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Why are there still worthless sets in this game?
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BigBragg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭There will always be just a handful of sets that numerically rise to the top as the best pieces. Many sets can be used in various ways. I would say there are very few that are actually useless, and that is something that they do look at and change. Just look the the patch notes for Scalebreaker, there where and handful of sets that got reworked. -
Nemesis7884✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭zos is simply horrible at balancing - and nerf everything into the ground that could challenge the meta... for some weird reason instead of build variety they want to keep a specific meta alive
example - dro zakar set - before the nerf it was decent - not op, not meta, just decent and could lead to some nice build variety by allowing decent 2h/dw builds - but NOOOOO SIRRR ...of course zos nerfed it to the point where its hardly better than hundings...Edited by Nemesis7884 on September 7, 2019 5:49PM -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭StarOfElyon wrote: »Why is there such a short list of sets that are actually worth picking up?
Because people don't think for themselves and they just copy the top 3 builds from the tinterwebs and then complain about how everyone looks the same and runs the same gear.
Most of the sets are of use to someone, your trash is another players treasure ...
The Sidekick Order:
The Naked Nords | The Cannon Fodder of Tamriel | The Mercenaries without Skills | The League of formidable Crafters
The Psijic Order - 0.016% | Elder Moot | Lone Wolf Help | Great House Hlaalu -
StarOfElyon✭✭✭✭✭For some reason, I have an attraction to the Lamia set. I really want to use it but I know it's underpowered. So I have to ask myself if I want to use an underpowered set simply because I like the 5 piece piece bonus and get used to being wiped in PVP, or stick with the top sets that other people are using.
I'm actually saying to ZOS, there should be no bad/weak sets in the game at all. Before you add new sets, fix the old ones. -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭StarOfElyon wrote: »Why is there such a short list of sets that are actually worth picking up?
Because people don't think for themselves and they just copy the top 3 builds from the tinterwebs and then complain about how everyone looks the same and runs the same gear.
Most of the sets are of use to someone, your trash is another players treasure ...
"B-but Alcast/Logan Paul/Keemstar said it was the best set ingame!!""If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad." -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
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"B-but Alcast/Logan Paul/Keemstar said it was the best set ingame!!"
Because people don't think for themselves and they just copy the top 3 builds from the tinterwebs and then complain about how everyone looks the same and runs the same gear.StarOfElyon wrote: »Why is there such a short list of sets that are actually worth picking up?
Most of the sets are of use to someone, your trash is another players treasure ...
Not being BiS does not equal worthless. More often than not, the difference between BiS and not BiS is minute.
The Sidekick Order:
The Naked Nords | The Cannon Fodder of Tamriel | The Mercenaries without Skills | The League of formidable Crafters
The Psijic Order - 0.016% | Elder Moot | Lone Wolf Help | Great House Hlaalu -
SirAndy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭StarOfElyon wrote: »For some reason, I have an attraction to the Lamia set. I really want to use it but I know it's underpowered. So I have to ask myself if I want to use an underpowered set simply because I like the 5 piece piece bonus and get used to being wiped in PVP, or stick with the top sets that other people are using.
I'm actually saying to ZOS, there should be no bad/weak sets in the game at all. Before you add new sets, fix the old ones.
If you are getting "wiped" because one of your 5 piece bonus's is 1% below BiS the problem is not with your gear.
The Sidekick Order:
The Naked Nords | The Cannon Fodder of Tamriel | The Mercenaries without Skills | The League of formidable Crafters
The Psijic Order - 0.016% | Elder Moot | Lone Wolf Help | Great House Hlaalu -
beadabow✭✭✭Theory Crafting is a fun way of combining sets, skills, rotations and myriad other factors in the game to come up with your own custom build. Fortunately, most sets are relatively close together as far as functionalities go. Granted some are better than others somewhat, but not by so much.
If you like one set over another and it suits your playing style, it should still work nearly as well as the set it is replacing---within limits. There will always be the "flavor of the month" sets recommended by a majority of players that conform to the ever-changing meta. The trick of serious theory crafting is to find your own potent combination that equals or exceeds the meta to your satisfaction. Here is a link to the Unofficial Elders Scrolls Pages build editor that will help you create or find the right build for your character:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildEditor
That being said, the only sets I keep are the ones that are the most difficult to obtain, and may serve some role in planned or unplanned future builds. Sets I can farm relatively easily I either give away, sell or deconstruct.Edited by beadabow on September 7, 2019 7:10PM -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭most of the sets are awesome and i use them
one mans trash another mans treasure
just cause you dont like them doesnt mean you can destroy them.best in slot: is the armor, weapon, clothing look, pet, or no pet, jewelry, race, class, skill choices, amount of DPS, and skin color best fit to you and the way you wish to play and makes you feel good and performs what YOU think it should be.
worst in slot: what you read in zone chat, and forum comment, and forum thread, and you tube video, and live streamer advice, and class rep advice, and guild chat advice, and whisper told you to wear, and use for skill, and dress like, and use for weapon and armor. -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
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"B-but Alcast/Logan Paul/Keemstar said it was the best set ingame!!"
Because people don't think for themselves and they just copy the top 3 builds from the tinterwebs and then complain about how everyone looks the same and runs the same gear.StarOfElyon wrote: »Why is there such a short list of sets that are actually worth picking up?
Most of the sets are of use to someone, your trash is another players treasure ...
Not being BiS does not equal worthless. More often than not, the difference between BiS and not BiS is minute.
*hugs his gold Silks of the Sun set*"If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad." -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's impossible to balance however many dozens of sets exist in this game. Especially because the rules of the game and the various metas change with major updates every few months which makes useful a moving target. It's simply not practical.
And because ESO is played in so many different ways ([ultra-casual/casual/core/hardcore] [solo/group/raid] [overland/instanced] [pve/pvp]), a minor tweak to make a set useful in one use case might make it OP in another.