knock back on dragon Leap

kalunte

just remove it please.

give it a 5sec stun+offbalance idc but remove this clunky knockback. the skill is way strong enough to be granted a ***'d up feature.

NoodleESO

Thomas had never see such bull before >:(

l2p

Dojohoda

Some thoughts-
Block still works against leap, right?
Does having immoveable up work? I am thinking it does. Unsure
DK's are vulnerable while leaping.

jadarock

Its nerf everything Monday smh

I haven't played on my mag dk in a while but leap is still one of my favorite ultis to see on the battlefield. Honestly learn to block bro

Davadin

kalunte wrote: »

just remove it please.

give it a 5sec stun+offbalance idc but remove this clunky knockback. the skill is way strong enough to be granted a ***'d up feature.

no.

Xvorg

Precisely this is why so veteran players are sick of this game. A skill that has never, ever given a problem now is asked for a nerf... and not just any skill, an ultimate, which are supposed to be the most annoying skills anyone has access to.

Back in time, we had to learn to play the game before complaining, now is the opposite, just ask for nerfs in the forums on all powerful skills other classes have, so you can perform better.

Mediocrity will be the bane of ESO. Not CE, not lag, just a bunch of player asking for a higher ground and a lower sky, so they can climb up and makes themselves look like gods. But deep in their hearts they know... we know, they are just potatoes.

And potatoes should be under the ground, just where they belong.

Wheresthetea11

Or the combat team could... you know... fix the animation of knockback...

b95fister

I dislike pvp in this game because I bad at it. That said I’ll let the experts in pvp decode what is to strong or what isn’t

For the knockback in leap even thou i die to it quite a bit because of l2p it is the funniest knockback animation in the game. Kinda like your char was uppercuted but from their feet.

The knockback is only annoying when foolish tanks use it in pve dungeons

#keeptheleap

kalunte

they cant fix the knockback's animation. this is one of the reason they removed it from dizzy. too much dmg + unhealthy features.

if you guys dks are thinking that knockback removal would be a nerf, it is only because you feel how overtuned it is. call me low and tell me to know how to block. idc at all.

who in those who answered "meh again nerf call" use the knockback to drop ppl from cliffs? none, you dont cast an ult in order to drop someone from an elevated spot.

it does huge dmg in an undodgeable range (since last patch or the one before). combined with a cluncky mechanism makes it awfull. thats all.

again, give it more stun duration for the trade. it wont matter much.

Artorias24

Make it give empower for 2 seconds. Unlimited use.

Hahahahahahaha.

Pls ZOS, this was joke... Dont do it

ThePhantomThorn

The only issue I have is when it double stuns u with fossilise
But that’s just a bug
Why do noobs ask for nerfs when they barely know the game

Lokey0024

They really need to nerf this ability. I almost died to a DK yesterday and that's just not fair. They need to lower the damage by 1000 and add a 15000 dot over 3 seconds to encourage counterplay.

😁

JumpmanLane

Nerfs! MORE Nerfs! Geeze...IF you’re a DK, tbag EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING you kill today. Even mudcrabs.

jcm2606

Can Zenimax just ban anyone who unnecessarily calls for nerfs?

BattleAxe

Actually OP isn’t asking for a nerf they feel the knock back is clunky and asking for a stun or off balance. Please stop assuming everyone asking for a change to a skill is wanting it nerfed the OP suggestions to replace knockback would actually be a buff to leap.

NBrookus

Getting rid of the knockback on Leap in favor of an in-place stun would be a BUFF. It will no long knock people out of placed aoes and your talons range. It would lose some coolness, though.

Personally I don't have problems breaking Leap stun if the hamsters are well fed. It's certainly not as bad as Javelin. (Which my magplar would prefer as a knock down as well.). I feel like not all knockbacks have the same cc break issues, which should suggest it's fixable. Or at least can be made better.

Calboy

Ugh.

This game is going to turn into a homogenised piece of garbage where every class just runs the same generic stuns, burst, heals and buffs with different names

Vapirko

LOOOOOOOL. Today I mages wrath executed a DK mid leap and it nearly brought tears of laughter to my eyes.

GeorgeBlack

kalunte wrote: »

they cant fix the knockback's animation. this is one of the reason they removed it from dizzy. too much dmg + unhealthy features.

if you guys dks are thinking that knockback removal would be a nerf, it is only because you feel how overtuned it is. call me low and tell me to know how to block. idc at all.

who in those who answered "meh again nerf call" use the knockback to drop ppl from cliffs? none, you dont cast an ult in order to drop someone from an elevated spot.

it does huge dmg in an undodgeable range (since last patch or the one before). combined with a cluncky mechanism makes it awfull. thats all.

again, give it more stun duration for the trade. it wont matter much.

Ill say you are no fun.

Were were you all these years that leap was the only ultimate with a cast time?
Leap misses a ton of people simply because by the time you land from a distance, the target has outrun the effect.
Just get out of here. Go play tetris

MajBludd

Let me guess, you want something nerfed for your benefit. You are selfish. You need to stop asking for nerfs and learn to block

Nordic__Knights

jcm2606 wrote: »

Can Zenimax just ban anyone who unnecessarily calls for nerfs?

I asked that once and got told no it would be unfair to ban them I say we just straight strip the *** game from them for LIFE

Nordic__Knights

OP you need to just delete the game my 5 year old son knows to block an leap GOT me 5 YEARS OLD. So just delete yourself please and ty

ZeroXFF

They should remove it, because noobs keep using it in dungeons to knock away adds that I worked so hard to stack. They should also remove barely controllable stuns like those on pets, because all they do is make trash CC immune and impossible to pull in. The stuns should be moved to skills that allow for control, but stuns with an 8 second delay and random stuns from pets are unusable in PvE, and I can't imagine them being of much use in PvP.

This is not a nerf thread, this is a buff thread.

Nordic__Knights

ZeroXFF wrote: »

They should remove it, because noobs keep using it in dungeons to knock away adds that I worked so hard to stack. They should also remove barely controllable stuns like those on pets, because all they do is make trash CC immune and impossible to pull in. The stuns should be moved to skills that allow for control, but stuns with an 8 second delay and random stuns from pets are unusable in PvE, and I can't imagine them being of much use in PvP.

This is not a nerf thread, this is a buff thread.

This an L2P THREAD GET IT RIGHT because even you said NOOBS do it not good players and the pet issues thats other thing but to change the pets would hurt them vma 1 bar builds so dont see it going down anytime soon

Pain In The Axe

Imagine having problems pressing your right mouse button

BloodSkull_ESO

Imagine having problems with a class that is fun to play

BloodSkull_ESO

@ZOS_AntonioP please shut this thread down before it turns into a sht fest

Epicasballs

Flavor wise the knockback is essential. You leap into battle causing an impact that sends everyone flying off their feet. Plus they improved the knockback animation this update. You're asking for a fix already addressed in 5.2.0 notes.

Cerotonin

I don’t main or really play DragonKnight. My vampire NightBlade gets crushed by the leap (I like the Dark Stalker passive and regen). But that’s when I allow myself to be hit by one. It’s common to get immediately leaped on if you exit cloak lol.

Still think this is a bad idea though. Just break free if you’re stunned. Ridiculous how people really want to nerf this class even more.

Orchish

kalunte wrote: »

just remove it please.

give it a 5sec stun+offbalance idc but remove this clunky knockback. the skill is way strong enough to be granted a ***'d up feature.

People like you are the reason combat balance is in such a terrible state. Instead of learning to adapt and play against different skills you come crying to the forums demanding a nerf. Pathetic. Dragonleap is a ultimate and absolutely does not need touching and butchering like most other DK skills have been.

Jabbs_Giggity

NBrookus wrote: »

Getting rid of the knockback on Leap in favor of an in-place stun would be a BUFF. It will no long knock people out of placed aoes and your talons range. It would lose some coolness, though.

Personally I don't have problems breaking Leap stun if the hamsters are well fed. It's certainly not as bad as Javelin. (Which my magplar would prefer as a knock down as well.). I feel like not all knockbacks have the same cc break issues, which should suggest it's fixable. Or at least can be made better.

The purpose of a knock back on leap has many uses, especially designed to leap into a group from distance and break their "ball" composition. I agree that the clunkiness of all knock backs, ups, downs are buggy, but knock back on leap has a purpose to serve and should stay.

I agree with others, it's a L2P issue - mostly. Bugs need to be addressed with CC Immunity and double dipping into CC/Knock back ,etc.