend, you get 10X less potential points etc.)

Which platform and server? PC EU? Because before faction lock on PCNA, EP was mostly leading every campaign

PC EU if I recall correctly.

deviousthevile

This is about PC-NA 30 day campaign

Emmagoldman

whew, well that was a solid investigation. To think, all this time I thought that poor performance and lack of development was an issue

Ryath_Waylander

xxthir13enxx wrote: »

But....

TequilaFire wrote: »

A small group can paint a map like that if it is not defended, especially with the hammer.
Maybe EP and AD should stay up all night as well.

Sorry no.....I need my beauty sleep...

Awwww sweeet the kitten I mean

AhPook_Is_Here

El_Borracho wrote: »

Yay, another nightcapping complaint thread that forgets 90% of the world is in a different time zone than the OP, yet thinks the game should only cater to his schedule

I mean technically it's 95.8334%, I guess that is the problem with citing erroneous statistics.

Kagukan

FALSE! This kind of thing happened before faction lock.

Tan9oSuccka

El_Borracho wrote: »

Yay, another nightcapping complaint thread that forgets 90% of the world is in a different time zone than the OP, yet thinks the game should only cater to his schedule

I think people understand that others may be in different locales.

Thing is, “nightcapping” kills PvP more than anything else in my opinion. More than faction lock concerns.

I spend all of my play time fighting NA prime time contested keeps, dethroning emperors and running scrolls.

Only to find a few people flipped empty keeps, crowned and gated at 3 AM.

(And then proceed to defend like they earned it)

I’ve literally heard other players say “Well, good job today guys. They’ll be back at 4 AM to flip the empty keeps. We’ll be gated again tomorrow.”

Loralai_907

I don't blame this on faction lock, but it is pretty lame. Last night DC had almost every keep, had EMP, had all the scrolls and somehow the hammer spawned behind their gates. It was not a good time lol. I finally logged off when trying to defend the last AD keep against 20 DC, I was the only person trying to not lose the keep. Not 3 minutes before that I had 6-10 other AD there helping retake resources and then they just vanished. So that was fun. But, I'm super tired and very complany about all this because it just bums me out so much. Its not even about like, hey DC let me win like I'm a 5 year old. Its just I want to have better fights, and for there to be some degree of a chance at not losing the entire gdam map twice a day. To me, the fact that we are spending so much of the day with DC having twice as many people on as the other two factions do, is kind of saying something about the state of things. The fact that so many people left no CP to play on CP and the numbers are still this garbage is saying something. And I don't think that gating the other two factions for as much of the day as they can is necessarily going to make things nay better. I'm concerned that it will make things worse, more people will just stop trying to login and go out there.

El_Borracho

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Yay, another nightcapping complaint thread that forgets 90% of the world is in a different time zone than the OP, yet thinks the game should only cater to his schedule

I think people understand that others may be in different locales.

Thing is, this kills PvP more than anything else in my opinion. More than faction lock concerns.

I spend all of my play time fighting NA prime time contested keeps, dethroning emperors and running scrolls.

Only to find a few people flipped empty keeps, crowned and gated at 3 AM.

(And then proceed to defend like they earned it)

But, isn't this the point of the game? To have a campaign where the other 2 factions can win and lose territory over a lengthy period of time?

Sounds like you should be pushing for 4 hour or 8 hour campaign. Because anything longer will have this issue.

Tan9oSuccka

El_Borracho wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Yay, another nightcapping complaint thread that forgets 90% of the world is in a different time zone than the OP, yet thinks the game should only cater to his schedule

I think people understand that others may be in different locales.

Thing is, this kills PvP more than anything else in my opinion. More than faction lock concerns.

I spend all of my play time fighting NA prime time contested keeps, dethroning emperors and running scrolls.

Only to find a few people flipped empty keeps, crowned and gated at 3 AM.

(And then proceed to defend like they earned it)

But, isn't this the point of the game? To have a campaign where the other 2 factions can win and lose territory over a lengthy period of time?

Sounds like you should be pushing for 4 hour or 8 hour campaign. Because anything longer will have this issue.

I get where you are coming from. I really do.

Thing is, people get to a point where they say: What for?

My efforts are completely wasted each and every day.

El_Borracho

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Tan9oSuccka wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Yay, another nightcapping complaint thread that forgets 90% of the world is in a different time zone than the OP, yet thinks the game should only cater to his schedule

I think people understand that others may be in different locales.

Thing is, this kills PvP more than anything else in my opinion. More than faction lock concerns.

I spend all of my play time fighting NA prime time contested keeps, dethroning emperors and running scrolls.

Only to find a few people flipped empty keeps, crowned and gated at 3 AM.

(And then proceed to defend like they earned it)

But, isn't this the point of the game? To have a campaign where the other 2 factions can win and lose territory over a lengthy period of time?

Sounds like you should be pushing for 4 hour or 8 hour campaign. Because anything longer will have this issue.

I get where you are coming from. I really do.

Thing is, people get to a point where they say: What for?

My efforts are completely wasted each and every day.

Oh, don't get me wrong, its frustrating. Not making fun of you. But the way its set up, this is what happens, and I think its intentional. Otherwise, it would get stagnant.

I actually wish they had blitz-type campaigns. I think it would be way more fun and would probably attract more people to PVP. I primarily PVE, but do PVP on occasion. Got to say, when you look at the map and its either all your faction, or none of your faction, kind of turns me off because you know there there's not going to be any constant action. If you could have something that was 4 hours it would be nonstop as its a real race against the clock.

Katahdin

One way to look at that map is that's a whole lot of AP to earn getting those keeps back.

Assuming DC let's you.

Kagukan

By the way. During prime time PC NA, when populations equal out, I have seen DC be pushed back to their gates.

Pauls

mommadani907 wrote: »

I don't blame this on faction lock, but it is pretty lame. Last night DC had almost every keep, had EMP, had all the scrolls and somehow the hammer spawned behind their gates. It was not a good time lol. I finally logged off when trying to defend the last AD keep against 20 DC, I was the only person trying to not lose the keep. Not 3 minutes before that I had 6-10 other AD there helping retake resources and then they just vanished. So that was fun. But, I'm super tired and very complany about all this because it just bums me out so much. Its not even about like, hey DC let me win like I'm a 5 year old. Its just I want to have better fights, and for there to be some degree of a chance at not losing the entire gdam map twice a day. To me, the fact that we are spending so much of the day with DC having twice as many people on as the other two factions do, is kind of saying something about the state of things. The fact that so many people left no CP to play on CP and the numbers are still this garbage is saying something. And I don't think that gating the other two factions for as much of the day as they can is necessarily going to make things nay better. I'm concerned that it will make things worse, more people will just stop trying to login and go out there.

Dont worry, AD morning cap works like clock, so you can call this situation balanced.