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I thought magsorc shields were nerfed?
MaxJrFTW
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I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
Edited by MaxJrFTW on August 18, 2019 2:01PM https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
"I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What the hell are you tring to proove ?
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MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What the hell are you tring to proove ?
Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.Edited by MaxJrFTW on August 18, 2019 2:13PM"I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It’s honestly hard to tell with the vanilla UI, but they were. You need either more magicka or plenty of points into Bastion to have a stronker shield now. Also can’t be more tha your health with the health cap being set at 60% max with Hardened Ward.Edited by WuffyCerulei on August 18, 2019 2:15PMFor the love of Kyne, buff sorc. PC NACP 2100+Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HMs/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR0 -
Aedaryl✭✭✭✭✭
✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What the hell are you tring to proove ?
Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.
Are you serious and dumb or is it a troll ?
Dampen got it's scaling nerfed by 9%.
Hardened got it's scaling nerfed by 9% and it's cost increase by 810.
The cap was not achieavable before and still not acheavable now.
In NO WAY shield got buffed.
The cap change was a PvE change where shield size are the double than in PvP - to compensate a bit the shields becoming extremely expensive.20 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What the hell are you tring to proove ?
Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.
Bruh I gotta put 40 points into Bastion and have like 43k magicka just to get an 11k shield in pvp. And that’s a good 1-2k less than what I had pre-scalebreaker. It was a buff for pve, as the shield would be over their max health, but cannot go over 60%. But only slightly over their health. B r u h.For the love of Kyne, buff sorc. PC NACP 2100+Star-Sïnger - Khajiit Magicka Sorc - EP Grand Overlord - Flawless Conqueror vMA/vBRP/vDSA no death/vHel Ra HM/vAA HM/vSO HM/vMoL HM/vHoF HM/vAS +2/vCR+3/vSS HMs/vKA HMs/vVH/vRG Oax HM/vDSR6 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭What’s happening in this video is this player switched from harness to dampen so they should see somewhere close to a overall 12% buff to their shield stack. This has nothing to do with the 60% health cap. Overall though you are going to see magicka players with bigger shields this patch as more and more switch to dampen when they realize the sustain from harness is bad. All magicka builds will take a huge sustain loss in doing this so you’ll see magicka builds running a lot more recovery. I know currently on the magblade and magsorc builds that I run I can’t sustain keeping dampen up. I’m going to need over 2200 mag recovery.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »What’s happening in this video is this player switched from harness to dampen so they should see somewhere close to a overall 12% buff to their shield stack. This has nothing to do with the 60% health cap. Overall though you are going to see magicka players with bigger shields this patch as more and more switch to dampen when they realize the sustain from harness is bad. All magicka builds will take a huge sustain loss in doing this so you’ll see magicka builds running a lot more recovery. I know currently on the magblade and magsorc builds that I run I can’t sustain keeping dampen up. I’m going to need over 2200 mag recovery.
Sustain is a huge problem for Sorcs this patch. It is also a daunting theorycrafting challenge! My big issue is that defensive spells cost so much more than offensive spells now. This makes it really hard to come up with a build that balances mitigation, sustain and damage. My front bar only needs 2000 regen while my back bar needs 3000 to sustain. I've split the difference at 2500, but it's still really tricky to keep from running out of gas.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE2 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What the hell are you tring to proove ?
Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.
Are you serious and dumb or is it a troll ?
Dampen got it's scaling nerfed by 9%.
Hardened got it's scaling nerfed by 9% and it's cost increase by 810.
The cap was not achieavable before and still not acheavable now.
In NO WAY shield got buffed.
The cap change was a PvE change where shield size are the double than in PvP - to compensate a bit the shields becoming extremely expensive.
Shields are a f joke, they get burned down so fast and they cost way too much to keep up as much as you need, rip.
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ku5h✭✭✭✭✭
✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What are you saying, that shields got buffed?! Ohhh my dear, dear lord...
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✭✭✭✭✭WuffyCerulei wrote: »Bruh I gotta put 40 points into Bastion and have like 43k magicka just to get an 11k shield in pvp. And that’s a good 1-2k less than what I had pre-scalebreaker ... B r u h.
If you build to get close to the new 60% cap you'll be hitting like a wet noodle. In reality, most Sorcs will never get anywhere close to that cap but they still have all the negatives that came with the shield changes.
No matter how you slice it, that ain't a buff ...
Edited by SirAndy on August 18, 2019 6:50PM7 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭I've no fuel to fire the current debate. Just wanted to say, in general, it's an interesting thing to balance. (Or not)
Heavy armor "seems" its to be the tankiest due to highest resistance. Then there's medium and light.
Personally, I was tankier on my light armor high shield builds than I was on my medium builds.
Going forward, it's unclear what ZoS goal is tbh.1 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What the hell are you tring to proove ?
Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.
How are you proving that?
Nothing in the video you linked provides any evidence of shields being too strong?<Noricum>
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MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What the hell are you tring to proove ?
Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.
Are you serious and dumb or is it a troll ?
Dampen got it's scaling nerfed by 9%.
Hardened got it's scaling nerfed by 9% and it's cost increase by 810.
The cap was not achieavable before and still not acheavable now.
In NO WAY shield got buffed.
The cap change was a PvE change where shield size are the double than in PvP - to compensate a bit the shields becoming extremely expensive.
I guess the video is a lie then..."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭thankyourat wrote: »What’s happening in this video is this player switched from harness to dampen so they should see somewhere close to a overall 12% buff to their shield stack. This has nothing to do with the 60% health cap. Overall though you are going to see magicka players with bigger shields this patch as more and more switch to dampen when they realize the sustain from harness is bad. All magicka builds will take a huge sustain loss in doing this so you’ll see magicka builds running a lot more recovery. I know currently on the magblade and magsorc builds that I run I can’t sustain keeping dampen up. I’m going to need over 2200 mag recovery.
Or they can be like me and not run them at all. You save so much magicka you will be able to do things you never thought possible and your opponents will love you even more than they do when you shield up. That solves all the problems, but it doesn't stop the crying or eventual reporter in BGs...1 -
Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Magsorcs getting any actual meaningful nerfs?
Edited by Akinos on August 18, 2019 11:58PMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp7 -
MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What are you saying, that shields got buffed?! Ohhh my dear, dear lord...
I didn't say that. One of the best sorcs in the game did."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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✭I think shields are balanced they way they are now, as compared to before when it couldn't be crit and purely scaled off of magicka.0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What the hell are you tring to proove ?
Considering this was not a sorc change your guess is as good as mine. The change made was to annulment as well.0 -
Heatnix90✭✭✭✭✭
✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
Hardened and Dampen, both of which got their cap increased in Scalebreaker, and points into Bastion.
Sit down and l2p.0 -
josh.lackey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭How would you even know how big your shields are with the default UI and 22k health.0 -
HowlKimchi✭✭✭✭✭
✭josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »How would you even know how big your shields are with the default UI and 22k health.
doesnt the tooltip show an accurate value?0 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What are you saying, that shields got buffed?! Ohhh my dear, dear lord...
I didn't say that. One of the best sorcs in the game did.
Where did he say shields were buffed?<Noricum>
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ATomiX69✭✭✭✭I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
What the hell are you tring to proove ?
Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.
Are you serious and dumb or is it a troll ?
Dampen got it's scaling nerfed by 9%.
Hardened got it's scaling nerfed by 9% and it's cost increase by 810.
The cap was not achieavable before and still not acheavable now.
In NO WAY shield got buffed.
The cap change was a PvE change where shield size are the double than in PvP - to compensate a bit the shields becoming extremely expensive.
I guess the video is a lie then...
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New PvP content when?
Better cyro performance when?
Farmed about 3 GO's worth of AP
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Reevster✭✭✭✭✭Shield ? Whats a shield... never use them.
Is that something sucky players use to try and stay alive or something?1
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