OMG the forums over reacted....again 😂

Heimpai

I haven’t crashed in half a year but after the patch that was meant to fix it i crashed 3 times before calling it quits...(PC)

Server is stable i suppose but far from smooth, guildies say the same in pve as well

I agree about the DoT‘s tho

WillhelmBlack

Yours Sincerely,

A Zergling x

kylewwefan

Yep. The game hasn’t ran this smooth for me in quite awhile. They fixed something really good on console. Is there an appreciation thread somewhere I need to check into

hasi

Heimpai wrote: »

I haven’t crashed in half a year but after the patch that was meant to fix it i crashed 3 times before calling it quits...(PC)

Server is stable i suppose but far from smooth, guildies say the same in pve as well

I agree about the DoT‘s tho

3 Times? Damn, you're reaching the general Crash-Level of a Console Pleb.

Witar

Appo wrote: »

Dots in PvP are not a problem

As long as only one guy putting them on you.

Kel

"Dots in PvP are not a problem"

I'm guessing templar main?
Either that, or you're not playing in a populated campaign, or at all for that matter...

I haven't had a death recap WITHOUT soul trap or entropy on it. Purge is ridiculously expensive for the low amount of cleansing it does, as opposed to DoT's which are super cheap to cast. You can't spam it, yet you have to because there's no way you're fighting more than two people without one of those players putting DoT's on you.

The good thing is console has build in video recording capabilities.
Looking forward to seeing how you deal with DoT's, since you say it isn't an issue and we all need to L2P.
So, show us. Show us this great performance and you dealing with DoT's.

Words are cheap..seeing is believing.

For instance.....
https://youtu.be/F5ZTkFMnhW0

Performance in Scalebreaker seems real good....🤣🤣

Aurielle

Magplar main claims dot meta is fine.

Vlad9425

There was no over reaction. The update sucks.

Aurielle

The only positive thing I can say for the update is there is much less FPS drop and stuttering, especially around wayshrines. However, the skill lag in BGs and Cyrodiil is REAL. Load screens are also extremely long. I wouldn’t be surprised if these long load screens are a workaround bandaid fix for the FPS drops and stuttering that used to occur after porting. Players can’t stutter if they’re forced into an artificially long load screen to give their systems a chance to catch up with our spaghetti code!

jainiadral

Kel wrote: »

"Dots in PvP are not a problem"

I'm guessing templar main?
Either that, or you're not playing in a populated campaign, or at all for that matter...

I haven't had a death recap WITHOUT soul trap or entropy on it. Purge is ridiculously expensive for the low amount of cleansing it does, as opposed to DoT's which are super cheap to cast. You can't spam it, yet you have to because there's no way you're fighting more than two people without one of those players putting DoT's on you.

The good thing is console has build in video recording capabilities.
Looking forward to seeing how you deal with DoT's, since you say it isn't an issue and we all need to L2P.
So, show us. Show us this great performance and you dealing with DoT's.

Words are cheap..seeing is believing.

For instance.....
https://youtu.be/F5ZTkFMnhW0

Performance in Scalebreaker seems real good....🤣🤣

*boggle* Is that how long it usually takes to get a death recap on console? *boggle* Let alone the other crap that eas happening in the vid. Just... damn.

My soul hurts

Kadoin

Most of the players complaining are probably mad they cannot 1v20 anymore by running around a tree.

Aurielle wrote: »

Magplar main claims dot meta is fine.

I'm using my DK in noCP, CP, and BGs. Stam sorc, stam templar, mag warden, mag NB, stam DK, and I say the "DoT meta" is not a big deal. Does that work better?

Wayshuba

AyeshaBelladonna wrote: »

Gaggin wrote: »

The dot meta is horrible. Everyone in my raid group hates their rotations now(myself included). Healing is okay in raids, but kinda boring now. Cyro is alright except for the performance issues and the continued pop problem due to faction lock. BGs are not fun now. I've been going all out on bgs ever since morrowind brought them to us, do about 5-6 toons on rotation, but this patch makes them not enjoyable at all.

i stopped doing bg's when they took cp back out of them again. i really don't understand why we can't have cp and non-cp ones but thats neither here nor there. Out of curiosity though- i've seen a couple people mention bg's being unplayable now.... why? what about the changes hurt them so much? my friends in the non-cp campaigns haven't really been complaining about much so im not sure what the prob is that's in bg's specifically? can you elaborate?

With the changes, it is an absurd amount of Dizzy swing, soul trap and entropy spam. The BG is dominated in overabundance by three builds Stamden, Magplar and StamDK.

While the above had just made BGs boring, the changes to CC and a few other things without counters have made them almost unplayable at times. What were they thinking with the Eclipse changes? Even the Dev comment makes no sense - we wanted people to back off in a mode of play that requires you not too. Do they realize how powerful the Magplar has become because of this one skill that they didn't even bother to include a counter for. Add to that the non-stop fear from necros and blades coming out of stealth.

Before this patch I can't even remember the last time I died to DS or Execute in BGs. Now, on death recap it is always the same four skills in there - Soul Trap, Dizzy Swing, Execute, and Entropy. In other words, they are BORING right now unless you play one of those classes that are dominating I mentioned above.

Ermiq

Gaggin wrote: »

The dot meta is horrible. Everyone in my raid group hates their rotations now(myself included). Healing is okay in raids, but kinda boring now. Cyro is alright except for the performance issues and the continued pop problem due to faction lock. BGs are not fun now. I've been going all out on bgs ever since morrowind brought them to us, do about 5-6 toons on rotation, but this patch makes them not enjoyable at all.

I haven't noticed any significant changes in BGs. I was offline for like 3 months or more, and yesterday I've played BGs with my usual PvP setup on my MagWarden, the same as I had before all these recent changes, and it felt quite the same.
Necros are very strong though, to me it feels like they are even stronger than DKs and Templars used to be.

Kagukan

Yep. Huge over reaction to DoT's. The DoT's with this patch are perfectly fine where they are. No need to adjust them at all.
And for those that complain that the "DoT meta" isn't fun. Here is an idea for you...Don't use DoT's.

Idinuse

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

AyeshaBelladonna wrote: »

Appo wrote: »

Update landed on console, for us the new dot builds are great for PvE lack of skill tracking makes this patch really nice and smooth for us.

Dots in PvP are not a problem, i was expecting to be dying left right and centre from these aparent "Op Dotszzz" 😂😂 no issues here, these are genuine L2P issues, burst is still as strong. Cast times on ultis are slightly annoying but bareable just need to adapt a little.

Server seemed much smoother with overall better performance, still room for much more improvement however a nice step in the right direction.

Nice work to all involved in the update, i was dreading it based on forum feedback but my word what an unncecassary reaction it has been.

Now less drastic changes every 6 months and you are onto a winner, i fully expect small changes to combat etc with updates but it really needs toning down, too much too often is detrimental and annoying.

Thanks again great job!!

I was of the same opinion honestly for PC when the changes hit. Of course, we had some major stability issues that needed to be ironed out and more than a few bugs needed troubleshooting... but overall i was quite happy with the changes too and since out last patch on PC everything that was majorly wrong from the update has been fixed. Still a ways to go sure- but overall these changes felt positive!

Bro, you have 6 magplars in your signature. I believe you are entirely sincere, because magplar replaced magsorc in being BiS for everything magicka related

Hahaha "Dots in PvP are not a problem" - on my Magplars.... 😂 It's like saying DoTs in PvP are not a problem with my 2H build 😂. For the rest of you Magicka Plebs - go ahead and use that 6K mag Purge over and over and over.

TequilaFire

Yep great update, no problems at all.
If you stand and drink mead at the Rosey Lion Inn all day.

Tandor

Zodiac_ wrote: »

You should consider stop taking whatever you are using

Perhaps there are other players who should ask him what he's taking so they can take some too...

BNOC

Aurielle wrote: »

Magplar main claims dot meta is fine.

Another one here.

The dot meta is fine small scale, but it's almost impossible to cleanse after that point - When 1 stam or mag dk can instantly apply like 5 dots to you, you can't really spend your day cleansing, let alone against multiple decent players.

On top of that, as expected, most of the Templars I ran in to or seen fighting on Xbox Eu last night were being forced into back bar healing until they inevitably died and that includes experienced Templars.

I don't know whether it's because we've had our player base dwindle so much that the only real players who are left are just really good but either way, Templar doesn't seem as high and mighty as the forums suggested - Do I feel stronger? yes, but I think I'm doing less burst which is probably the most important thing.

Dots are situationally strong in my opinion, just as before.

If people aren't turning most Templars into healbots just as they always have, then that's gotta be on you.

It's like all the posts we read about how OP cleanse it in this dot meta were from guys who duel all day long 1v1 - That's not indicative of the game as a whole.

If anyone's got clips of Templars cleansing all dots and not becoming a healbot in the process whilst still doing enough damage to kill players, link em and I'll reevaluate.

Kartalin

Kadoin wrote: »

Most of the players complaining are probably mad they cannot 1v20 anymore by running around a tree.

Aurielle wrote: »

Magplar main claims dot meta is fine.

I'm using my DK in noCP, CP, and BGs. Stam sorc, stam templar, mag warden, mag NB, stam DK, and I say the "DoT meta" is not a big deal. Does that work better?

Are you slotting purge though, even on your stam toons? I think the big problem is people don't want to change their builds but they'll have to. Even when I was ganking on my stamblade 3+ years ago I'd have efficient purge on my bar to clear marks and dots. People just gotta suck it up and balance your build to the new meta.

Of course if you're being hit by 4 people layering dots on you it's going to suck. I think what we've really seen so far on PC is the death of 1vXers and a lot of small scalers running a little bit larger to account for this, at least the successful ones.

Kadoin

Kartalin wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

Most of the players complaining are probably mad they cannot 1v20 anymore by running around a tree.

Aurielle wrote: »

Magplar main claims dot meta is fine.

I'm using my DK in noCP, CP, and BGs. Stam sorc, stam templar, mag warden, mag NB, stam DK, and I say the "DoT meta" is not a big deal. Does that work better?

Are you slotting purge though, even on your stam toons? I think the big problem is people don't want to change their builds but they'll have to. Even when I was ganking on my stamblade 3+ years ago I'd have efficient purge on my bar to clear marks and dots. People just gotta suck it up and balance your build to the new meta.

Of course if you're being hit by 4 people layering dots on you it's going to suck. I think what we've really seen so far on PC is the death of 1vXers and a lot of small scalers running a little bit larger to account for this, at least the successful ones.

No. I don't waste slot space on purge. I rather layer HoTs or healing sources and overcome the damage that way for a # of reasons, the main one being that burst heals all seem delayed this patch vs. HoTs and coupled with enough damage reduction (or simply rolling) the DoTs can be ignored.

For stam characters, its achieved through briarheart, crit healing, lifesteal, and other healing (crit surge on stam sorc, ritual on templar, HP% heals other classes). I don't even slot vigor most of the time or use hp/lingering pot.

The rest of the builds focus on controlling the fight and speed (the true way to deal with things this patch is speed and layered HoTs). You'd be surprised at how effective that is, but keep that quiet.

Juhasow

Appo wrote: »

Update landed on console, for us the new dot builds are great for PvE lack of skill tracking makes this patch really nice and smooth for us.

Dots in PvP are not a problem, i was expecting to be dying left right and centre from these aparent "Op Dotszzz" 😂😂 no issues here, these are genuine L2P issues, burst is still as strong. Cast times on ultis are slightly annoying but bareable just need to adapt a little.

Server seemed much smoother with overall better performance, still room for much more improvement however a nice step in the right direction.

Nice work to all involved in the update, i was dreading it based on forum feedback but my word what an unncecassary reaction it has been.

Now less drastic changes every 6 months and you are onto a winner, i fully expect small changes to combat etc with updates but it really needs toning down, too much too often is detrimental and annoying.

Thanks again great job!!

Console player possibly without acces to PTS judging the state of the game after 1 day from the update launch. LOL

How about giving it time and waiting until people will adapt and until You'll clear some content to actually post viable opinion because as for now opinions like the one above are no more valid then forums over reaction.

buttaface

BaiterOfZergs wrote: »

How can you give proper feedback after one day of the game being on console?

Somehow I missed your posting the above when the forum was crammed with hyperbolic DOT hate threads on Day 1 of PC patch release. Maybe I just didn't read the forums carefully enough that day.

Sanctum74

huschdeguddzje wrote: »

The sky is falling down after every patch

That's not the sky falling, it's the pvp population falling down more and more every patch.

method__01

magsorc=dead class
sutain getting worst with every patch
performance=same old,same old
pvp=lol
frame drop,bsod when teleport,desync,etc=nothing changed

was hoping for a boost to necro but class is still garbage,no sustain,no dmg

my stamsorc will do all-again-till they decide to nerf her as this company does with everything good in this game

Grandma

as the forums always have and always will. I was a fool for believing half of it for a minute.

MyKillv2.0

Icy_Waffles wrote: »

I completely agree it’s not nearly as bad as the forums were saying.

I believe that this is the first time in the history of the game that this has happened.

Donny_Vito

I think everyone, to some degree, hates change. You just see the full spectrum on the forums depending on how much the poster hates change. With this OP, he seems to adapt to change easily enough and moves on. But with some of these other threads, it seems that any change is going to cause extreme discomfort and potential outrage for the poster.

eso_lags

Kadoin wrote: »

Most of the players complaining are probably mad they cannot 1v20 anymore by running around a tree.

Aurielle wrote: »

Magplar main claims dot meta is fine.

I'm using my DK in noCP, CP, and BGs. Stam sorc, stam templar, mag warden, mag NB, stam DK, and I say the "DoT meta" is not a big deal. Does that work better?

Good players will always find a way to kill bots. Its always so amazing how people will complain about a solo player killing them. I wonder if anyone ever stops and thinks about why that person was able to kite them around a tree and kill them. But I guess its easier to just blame something other than yourself.

Anyway, you should post a clip of you fighting a decent meta ish magplar while on a medium armor build.. Would love to see it.

dotme

Kel wrote: »

https://youtu.be/F5ZTkFMnhW0

What on earth did I just watch????

Loving the Jetpack effect at 1:01 though...

regime211

BattleAxe wrote: »

Agreed with OP performance has been good and now with a clear cut bottom line for skills future updates will be more precise. Performance can be focused on more instead of classes and skills once the audit is finally finished

How?! I keep crashing on ps4 NA everytime I try and do something. Yall are tripping!!