What’s a Stam Sorc?

Lyar09
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Congrats Zos. You win. You completely deleted the class. So much for identity right? You have a double bar pet that is utterly useless. You took away the CC from the only reliable spammable left in a weapon skill line. Oh but hey, let’s buff magsorc and magplar. They needed much more love and attention.

****I understand NOW that they missed it in the patch notes****
Edited by Lyar09 on September 16, 2019 9:04PM
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  • Alidel
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    At least they didn't nerf hurricane to the ground (or are they just forgot to include this nerf into notes?)
  • Mickey
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    🤡🤡🤡🤡
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    I cant watch the stream. Did they mentioned anything about stam sorcs there? Like why they think it’s necessary to produce a complete letdown for stamsorcs patch after patch
  • amir412
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    This game turned into a complete joke over the years... Yet, i keep getting amazed patch after patch.
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  • Alidel
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    I cant watch the stream. Did they mentioned anything about stam sorcs there? Like why they think it’s necessary to produce a complete letdown for stamsorcs patch after patch

    not yet
  • HowlKimchi
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    new stam sorc class identity: depressed and suicidal.
    previously @HaruKamui but I outgrew my weeb phase (probably)

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  • Canned_Apples
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    Well, Dizzy is oped and very easy to pull off a KO combo.
    That said, they didn't add much identity.
    Oh- they changed Bound Armaments.
    It now also works similar to Grim Focus- but you can fire it off after 1-4 light attack. Burst.
  • jaws343
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    They mentioned that they missed a bound armaments change in the patch notes that is catered to stam sorcs.
  • Alidel
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    guys! Stamsorc gets new functionality for bound armaments - it will summon some spectral weapon and ***, will float around and hit stuff. They forgot to include it in path notes!
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    This better not be a joke.
  • Alidel
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    This better not be a joke.

    It is not - I actually got too excited from news on stream that I made number of typos above :p
  • Schattenfluegel
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    It isnt, i came from pts, the new arnamentsskill is active.
    Love my Stamsorc
  • Saril_Durzam
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    Buff magsorc? Are you serious? :(

    I know that stamsorc "identity" is a bad joke. Still no need to attack to a brother class who is getting nerf after nerf.

    Too bad i was waiting for some stamsor love, at least on group utility. Meh.
  • Alidel
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    It isnt, i came from pts, the new arnamentsskill is active.

    How does it perform?
  • RiskyChalice863
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    This patch actually seems pretty decent for my Stam Sorc tbh.

    Snare immunity on Ball of Lightning is really nice, as is the more reliable stun.

    Stam Sorcs should be in a good spot compared to other Stam classes, I think. Their class kit now gives them access to: (1) Major Brutality; (2) snare removal; (3) a stun; (4) strong passive heals; (5) two burst heals (now including a potential instant burst from the Clannfear); (6) a delayed burst ability apparently through Bound Armaments; (7) a stamina-cost resistance buff that pulls nightblades out of stealth and makes you speedy; (8) a good escape ability; and (9) a pet that will tank in solo PvE and also actually do competitive damage with other pets and dots since those were all nerfed.

    I actually think Stam Sorcs will be in good shape.
  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    Where's the magsorc buff? lol some blind hatred there
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  • Alidel
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    I actually think Stam Sorcs will be in good shape.

    Stamsorcs were never in a bade shape, but some new class skills are welcomed addition to the builds!
  • ChunkyCat
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    Dizzy CC gone
    Drain shot CC gone

    They even nerfed Dual Wield’s Flurry, because it was so OP to begin with.

    Poor StamSorc can’t catch a break.

    KeK
  • Lyar09
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    SOOOO regarding the magsorc buffs:

    Surge: This ability and its morphs now grant Major Brutality and Sorcery at base.
    *Magsorc can now use crit surge

    Ball of Lightning (morph): This morph now ranks up in duration of the summoned ball of lightning, which now lasts 3 seconds at Rank IV, up from 2. This morph also adds 2 seconds of snare and immobilization immunity after teleporting.
    *Magsorc now has even better mobility

    Summon Winged Twilight: Increased the heal of this ability and the Twilight Matriarch morph to be closer to the heal power of Rushed Ceremony. This will result in approximately 87% increase for the base, and approximately 55% increase for the Matriarch. Note that these abilities will continue to scale exclusively with Max Magicka.
    *Pet Sorc meta continues....
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  • Saril_Durzam
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    Hearing you...

    Matriarch heal buff: unless planning to play healer (class not good at all as healer), is an unwanted heal.

    Streak buff: to me is a nerf. The area is smaller and will have issues to stun melee players close to you. 2 meters more means not much.

    Surge buff: its a revert state, that´s all.

    Mag sorcs: scalp DOUBLE nerf (17% less dmg is a nerf but almost 2k more magicka use is a BIG nerf), LL nerf (again, 2k more magicka), Wall of Elements nerf. Missing sustain buff from Degeneration (not counting damage) and cost of useful skills increased, that for a class with sustain issues.

    AOE damage was supposed to be back to before Scalebreaker but costing way more. I can see the big increase in cost but not in damage...

    So basically Sorc healers get buffed. Even with that, they´re MILES away from Templars and Wardens. The Streak we will see, but to me is a nerf and again, it´s just useful in PvP. PvE wise nerfs all around.
    Edited by Saril_Durzam on September 16, 2019 9:40PM
  • Schattenfluegel
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    Alidel wrote: »
    It isnt, i came from pts, the new arnamentsskill is active.

    How does it perform?

    Not tested yet, sorry, i'll do it in the next days..
    Love my Stamsorc
  • Saril_Durzam
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    Lyar09 wrote: »
    SOOOO regarding the magsorc buffs:

    Surge: This ability and its morphs now grant Major Brutality and Sorcery at base.
    *Magsorc can now use crit surge

    Ball of Lightning (morph): This morph now ranks up in duration of the summoned ball of lightning, which now lasts 3 seconds at Rank IV, up from 2. This morph also adds 2 seconds of snare and immobilization immunity after teleporting.
    *Magsorc now has even better mobility

    Summon Winged Twilight: Increased the heal of this ability and the Twilight Matriarch morph to be closer to the heal power of Rushed Ceremony. This will result in approximately 87% increase for the base, and approximately 55% increase for the Matriarch. Note that these abilities will continue to scale exclusively with Max Magicka.
    *Pet Sorc meta continues....

    As you were commenting, my opinions on that.

    - Magsorcs retain what they had before Scalebreaker, plain and simple. There is a small healing amount buff, that´s all.That, if you expect to play with Surge; many people dont as they can get Major Sorcery from pots. That small extra healing won´t change things. Will keep using for solo content, for sure.
    - Ball of Lightning improved but Streak will be still played, as it´s more defensive and can stun melee enemies; Ball of Lightning can´t as now stuns enemies at the end of the trip, not at the beginning.
    - Seriously, noone but Sorc healers (who are far from meta) are/will use Matriarch while it deals so few damage. Even with this buff - mostly now will heal around 3-4k more health. Scalebreaker best parses and best DPS come from vollatible pet only, and it gets TWO nerfs, one of them specially hard.

    Really, it hurts me saying this but i´d rather prefer to stay in Scalebreaker. Will do better DPS than after this patch.

    Btw, i play both a magsorc and a stamsorc and i agree it needs many things, not a pet precisely. Identity, group usefulness, etc...
    Edited by Saril_Durzam on September 16, 2019 9:50PM
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