A question to stamdks on PTS

Eniredir

How's the class feeling on the PTS guys? As fun and seemingly as viable as on the live server or...? Kinda feel like rolling one but not sure because of the changes

Cadbury

As a console player, I too am curious about this. I currently main a MagDK, but switching to stam...shouldn't be too hard *glances at Deadly Strike set sitting in bank*.

Eniredir

Yeah, asking because I am a console player myself, and I am undecided yet between stamdk or stamden haha

Canned_Apples

For pvp, go stamden... their core abilities didn't get nerfed this time around...not yet anyways. Dive, however, is still a terrible ability.
Stamdks are...well.... yeah... their dots are worthless now.

Eniredir

Oh man... I was kinda hoping that wouldn't be the case

juhislihis19

Their both (and only 2!) stamina morphs have been nerfed. Venomous Claws is waste of bar space, but Breath might have some purpose.

No need to even mention the new "spammable", which does less damage than Breath and cost more.

Narvuntien

Atm we feel the DoTs for both Mag and Stam Dks were overnerfed and we are trying to get them to wind back those nerfs.

Nordic__Knights

Dks in an whole in a bad way if this gos live as is

LuxLunae

Eniredir wrote: »

How's the class feeling on the PTS guys? As fun and seemingly as viable as on the live server or...? Kinda feel like rolling one but not sure because of the changes

Well as a stamplar, for my build since I was using dots, I am leaning heavily on


crit heals and crit damage.

I don't use jabs for damage anymore.

I can't use power of the light for my build.

So what I am trying to clean up my rotation.

1. Throw fake jabs (not doing it for damage) so that I can put
2. down rearming trap (This don't work for ranged btw) for the extra crit damage. Then
3. Use dizzying swing and jabs once they step on the trap. Then
4. Onslaught them, then start a heavy attack and
5. barswap to spin execute with dual wield....

This does not work on mag classes at all..they usually heal before while in execute range...
I use crit to heal.

So what would you do on stam DK? pretty much the same thing.. toss all your DOTs on them instead of the fake jabs....

Rinse Repeat...hopefully it gets you somewhere...

Sanguinor2

Stamdk might be in Trouble damagewise. The dot from the vma 2hander hits harder than your class dots do. Same with Viper (and probably sloads too) I believe. Basically your whole Damage will be proc sets, Dizzy (that no longer ccs) and onslaught I guess?

SpiderCultist

lol poisons hit equally as hard as his class abilities, that's the state of the stamDK

utterly garbarge

ecru

pretty terrible. class abilities now do garbage damage, and i'm pretty sure the new spammable is worse than flurry. deadly strike may have been skewing the tooltip too much in flurry's direction, either way it ain't good.

Eniredir

I hope they revert some of these changes, geez I'm trying stam dk now and it feels stale compared to what it was before...

Epicasballs

My 3 main toons are stamdk, magblade and stamsorc and I almost exclusively PVP. Honestly I was thinking of race changing them all to dark elf and equiping them with Grundwulf, New Moon Acolyte and Pelinals Aptitude in medium. That new tristat food is juicy. Warrior Mundus. Tri glyphs on everything. Triune Jewels. 5 1 1. Just pick and choose my favorite morphs from both sides of the aisle.

Imagine a sorc with Bound Armaments, Curse, Frags... just have it all.

A DK with whip and 2h execute. Chain pull gap close, breath, claw, dunk, whip at 100% more damage hit em with an execute. Pick your preferred morphs in this combo. You could run frost staff back bar for ele drain and noxious for both armor pen buffs. Put more into stam as far attributes to gain more resources for stam from Grundwulf and ele giving you mag back. This is gonna be one wild patch lol. I play in no CP so a build like this would thrive more there. It'd be hard to allocate CP in an effective way for hybrids but it could be done. Coagulating Blood and Vigor lol.

Who gives a *** about nb anymore...

Dottzgaming

DK dots got severely overnerfed. So the class - on both the mag and stam side - doesnt feel good. From my initial testing, stamDK felt worse than magDK.

Eniredir

Dottzgaming wrote: »

DK dots got severely overnerfed. So the class - on both the mag and stam side - doesnt feel good. From my initial testing, stamDK felt worse than magDK.

Thanks for your reply Dottz, your last video on Stamdk pvp was actually the thing that made me want to dabble into the class. Too bad they're nerfing it that bad. I guess we'll have to wait for the remaining weeks of pts to see what happens

Cadbury

It seems like they want us to go for more of a hybrid setup as opposed to stam/mag. Can't say I'm too happy about it. But it is what it is

Dottzgaming

Eniredir wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

DK dots got severely overnerfed. So the class - on both the mag and stam side - doesnt feel good. From my initial testing, stamDK felt worse than magDK.

Thanks for your reply Dottz, your last video on Stamdk pvp was actually the thing that made me want to dabble into the class. Too bad they're nerfing it that bad. I guess we'll have to wait for the remaining weeks of pts to see what happens

No problem!

It's such a shame, i really loved DK in scalebreaker - both mag and stam. DOTs were obviously too strong this patch, but to nerf them so badly that on magicka, volatile armor literally is my strongest DoT, and on StamDK the dots are so weak that even in an offensive build my sustained pressure is nearly non existent is just disheartening.

MagDK i think will be ok to build as it did since the secondary effects on Engulfing/Embers are really good, but on stam, im a bit lost on what to do. I have some super meme build planned that i made on the UESP calc that i wanna try that gets rid of DoTs entirely, but i obviously need to test it first because it's just a theory at this point.

imo they really blasted the DK class with this patch. Hopefully we see some buffs over the course of the pts.

Casterial

Magnb, magSorc, Magden, Stamden, Magplar are the only classes I see working properly now.


The rest are so bad