We need a minimap...

MentalxHammer

As a console player who doesn't have access to addons I think it's ridiculous that we dont have a minimap. I'm so sick of briefly pausing to access a simple feature. I know we are seeing a few qol improvements in the next few patches, please give us a minimap as a base feature!!

VaranisArano

It should be easy to implememt as an option. PC addons just reactivate the minimap that's already in the game code.

BigBragg

I'm okay with this idea as long as it is a togglable option, as I personally like not having one clutter up my screen.

Danikat

I am on PC so not directly affected, but I agree this would be a really helpful addition.

A mini map is the one addon I knew I'd want right away because I have no sense of direction and it's even worse in games. Without a mini map I frequently end up going off in the wrong direction and have to open the map every so often to make sure I'm not going in circles. (I know you can set custom markers that show up on the compass, and I do that too, but it's not enough, especially in places where you can't go in a straight line.)

idk

This is just one of several basic features that should be added to the base game UI. Ofc, being able to toggle it is important and I like it disappearing when in combat.

Ardaghion

I'm on Xbox and would love the mini-map, the way the roads and paths meander it's easy to get lost, even with a compass heading or waypoint marker.

It should also be toggleable similar to resource bars, always on, always off, show only when sprinting or mounted. Or something like that.

COFFAN

BigBragg wrote: »

I'm okay with this idea as long as it is a togglable option, as I personally like not having one clutter up my screen.

This said it all. If you can’t toggle it, I don’t want it

EdoKeledus

As a PC player I have never used the mini map add on, I think this kind of tool breaks the immersion.

Remember when you had to find a "safe zone" then open your map to know where to go or visit all the map to find new locations.

If we get a mini map, it should be empty and will have to be completed thank to the players' discoveries.

Elsonso

VaranisArano wrote: »

It should be easy to implememt as an option. PC addons just reactivate the minimap that's already in the game code.

...and ZOS cannot be bothered to activate this for us.

MentalxHammer

Well there is obviously overwhelming support for this basic feature, pretty please ZOS!

Jeremy

MentalxHammer wrote: »

As a console player who doesn't have access to addons I think it's ridiculous that we dont have a minimap. I'm so sick of briefly pausing to access a simple feature. I know we are seeing a few qol improvements in the next few patches, please give us a minimap as a base feature!!

I like the current system myself. The compass works well enough and it doesn't bother me to have to check the map now and then. So lack of a mini map doesn't bother me.

That being said: I don't really see the harm in giving people the option to toggle on a mini map if they prefer one. So sounds like a harmless and reasonable suggestion to me.

CeaseNY716

Xbox player.. would love this. I use the compass and the map and still constantly end up nowhere near the way i was trying to go lol

TheShadowScout

MentalxHammer wrote: »

We need a minimap...

No, we don't.

"Need" means "cannot do without" - and its actualyl quite easy to do without a minimap. A great many PC players never install any add-on to get them a minimap after all, and still play the game just fine...

I should know. I have been playing it -without- minimap since launch!

EdoKeledus wrote: »

As a PC player I have never used the mini map add on, I think this kind of tool breaks the immersion.

That is how I think about it as well.
I myself enjoy having to think a little, actually keeping a map in my head instead of having it before my eyes all the time, navigating my landmarks on occasion and so on. It makes the medieval setting feel neatly immersive...

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That being said, I can understand that some people are too lazy to want to bother with that as they beeline from quest to quest like the white rabbit in alices wonderland... and will keep whining for getting a minimap. Well, on PC they just have to install an add-on... on console, that is not exactly an option.
Still, there are a lot other add-ons that are also not an option on console, which some PC players take to let them play the game for them, to show them skyshards or whatever on their map and stuff... so a minimap is not exactly a game-breaking "hax!" level advantage over those who don't minimap (Well, not unless it showed out of line-of-sight enemies in cyrodil... IF it did that, then yeah, it would be very iffy)

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So, the final question would be... what's the gain for ZOS to let people have a minimap?
And there could totally be one - IF they sell the option to activate the minimap in the crown store.
And there you have it.
THAT is the best you could ever hope for - a crown store "conveniance" unlock that enables a minimap function. So, if you want that... tell ZOS how much you'd pay for it, if enough people would pay anout crowns for something like that... they will notice the smell of profit and look into selling it.

AcadianPaladin

I agree that a minimaap should be an optional (toggle) part of the game. I do use an addon minimap and was pleasantly surprised that instead stopping every few feet to fiddle with the game's menu map, I found the minimap really enhanced my immersion by letting me focus more on what is going on around me. I also find it helps compensate for the game's limited field of view.

Regardless, enough folks want a minimap that it really ought to be an option.

Nestor

I can't play without a minimap.

TheShadowScout

Nestor wrote: »

I can't play without a minimap.

I sincerely doubt the veracity of that statement.
I greatly suspect you are able to play the game even without minimap if you would put your mind to it, though it might take a little more effort then it would take with one...
...so the truth would sound more like "I don't want to play without a minimap"

Which I guess ought to be respected, the general mission statement for ESO -is- "Play how you Want" after all...
And I myself would totally be fine with a minimap, as long as it was optional and did not give people an unfair advantage over those not using it (like the cyrodil LoS thing I theorized in above post).

But I am also realistic enough to remember past discussions about skyshards and guilds... and thus arrive at the conclusion that if they were to do it, it most likely would come with an eye towards profit...

Nestor

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

I can't play without a minimap.

I sincerely doubt the veracity of that statement.
I greatly suspect you are able to play the game even without minimap if you would put your mind to it, though it might take a little more effort then it would take with one...
...so the truth would sound more like "I don't want to play without a minmap....

Lol, you have never done a group event with me!

The rule is, never follow me. Unless you want to get lost. I will ride off in the direction I am supposed to and 5 minutes later I am on the opposite side of the map from where I want to be. Yes, I have a compass, does not help.

So, yes, a minimap is required for me. I even put a minimap on the Fallout games.

Donari

The thing is when you open your map you spin 180 degrees. So your character pointer on the map is pointing the opposite direction from when you were going along without the map. In my first year or two of play, almost without fail, even with the compass, I raced off in the wrong direction because I looked at my facing on the map and plotted my next steps based on that. It was compounded if I got in a fight and got spun around during combat.

Then I got a low-impact minimap addon. All it does it take the piece of map where you are (so you have to have discovered it, it's the same map you have filling your screen, just cropped down to your immediate surroundings) and display it any time you're not in combat. And voila, I can find my way!

I admit I do not look at the world around me as much when using the minimap to navigate, and I regret that. I am working on changing that habit. But the sheer frustration of trying to find my way without one means that I'd rather lose some immersion; after all, it's also non-immersive for me to be lost where my character knows the area well.

I hope ZoS re-enables that function for console players. It's a real boon to navigation.

TheShadowScout

Nestor wrote: »

The rule is, never follow me. Unless you want to get lost.

Well, I guess I learned my gaming in a time where any maps we had... were the ones we drew ourselves. One had to keep at least the basics in mind, or get totally lost. And thanks to that gaming-training, I still find it easy to keep my bearings, both in games and RL.

And you know... before I started all that gaming, I also liked to get lost on occasion. Not so much later on. All a matter of training and practice, huh?

So, yeah, you could if you put your mind to it. Maybe with some detours, maybe with some difficulty, maybe it would take longer... but you could. Read the map to figure out the landmarks, check your compass, pay attention to the surroundings (which is also good to spot treasure chests, mages guild books, etc.) and follow the landmarks...
...or just go with the easy way and use a minimap, so you can focus more on the story of the game then finding your way.
Each as they like to play it I reckon!
I just get vexed when people misuse the term "need" for something that they could do without with a bit more effort. So... "want", yes, "like", sure, "prefer", certainly... but "need" is wrong.

Jaraal

EdoKeledus wrote: »

Remember when you had to find a "safe zone" then open your map to know where to go or visit all the map to find new locations.

Lol, when EverQuest first started, the only way to regain mana (magicka) was to sit on your butt and stare at the inside of a fullscreen spellbook. Your aggro radius increased when you sat down, so a mob that was initially out of range would come over and smack you, which would make you stand up and exit the spellbook.

It was the most annoying thing ever, and only lasted a few months before they changed it. People in ESO have it so easy.... but that said, as a PC player I still feel lost without my minimap add-on.

MentalxHammer

The main reason is in small scale PvP it is important to know the exact location of your group so you can stack/spread according to the situation. It is totally inadequate to spin the camera 360 degrees just to get an idea of where everyone in the group is, one quick glance at a mini map depicting the location of your teammates would be perfect for allowing more organized positioning.

Alienoutlaw

BigBragg wrote: »

I'm okay with this idea as long as it is a togglable option, as I personally like not having one clutter up my screen.

on PC we can toggle to turn off during combat, that should be easy enough to do on console, i agree its long over due QOL for console players

Alienoutlaw

MentalxHammer wrote: »

The main reason is in small scale PvP it is important to know the exact location of your group so you can stack/spread according to the situation. It is totally inadequate to spin the camera 360 degrees just to get an idea of where everyone in the group is, one quick glance at a mini map depicting the location of your teammates would be perfect for allowing more organized positioning.

great for following crown or looking to see who is running behind in the group

Knootewoot

I am on PC but never used the addon. I don't see the need for a mini-map. It's not that ESO has that big cities you can get lost in.

But he, if they put the minimap in the crownstore for 15.000 crowns i won't stop them. They could sell them as a compass with different themes.

Grianasteri

BigBragg wrote: »

I'm okay with this idea as long as it is a togglable option, as I personally like not having one clutter up my screen.

What this guy said ^^^

I would probably have the mini map off most of the time, but in delvs and pug dungeons I imagine it would be helpful to find my way around ones I am not familiar with.

FierceSam

+ a gazillion

An optional mini map seems like an obvious QoL requirement (both for console and PC/Mac cos leaving it to add on developers is a total cop out). I don’t use a console, but I do use a controller and I like the console interface. But some of the restrictions and limitations console users face are just ridiculous.

A big, open world mmrpg and no mini map.... are there any other similar games on console that do this?

Hope you get one soon console players