Warden or Nightblade for a bard build?

HailSanta28

Jimmy_The_Fixer

If you’re looking for a weapon-focused character that can buff and support its team, you’re looking at warden.

Nightblade needs to be a spellcaster build in order to fulfill that role.

Tryxus

Inhuman003

Other

For a Bard Build an actual Bard class of itself

Music DPS buff for the group in combat.

Jack-of-all trades

Bard's College Experience

I feel like there's more I can add to this but that's all for now.

Uryel

Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »

If you’re looking for a weapon-focused character that can buff and support its team, you’re looking at warden.

Nightblade needs to be a spellcaster build in order to fulfill that role.

A Warden will also be much better at supporting their team as a caster. There are some fun to play and pretty cool tools in each of the classes' toolboxes, but if you're going to support the group, you're not really going to do that on a stamina build no matter what.

That being said, my support magblade vampire has one job : making everyone's life easier. She's certainly not your typical bard, but she does walk in their shoes. Not a proper healer, can sort of tank through sheer regen / HP theft, deals ridiculously low damage (but the same amount of damage on each enemy, no matter their numbers), has a nirnhoned restoration staff on her attack bar (yep, it was intended), but at the end of the fight, it's commonplace for her to ear stuff like "eh, funny that, I remembered that fight to be harder last time I came here". So, look and feel of a bard. Well, mostly feel. A bard that would look this bad would scare the audience away, what with the red injected eyes and all.

ESO_Nightingale

Just do /esraj it's the best group support skill in the game because it gathers people together.

Vlad9425

Bard build? This ain’t Skyrim 😂

MartiniDaniels

Other

Dragonknight.

Only DK has that melodic sound of cauterize and stomp of fragmenting shield.

RavenSworn

technically, i think Templar would be a better support class. Also Lightsinger sounds better in my book.

TheShadowScout

Other

I'd say... "Bard" guild skill line, but then... I would say that, would I not?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/387560/additional-guild-ideas-mk-ii

Inhuman003 wrote: »

For a Bard Build an actual Bard class of itself

NO!
No, new classes are evil! EVIL I say!
It may look good for those who are newly come to ESO, but for those who have been here since launch... its exceedingly painful to contemplate having make yet more alts just to enjoy new classyness, and even moreso when a new class might better fit a character idea we have been playing fopr years then what we had back when we made that one...

New skill lines on the other hand, skill lines that -everyone- can enjoy if they so choose... those would be nifty!

Hazurko_RaShan

Other

RavenSworn wrote: »

technically, i think Templar would be a better support class. Also Lightsinger sounds better in my book.

I agree on the Templar call... followed by warden. Also you need some jorvulds gear for the 40% increase to buffs and shields and such as those.

I disagree that a stamina toon cant do the role. circle of protection razor caltrops vigor all use stamina and are worth including.... it might be the truest hybrid build though. Would be a pain to level up in battlegrounds though. Maybe start off as a dps/healer until you get the skills then make the switcheroo?

Just a few thoughts...

ccfeeling

Other

New class better

Hazurko_RaShan

Other

https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-templar-heal-build-pvp/

Darkenarlol

bard build? wtf is is it?

like cast a 10 sec dot and

use /lute untill it expires??

TheShadowScout

Other

Darkenarlol wrote: »

bard build? wtf is is it?

Well, generally a "bard style" build would be one geared less on direct combat ability or tankyness or healing... but instead more on stealth, charisma and support skills.
As in... "...playing the lute while others do the fighting"?

Oh, and as an addendum - Yeah, the OP mentioned "nightblade" who have the sneaky sneaks covered, and warden which does the "let a charmed bear fight for you while you play the lute" part. Both are in the "bard" direction, but neither really is a bardic build per se...

Hazurko_RaShan

Other

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n8rfFRvIH0

Inhuman003

Other

TheShadowScout wrote: »

I'd say... "Bard" guild skill line, but then... I would say that, would I not?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/387560/additional-guild-ideas-mk-ii

Inhuman003 wrote: »

For a Bard Build an actual Bard class of itself

NO!
No, new classes are evil! EVIL I say!
It may look good for those who are newly come to ESO, but for those who have been here since launch... its exceedingly painful to contemplate having make yet more alts just to enjoy new classyness, and even moreso when a new class might better fit a character idea we have been playing fopr years then what we had back when we made that one...

New skill lines on the other hand, skill lines that -everyone- can enjoy if they so choose... those would be nifty!

Ok, no monk class you hear that Zenimax no more new classes in ESO any more Bethesda thanks you TheShadowScout.

Oh everyone thank TheShadowScout

TheShadowScout

Other

Inhuman003 wrote: »

Ok, no monk class you hear that Zenimax no more new classes in ESO any more Bethesda thanks you...

Yay!
But really, the only way the pain of new classes for old players could be migrated would be if they also added class change, and they have always said "nope" to that one.
I for one would much rather see some other way to diversify the existing classes instead of just adding more... I mean, I almost lost heart with the necromancer this year...

...

BtW, "Monk" would not be a class, but more like a collection of skill lines. Unarmed as weapon, possibly with some sort of "martial arts magic" to imbue punches with magica to actually make it comparable to swords and such... it might make for a nifty melee magica build setup! Then the light armor would fit right with that...

But weapon skill lines are a different discussion from bardic lute-playing:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371862/additional-weapon-skill-ideas-mk-ii/p1