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I thought magsorc shields were nerfed?

MaxJrFTW
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I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype
Edited by MaxJrFTW on August 18, 2019 2:01PM
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  • MaxJrFTW
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype

    What the hell are you tring to proove ?

    Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.
    Edited by MaxJrFTW on August 18, 2019 2:13PM
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    It’s honestly hard to tell with the vanilla UI, but they were. You need either more magicka or plenty of points into Bastion to have a stronker shield now. Also can’t be more tha your health with the health cap being set at 60% max with Hardened Ward.
    Edited by WuffyCerulei on August 18, 2019 2:15PM
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  • Emma_Overload
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    What’s happening in this video is this player switched from harness to dampen so they should see somewhere close to a overall 12% buff to their shield stack. This has nothing to do with the 60% health cap. Overall though you are going to see magicka players with bigger shields this patch as more and more switch to dampen when they realize the sustain from harness is bad. All magicka builds will take a huge sustain loss in doing this so you’ll see magicka builds running a lot more recovery. I know currently on the magblade and magsorc builds that I run I can’t sustain keeping dampen up. I’m going to need over 2200 mag recovery.

    Sustain is a huge problem for Sorcs this patch. It is also a daunting theorycrafting challenge! My big issue is that defensive spells cost so much more than offensive spells now. This makes it really hard to come up with a build that balances mitigation, sustain and damage. My front bar only needs 2000 regen while my back bar needs 3000 to sustain. I've split the difference at 2500, but it's still really tricky to keep from running out of gas.
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  • ku5h
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype

    What are you saying, that shields got buffed?! Ohhh my dear, dear lord...
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  • Royalthought
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    I've no fuel to fire the current debate. Just wanted to say, in general, it's an interesting thing to balance. (Or not)

    Heavy armor "seems" its to be the tankiest due to highest resistance. Then there's medium and light.

    Personally, I was tankier on my light armor high shield builds than I was on my medium builds.

    Going forward, it's unclear what ZoS goal is tbh.
  • Derra
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype

    What the hell are you tring to proove ?

    Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.

    How are you proving that?

    Nothing in the video you linked provides any evidence of shields being too strong?
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  • gepe87
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    Magsorcs always adapt.
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  • MaxJrFTW
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype

    What the hell are you tring to proove ?

    Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.

    Are you serious and dumb or is it a troll ?

    Dampen got it's scaling nerfed by 9%.

    Hardened got it's scaling nerfed by 9% and it's cost increase by 810.

    The cap was not achieavable before and still not acheavable now.

    In NO WAY shield got buffed.

    The cap change was a PvE change where shield size are the double than in PvP - to compensate a bit the shields becoming extremely expensive.

    I guess the video is a lie then...
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  • Kadoin
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    What’s happening in this video is this player switched from harness to dampen so they should see somewhere close to a overall 12% buff to their shield stack. This has nothing to do with the 60% health cap. Overall though you are going to see magicka players with bigger shields this patch as more and more switch to dampen when they realize the sustain from harness is bad. All magicka builds will take a huge sustain loss in doing this so you’ll see magicka builds running a lot more recovery. I know currently on the magblade and magsorc builds that I run I can’t sustain keeping dampen up. I’m going to need over 2200 mag recovery.

    Or they can be like me and not run them at all. You save so much magicka you will be able to do things you never thought possible and your opponents will love you even more than they do when you shield up. That solves all the problems, but it doesn't stop the crying or eventual reporter in BGs...
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Right.......right......geezus.
  • MaxJrFTW
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    ***5h wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype

    What are you saying, that shields got buffed?! Ohhh my dear, dear lord...

    I didn't say that. One of the best sorcs in the game did.
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  • No_Division
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    Akinos wrote: »
    Magsorcs getting any actual meaningful nerfs?

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  • HaruKamui
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    I think shields are balanced they way they are now, as compared to before when it couldn't be crit and purely scaled off of magicka.
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  • idk
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype

    What the hell are you tring to proove ?

    Considering this was not a sorc change your guess is as good as mine. The change made was to annulment as well.
    Really, idk
  • SmackNCheese
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    I lost 3k ward strength from my shield from just the patch.
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  • Heatnix90
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype

    Hardened and Dampen, both of which got their cap increased in Scalebreaker, and points into Bastion.

    Sit down and l2p.
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  • josh.lackey_ESO
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    How would you even know how big your shields are with the default UI and 22k health.
  • HaruKamui
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    How would you even know how big your shields are with the default UI and 22k health.

    doesnt the tooltip show an accurate value?
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  • Derra
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    ***5h wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype

    What are you saying, that shields got buffed?! Ohhh my dear, dear lord...

    I didn't say that. One of the best sorcs in the game did.

    Where did he say shields were buffed?
    Every comment is from a pvp pov unless stated otherwise.

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  • ATomiX69
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    Aedaryl wrote: »
    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    I kid! We all know magsorcs have to be OP every patch.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantCoyLarkPipeHype

    What the hell are you tring to proove ?

    Do i detect a hint of aggressiveness? I'm also not "trying". I am in fact proving that shields are too strong. As we knew they would be when they increased the cap to 60%.

    Are you serious and dumb or is it a troll ?

    Dampen got it's scaling nerfed by 9%.

    Hardened got it's scaling nerfed by 9% and it's cost increase by 810.

    The cap was not achieavable before and still not acheavable now.

    In NO WAY shield got buffed.

    The cap change was a PvE change where shield size are the double than in PvP - to compensate a bit the shields becoming extremely expensive.

    I guess the video is a lie then...

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  • Ozazz
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    magic sorc's took a huge hit, obvious a biased troll!
  • Reevster
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    Shield ? Whats a shield... never use them.

    Is that something sucky players use to try and stay alive or something?
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