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Huyen
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I decided tonight to give ESO another ***, make an alt and so forth. After the mindnumbing download of nearly 90gb through steam, the launcher decided to download another whopping 50gb, and such eat up all my physical ram and pagefile, so I cant do ***** on my computer without it crashing. Not even in the game yet and already fed up with the poor state of the game and its software.

Sorry for the rant, but its even worse then the beta in 2014. Hell, even getting oneshotted with a fireball in Skyrim as a melee character is more fun then this junk they call an mmorpg.

Edit: profanity filter doesnt allow me to say sho.t somehow, this experience just got worse...
Edited by Huyen on September 13, 2019 2:17PM
Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

"Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh
  • magictucktuck
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    That doesn't sound like eso's problem. My computer doesn't have issues.
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  • Huyen
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    Well, its only an issue with the damn eso launcher. Even FO76 runs smooth as butter...
    Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

    "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    Definitely sounds like a problem with your computer and or steam.
  • Huyen
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    Definitely sounds like a problem with your computer and or steam.

    My computer is fine, and the launcher actually runs seperate from steam, as its their own (ZoS) launcher that I need to use anyhow. Oh, and its only ESO that is giving instant trouble.
    Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

    "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh
  • SirAndy
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    You need at least twice the size of the patch as free space on your hard drive because of the (idiotically stupid) way the launcher handles updates.
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    And that's regardless of what steam does or doesn't do before you launch the launcher ...
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  • StormeReigns
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    The only time i ever experienced this was when FFXI launched state side, and a few people had to run repair before eventually entering the game due to one random corrupted file on our PC.
  • nafensoriel
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    You need at least twice the size of the patch as free space on your hard drive because of the (idiotically stupid) way the launcher handles updates.
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    And that's regardless of what steam does or doesn't do before you launch the launcher ...
    dry.gif

    You mean windows. The launcher doesn't care. Windows cares. Windows needs an absurd amount of free space on drives to operate especially if its your primary drive. When you fill 75% of a primary drive windows begins to wig out.
  • LuxLunae
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    have you tried an SSD?
  • Huyen
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    LuxLunae wrote: »
    have you tried an SSD?

    Its installed on an SSD. So far I had to reinstall twice, and after the second time I needed tonrepair as well, aka downloading another 56gb of files somehow. Its working, but dont ask me how or why....all I know is that ZoS need to up their game asap.
    Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

    "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh
  • Nemesis7884
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    one thing i learned in lofe os that it can ALWAYS get worse
  • Morgul667
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    I downloaded another game yesterday and was truely amazed how quick and nicely it runs with the same computer and connexion

    That felt good and i caught myself smiling as it was a true surprise. I had forgotten what stability and performance meant

  • Huyen
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    I downloaded another game yesterday and was truely amazed how quick and nicely it runs with the same computer and connexion

    That felt good and i caught myself smiling as it was a true surprise. I had forgotten what stability and performance meant

    My point exactly.
    Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

    "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh
  • Slimebrow
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    LOL
  • rpa
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    Do not use Steam for any game which can be played without.

    Anyway they are going to do a patching overhaul at Q1 2020 and when it happens everyone will need to reload game client.
  • nejcn001
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    I can launch normaly on a 6GB RAM, i7-4510U laptop with SSD.
  • Inaya
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    That doesn't sound like eso's problem. My computer doesn't have issues.

    No problem with my PC either. Doesn't sound like an ESO issue to me either.
  • Morgul667
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    Inaya wrote: »
    That doesn't sound like eso's problem. My computer doesn't have issues.

    No problem with my PC either. Doesn't sound like an ESO issue to me either.

    Love it when people come and say “did you check your connexion?” “Did you check your computer””must be on your side”

    Launcher is bugged like hell

    Anyone who played a little bit of eso knows that
  • EmEm_Oh
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    Run ESO on a dedicated ssd. I do and it solved a lot of problems.
  • Huyen
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    rpa wrote: »
    Do not use Steam for any game which can be played without.

    Anyway they are going to do a patching overhaul at Q1 2020 and when it happens everyone will need to reload game client.

    Hold up...I have to go through this crap again???
    Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
    Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

    "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh
  • Inaya
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    Morgul667 wrote: »
    Inaya wrote: »
    That doesn't sound like eso's problem. My computer doesn't have issues.

    No problem with my PC either. Doesn't sound like an ESO issue to me either.

    Love it when people come and say “did you check your connexion?” “Did you check your computer””must be on your side”

    Launcher is bugged like hell

    Anyone who played a little bit of eso knows that

    LOL I play every day for hours at a time and have very FEW issues. An occasional DC, lag spikes when I load into a crowded area but mostly my machine runs between 80-100 FPS with 90-100ms
  • Kuramas9tails
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    For once my console pheasant status is better than a PC's?

    ZOS what have you done?!
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    • Kadoin
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      Someone still uses a page file in 2019? Wow.
    • Reverb
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      several thousand of us update, launch and play the game daily without running into the issues you are seeing. This absolutely sounds like a localized problem. If it were an ESO issue it would be happening to everyone, or at least many people. It’s not.

      Lag, disconnects when lots of combat messages are being sent, guild history instability, broken quest phases, broken skills, broken break-free, inability to properly calculate cc immunity, crap communication and customer service, these are all ESO problems. These are things that impact the majority of the player base.

      The fact that you can’t launch the game is a you problem. And it sounds like you’re using both the Steam launcher and the ESO launcher is compounding the problem.
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    • Huyen
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      Kadoin wrote: »
      Someone still uses a page file in 2019? Wow.

      Yes, windows creates one automaticly when needed.
      Reverb wrote: »
      several thousand of us update, launch and play the game daily without running into the issues you are seeing. This absolutely sounds like a localized problem. If it were an ESO issue it would be happening to everyone, or at least many people. It’s not.

      Lag, disconnects when lots of combat messages are being sent, guild history instability, broken quest phases, broken skills, broken break-free, inability to properly calculate cc immunity, crap communication and customer service, these are all ESO problems. These are things that impact the majority of the player base.

      The fact that you can’t launch the game is a you problem. And it sounds like you’re using both the Steam launcher and the ESO launcher is compounding the problem.

      Right, so the fact that the launcher refuses to download everything in one go from the server is a problem on my computer? Glad I decided to quit anyhow, instead of keep messing with broken stuff. And to add to that: I wont miss this rotten community one bit.
      Huyen Shadowpaw, dedicated nightblade tank - PS4 (Retired)
      Huyen Swiftpaw, nightblade dps - PC EU (Retired)
      Huyen Lightpaw, templar healer - PC EU (Retired)
      Huyen Swiftpaw, necromancer dps - PC EU (Retired)
      Huyen Swiftpaw, dragonknight (no defined role yet)

      "Failure is only the opportunity to begin again. Only this time, more wisely" - Uncle Iroh
    • vamp_emily
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      I woke up yesterday morning and my laptop was on the floor. The only way this could possibly happen was my schnauzer chased the cat, the cat panicked and got tangled in the mouse cord and laptop flew off the desk.

      So ya it can get worse. My keyboard USB is bent and it seems like ESO lag went up 1000% but I think it is because my e drive may have got damaged in the fall.

      I'm currently installing ESO on my c drive.. I have 96 gigs available and it says eso requires 80 gigs. During the install I got the error "not enough space" on drive.

      Anyways.. ya i can get worse. :)



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    • Kadoin
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      Huyen wrote: »
      Kadoin wrote: »
      Someone still uses a page file in 2019? Wow.

      Yes, windows creates one automaticly when needed.
      Reverb wrote: »
      several thousand of us update, launch and play the game daily without running into the issues you are seeing. This absolutely sounds like a localized problem. If it were an ESO issue it would be happening to everyone, or at least many people. It’s not.

      Lag, disconnects when lots of combat messages are being sent, guild history instability, broken quest phases, broken skills, broken break-free, inability to properly calculate cc immunity, crap communication and customer service, these are all ESO problems. These are things that impact the majority of the player base.

      The fact that you can’t launch the game is a you problem. And it sounds like you’re using both the Steam launcher and the ESO launcher is compounding the problem.

      Right, so the fact that the launcher refuses to download everything in one go from the server is a problem on my computer? Glad I decided to quit anyhow, instead of keep messing with broken stuff. And to add to that: I wont miss this rotten community one bit.

      Oi, this community is not rotten! Also you should make sure your disk is not failing.

      The problem you have sounds like the program is reading out of bounds. If it were a problem with the program itself it would be widespread, but it's not, which means its likely a problem with your file table on your disk or an external program causing the problem instead.

      You use a pagefile which also stresses the disk more, then you get a hard freeze. These are not characteristics of a launcher problem, because the launcher uses Microsoft .NET which is always ran in a virtual environment a .NET program should not cause a system freeze unless it loaded a bad driver. Again, it points to a problem with your disk being read/written to.

      If your hard drive is over 5 years or close to its max space limit, then it could very well be that the disk is bad and once you read/write over the bad sector Windows crashes. But you don't have to trust me, just go look at your system logs or wait a while for it to be proven. I'd back my data up if I were you.
    • bearbelly
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      Huyen wrote: »
      rpa wrote: »
      Do not use Steam for any game which can be played without.

      Anyway they are going to do a patching overhaul at Q1 2020 and when it happens everyone will need to reload game client.

      Hold up...I have to go through this crap again???

      @Huyen


      ESO's Performance Improvement Plan

      Under the yellow heading "Q1 2020: Update 25"...
      NOTE: Every ESO player, on every platform, will have to re-download the game client when this change happens, probably with the launch of Update 25
      NOTE: After this change happens, patch size going forward should also be reduced
    • Ydrisselle
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      Huyen wrote: »
      Kadoin wrote: »
      Someone still uses a page file in 2019? Wow.

      Yes, windows creates one automaticly when needed.
      Reverb wrote: »
      several thousand of us update, launch and play the game daily without running into the issues you are seeing. This absolutely sounds like a localized problem. If it were an ESO issue it would be happening to everyone, or at least many people. It’s not.

      Lag, disconnects when lots of combat messages are being sent, guild history instability, broken quest phases, broken skills, broken break-free, inability to properly calculate cc immunity, crap communication and customer service, these are all ESO problems. These are things that impact the majority of the player base.

      The fact that you can’t launch the game is a you problem. And it sounds like you’re using both the Steam launcher and the ESO launcher is compounding the problem.

      Right, so the fact that the launcher refuses to download everything in one go from the server is a problem on my computer? Glad I decided to quit anyhow, instead of keep messing with broken stuff. And to add to that: I wont miss this rotten community one bit.

      That's a problem with ESO's Steam integration. You simply didn't install the latest version of the game from Steam, and the ESO launcher will fix that and patch it up again. It's just one of the reasons why it's not a good idea to buy and launch ESO through Steam.
    • Partomax
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      Wooden PC?
      PC/EU - This is a signature
    • Number_51
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      For once my console pheasant status is better than a PC's?

      ZOS what have you done?!

      Console-Pheasant.png

      I may have to replace my guild rooster with a console pheasant.
      Edited by Number_51 on September 13, 2019 8:02PM
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