Dyzzzing Swing

Centurionax

Davadin

off balance

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

Xvorg

Stun

Davadin wrote: »

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

I think it would be much better if stonefist gives off balance instead of the stacking thing

Davadin

off balance

Xvorg wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

I think it would be much better if stonefist gives off balance instead of the stacking thing

abso-***-lutely.

Centurionax

Stun

Davadin wrote: »

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

the off balance can still be doged

Davadin

off balance

Centurionax wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

the off balance can still be doged

yes off-balance can be dodged.

so is stunned.

but if it's not dodged, off-balance will always apply off-balance. there is no '"off-balance immunity".

stun, on the other hand............

hakan

Davadin wrote: »

Centurionax wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

the off balance can still be doged

yes off-balance can be dodged.

so is stunned.

but if it's not dodged, off-balance will always apply off-balance. there is no '"off-balance immunity".

stun, on the other hand............

so if they have cc immunity on them, they will still get offbalanced?

another reason to farm truth set then.

ZarkingFrued

Stun

Xvorg wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

I think it would be much better if stonefist gives off balance instead of the stacking thing

Makes so much sense that ZOS won't even consider it

Xvorg

Stun

hakan wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Centurionax wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

the off balance can still be doged

yes off-balance can be dodged.

so is stunned.

but if it's not dodged, off-balance will always apply off-balance. there is no '"off-balance immunity".

stun, on the other hand............

so if they have cc immunity on them, they will still get offbalanced?

another reason to farm truth set then.

Some patches ago I started using livewire and a shock staff on my mDK. Livewire proc + blockade granted off balance, so I could lash and stun the guy. If livewire proc again before CC immunity ended, I could get a new chance to off balance (with the animation) but no stun was made. Saddly, it lasted one or two patches (until lash mechanic was changed)

ZarkingFrued

Stun

hakan wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Centurionax wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

the off balance can still be doged

yes off-balance can be dodged.

so is stunned.

but if it's not dodged, off-balance will always apply off-balance. there is no '"off-balance immunity".

stun, on the other hand............

so if they have cc immunity on them, they will still get offbalanced?

another reason to farm truth set then.

I wouldn't base my damage off of trying to get dizzy to connect lmfao. Truth is Sick-Rick on Templar tho with the offbalance/gap closer/ spammable/Major Crit proc/ minor protection proc/ STUN known as toppling charge. (What a mouthful...) I mean why not make it proc an insane amount of damage as well?

Davadin

off balance

hakan wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

Centurionax wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

as a DK, i'm all for off-balance.

too many times people blocked or dodged or have stun immunity anyway.

off-balance gives me boosted damage AND the possibility of stun if i do heavy attack.

the off balance can still be doged

yes off-balance can be dodged.

so is stunned.

but if it's not dodged, off-balance will always apply off-balance. there is no '"off-balance immunity".

stun, on the other hand............

so if they have cc immunity on them, they will still get offbalanced?

another reason to farm truth set then.

yes, but u can't stun them obviously.

but yes, 10% of damage if u got ur blue CP tree 120 points. and one of the weapon also give bonus for offbalanced opponents. i think its DW, if not its 2H.

LuxLunae

off balance

At some point you are going to get over it...

Dizzying swing does stun, you just have to heavy attack after of balancing them.

If Dizzy should ever have its stun back

1. Knockback will be removed and the person is stunned on the spot
2. Damage is halved (at most 75% of what it currently is)
3. Cast time is reduced o 0.5 seconds.
4. Off balance is removed.

Crixus8000

I don't care. I just want it to have high damage like it should have. Not the nerfed damage on pts.

DarkGottbeard

off balance

If it goes back to the golf swing CC we will miss out on a large buff to the skill and power of 2hander game play.

Chilly-McFreeze

Stun

If I had to guess people will just swap over to Turn Evil for their stun, making many wish the dizzy knockback (if they actually fix the break free issue) back because they at least could do something against it. But whatever floats your boat.

LuxLunae wrote: »

At some point you are going to get over it...

Dizzying swing does stun, you just have to heavy attack after of balancing them.

If Dizzy should ever have its stun back

1. Knockback will be removed and the person is stunned on the spot
2. Damage is halved (at most 75% of what it currently is)
3. Cast time is reduced o 0.5 seconds.
4. Off balance is removed.

Is that your personal wishlist or some kind of prediction?

DarkGottbeard wrote: »

If it goes back to the golf swing CC we will miss out on a large buff to the skill and power of 2hander game play.

You mean through Exploiter passive? You can already make use of that via Tactician, a passive you surely have if you run a dedicated DS build.

DarkGottbeard

off balance

No, i don't mean through exploiter passive exclusively. These changes have positive no CP ramifications. But even if that were the angle, it is a large power increase to be able to shift some 40 points of cp over to more useful stars and gain complete control over your off balance proc.

Off balance on hit is a buff, its stronger, it has more versatility, it promotes better gameplay. Win win win. Time to learn to count to 7.

Chilly-McFreeze

Stun

I wouldn't call the change from a good burst skill with a stun to a mediocre burst skill with off balance more versatility on a grand scale but each to their own. I doubt they will bring the knockback back anyway, just as I doubt they will rethink the dmg nerf when they readjust DoTs, even tho that was the scapegoat.

Kadoin

off balance

No other non-ult skill in the game does that damage and stuns and cannot be interrupted, reliably dodged, or blocked.

Also, off-balance more useful for me, esp. on my hybrids

DarkGottbeard

off balance

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

I wouldn't call the change from a good burst skill with a stun to a mediocre burst skill with off balance more versatility on a grand scale but each to their own. I doubt they will bring the knockback back anyway, just as I doubt they will rethink the dmg nerf when they readjust DoTs, even tho that was the scapegoat.

I hit harder on pts with mine, try not running tactician and building into the new reality.

Canned_Apples

off balance

If they give D-Swing its stun back then they should make Dive undodgeable, as well as have the animation should be sped up, and Shalks should stun and not be blockable.
#signed if that.

Witar

off balance

It could have it stun back with damage reduced to be on par (or lesser) with the rest of spammable. I'm ok with that.

Chilly-McFreeze

Stun

Witar wrote: »

It could have it stun back with damage reduced to be on par (or lesser) with the rest of spammable. I'm ok with that.

Begs the question what Dizzy should be in the first line. High dmg spam for burst or low damage utility skill with a cast time?

Davadin

off balance

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Witar wrote: »

It could have it stun back with damage reduced to be on par (or lesser) with the rest of spammable. I'm ok with that.

Begs the question what Dizzy should be in the first line. High dmg spam for burst or low damage utility skill with a cast time?

i only wish ZOS can make up their mind on that....

eso_lags

Stun

I feel like this is going to give people more damage but id rather have the stun. Simply because I think its going to be annoying, as a solo player, fighting outnumbered and trying to pin someone down with the off balance. At least in this laggy excuse for pvp.

But it will be good when it works. Off balance into a stun into a beserker stike. Def more damage. But stuns are going to be annoying this update. Everyone is going to be running that annoying circle of protection fear on top of dswing off balance stun.

GreenSoup2HoT

off balance

Off-balance makes for actual thought.

Stun is stylish.

Im conflicted.

GeorgeBlack

Stun

Stun. I dont even use the ability

MCBIZZLE300

Stun

why change it, give the stun to dizzy and the off balance or wrecking blow.