ThePhantomThorn wrote: »So a lot of skills have BIS morphs, but the other morphs can be very... disappointing in comparison.
Few examples:
-Venom arrow (other morph of pi)
-Berserk rage (other morph of onslaught )
-Wrecking blow (other morph of d swing)
This is just a small number of these useless skills/morphs. It would add more variety into the game if they had more unique effects
Some possible changes:
Berserk strike - put the refund on this morph so it can be used as pre scale onslaught
Venom arrow - increase dot tick depending on hp like a reverse execute
Wrecking blow - does more dmg than dizzy swing so better for a spammable
Same with sets.
For pve everyone knows about relequen and lokkestiz but what about other sets?
There are a lot of sets that are virtually pointless and have no use in any way.
Zos should change this so many sets and skills are just as good as each other. So no more 1 best setup for stam/mag dps that fits all. More variety plz
So ur saying that venom arrow is as useful as pi?LiquidPony wrote: »
Wrecking Blow isn't useless at all. What? It's one of the strongest PvE spammables in the game. Its advantage over Dizzying Swing is that it grants Empower.
And Venom Arrow isn't useless either. It's kind of a niche skill but it's analogous to the difference between Force Pulse and Crushing Shock. Venom Arrow is the standard ranged stamina interrupt, useful for vAS with all-stam comps, vCR portal tank running bow backbar, etc.
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »So ur saying that venom arrow is as useful as pi?
Kinda talking about BIS with skills
Wrecking blow was a bad example tho. Was thinking as if pvp there
Also I thought people just went for full mag groups in vAS?
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »So a lot of skills have BIS morphs, but the other morphs can be very... disappointing in comparison.
Few examples:
-Venom arrow (other morph of pi)
-Berserk rage (other morph of onslaught )
-Wrecking blow (other morph of d swing)
This is just a small number of these useless skills/morphs. It would add more variety into the game if they had more unique effects
Some possible changes:
Berserk strike - put the refund on this morph so it can be used as pre scale onslaught
Venom arrow - increase dot tick depending on hp like a reverse execute
Wrecking blow - does more dmg than dizzy swing so better for a spammable
Same with sets.
For pve everyone knows about relequen and lokkestiz but what about other sets?
There are a lot of sets that are virtually pointless and have no use in any way.
Zos should change this so many sets and skills are just as good as each other. So no more 1 best setup for stam/mag dps that fits all. More variety plz
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »So ur saying that venom arrow is as useful as pi?
Kinda talking about BIS with skills
Wrecking blow was a bad example tho. Was thinking as if pvp there
Also I thought people just went for full mag groups in vAS?
I mean that both morphs are equally useful
u can't have 2 morph both BIS. i'd rather have zero BIS skills, but both morphs are situational.
Uppercut is a good example. Both morph are good. 1 is "BIS" to execute in PvP another is (almost) "BIS" in 2H PvE.
But careful what u wish for.
U can have a skill where both morph becomes useless.....
#StoneFistSucks
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »I mean that both morphs are equally useful
Like when was the last time u saw a player use berserk rage
Exactly what I mean. A lot of skills are useless for pve but good for pvp but some are just underwhelming.OG_Kaveman wrote: »
I play exclusively pve, I never see anyone use either morph. Same with rend, sometimes ballista, what do you say about that?
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Exactly what I mean. A lot of skills are useless for pve but good for pvp but some are just underwhelming.
Like rend and morphs.
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Exactly what I mean. A lot of skills are useless for pve but good for pvp but some are just underwhelming.
Like rend and morphs.
u can't have 2 morph both BIS. i'd rather have zero BIS skills, but both morphs are situational.
#StoneFistSucks
Finally some1 who gets itLuckylancer wrote: »
There are some skills that have equal morps. Twin slashes and lightnin escape morps are boht good and player decide which one to use. Venom arrow is extremely niche on pve and useless in pvp. Reverse execute seems like good idea.
Wrecking blow vs D swing is "balance PvE and PvP diffrent" thing. Ypu use same skill, it stuns in PvP and deals more damage on PvE.
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »So ur saying that venom arrow is as useful as pi?
Kinda talking about BIS with skills
Wrecking blow was a bad example tho. Was thinking as if pvp there
Also I thought people just went for full mag groups in vAS?
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Finally some1 who gets it
I’m saying that a lot of morphs are completely useless outside of certain conditions.You came here and claim that some morphs of skills are bad in PvP, but it doesn't mean they are bad in general because some of them are quite good in PvE. Not every skill/morph should be good in PvP or PvE, some of them are made for just one strict type of gameplay. Like detection skills or siege skills in eyes of PvEr can look pretty bad.
Olupajmibanan wrote: »
We should focus on morphs that have no use in PvE neither in PvP.
Compare berserk rage to onslaught. Enough saidIf you think WB and Berserker in PvP is usuless you're wrong.
ExactlyDivineFirstYOLO wrote: »
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »I’m saying that a lot of morphs are completely useless outside of certain conditions.
Also people seem to have forgotten about the part with endgame build variety in dps
I mean that if a skill is good for 1 thing, that doesn’t make it balanced.
whip is useless when facing ane enemy 41 mts again. That's a special condition. Is the skill bad for that?
WB is useless in PvP since the light attack dmg is too slow sues to Battle Spirit. Does it mean it is bad in PvE?
All skill must be used under certain conditions. No one will ever use BoL when full health.
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »So ur saying that venom arrow is as useful as pi?
Kinda talking about BIS with skills
Wrecking blow was a bad example tho. Was thinking as if pvp there
Also I thought people just went for full mag groups in vAS?
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Compare berserk rage to onslaught. Enough said Exactly
I think zos should prioritise balance and variety over new dlc
Still a refund was 1 of the reasons that onslaught was good at all. I really miss it. I used to use it as an execute so it would refund. Finish a kill from 40-30% hp. But the refund is what made it goodEpicasballs wrote: »
Onslaught is better on paper but Beserker is better in practice. Outnumbered Berserker lets you stay on offensive when you need to. Extra mitigation and CC immunity is far more valuable than a bit more damage. Countless times I've used an ult only to be CC'd right after and miss an opportunity to even the odds... Beserker Strike changed that for me.
ThePhantomThorn wrote: »Still a refund was 1 of the reasons that onslaught was good at all. I really miss it. I used to use it as an execute so it would refund. Finish a kill from 40-30% hp. But the refund is what made it good