Detailed Analysis: Relentless Focus vs Bound Armaments

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Vlad9425 wrote: »

Crixus8000 wrote: »

Vlad9425 wrote: »

Devs copying and pasting abilities from other classes and making them out to be achieving "identity" lol what a joke. Meanwhile Relentless focus continues to be an empty cast with a heal no one asked for and a bow proc which is easily dodgeable. What I'm seeing here is that Bound Armaments is by far the more superior skill than the one they copied from NB.

I would trade this for relentless focus any day. Relentless might be easily dodgeable but at least it hit's hard.

The extra stam and the buff to light attacks on top of the new effect and the fact that you get extra weapon damage for slotting it puts Bound Armaments ahead of the Bow proc. If you're talking PVP the 10% mitigation from relentless does come in handy but if you're playing in Medium Armor it still makes NB very squishy.

It's only 10 percent after 6 skill casts + 5 light attack weaves and the minute you use it it becomes zero. And 10% mitigation isn't 10% incoming damage reduction, its far less. So in any kind of fight you need to activate it, instead of actually using a skill that does damage, then start mashing buttons like crazy before it amounts to anything.

Maybe its useful for PVP, but it doesn't feel like the final skill an assassin would earn. I care less about how much specific damage each of these do and more about how it makes the class feel. As in assassinate skill I would feel better about having two offensive buffs way before I would like to "earn" a defensive buff by light attacking. It just feels silly to me. So I would say let's trade them but then again I don't wish relentless on my stamsorc either. Relentless just feels bad all around as an identity skill.

leepalmer95

Calboy wrote: »

I can't believe there are nightblades complaining of losing 'identity' other this skill. If people cant complain about something being overpowered it seems like this is the next best thing. Crystal blast and dizzy swing both provide burst and have a cast time, molten whip and confined weapon both offer a spammable dd. This doesn't mean identity is lost. Also f stamblade forever.

The only thing nbs have left is cloak which is stupidly easy to counter and is useless, and relentless focus.


But anyway OP, you need to take into account the class passives for the skill tree as well.

Bound arnmanents gives 20% stamina and 20% hp regen if slotted, kind of a big deal passively.

Relentless gives like 2.5% crit or something and some stam/ mag back if someone dies if hit within 2s of being hit with it, though other passives proc this.

Bound seems better, lasts longer so requires less stamina to keep up, 4 procs instead of 5 makes it easier and faster to build up and use.

Bound seems like a really solid skill, it has more utility than assassins will.

Iskiab

I don’t know if it’s better, people on the forums always over value damage, then cry they can’t stay alive on the forums because they come from pve and think stats and damage solves all problems.

I’d trade bound armaments and streak for merciless and shade plus cloak any day though. A lot of NBs don’t even slot merciless these days.