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So the new healing play style is thus

Hazurko_RaShan
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One bar for healing

and one bar for dpsing when there is no healing to be done.

Great. That's how i played anyway.

Also, and end of the endless orbs which blind me while playing as a tank. Literally people would spam them and i could not see to block because of my screen being awash in yellow orb glow.

Thank you Zos for fixing that.


Everything works now exactly as i have always chosen to play and i dont have to make excuses for why i dont have two healing bars when it was already (pre 23 patch) entirely redundant.

<3<3<3
Edited by Hazurko_RaShan on August 10, 2019 6:35PM
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    Also, if you are playing a healer and want a dps bar, be sure to use spell damage as it buffs your healing done. crit damage and crit rate really do nothing for you.
  • Jhalin
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    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again

    No. You have it wrong. They have improved it greatly. Please thank them.
  • bearbelly
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again


    Jhalin wrote: »
    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again

    No. You have it wrong. They have improved it greatly. Please thank them.

    Yay! An argument on the interwebs.

    Tn5EOCD.gif

  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    Jhalin wrote: »
    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again


    Jhalin wrote: »
    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again

    No. You have it wrong. They have improved it greatly. Please thank them.

    Yay! An argument on the interwebs.

    Tn5EOCD.gif

    i love your glasses but the earrings are just gawdy
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    then its not a healer, its a dd who does some heals
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  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    Of course it's a healer. It's a healer who knows to make themselves useful in a fight when healing is so easy and they have a lot of free time on their hands in a fight because they are such AMAZING HEALERS and they heal so well there's time for bashing and smashing.
    Edited by Hazurko_RaShan on August 10, 2019 6:55PM
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    i have yet to find a healer who can keep me up when they are dd more
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  • Nanfoodle
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    Sorry new to the game... Why wouldn't a healer do some dps or buffing?
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    i have yet to find a healer who can keep me up when they are dd more

    Sorry you do such a poor job staying out of red circles and other aoe. Maybe play smarter?
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    Sorry new to the game... Why wouldn't a healer do some dps or buffing?

    No reason. YOU are spot on.
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    One bar for healing

    and one bar for dpsing when there is no healing to be done.

    Great. That's how i played anyway.

    Also, and end of the endless orbs which blind me while playing as a tank. Literally people would spam them and i could not see to block because of my screen being awash in yellow orb glow.

    Thank you Zos for fixing that.


    Everything works now exactly as i have always chosen to play and i dont have to make excuses for why i dont have two healing bars when it was already (pre 23 patch) entirely redundant.

    <3<3<3

    I couldn't stand the orb spam when I tanked either. Drove me nuts and often made me miss blocks as well.
    Edited by Jeremy on August 10, 2019 7:04PM
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    i have yet to find a healer who can keep me up when they are dd more

    Sorry you do such a poor job staying out of red circles and other aoe. Maybe play smarter?

    i know how to play been play since alpha
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
  • bearbelly
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    Jhalin wrote: »
    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again


    Jhalin wrote: »
    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again

    No. You have it wrong. They have improved it greatly. Please thank them.

    Yay! An argument on the interwebs.

    Tn5EOCD.gif

    i love your glasses but the earrings are just gawdy

    Whoa. Easy there, girlfriend; I'm on your side. :D
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    One bar for healing

    and one bar for dpsing when there is no healing to be done.

    Great. That's how i played anyway.

    Also, and end of the endless orbs which blind me while playing as a tank. Literally people would spam them and i could not see to block because of my screen being awash in yellow orb glow.

    Thank you Zos for fixing that.


    Everything works now exactly as i have always chosen to play and i dont have to make excuses for why i dont have two healing bars when it was already (pre 23 patch) entirely redundant.

    <3<3<3

    I couldn't stand the orb spam when I tanked either. Drove me nuts and often made me miss blocks as well.

    See I'm not the only one! Try blocking in vet Cradle of Shadows when the healer spams those orbs and you are dead because you cant time the block.
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    bearbelly wrote: »
    bearbelly wrote: »
    Jhalin wrote: »
    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again


    Jhalin wrote: »
    Amazing when ZOS turns the Bad Healer setup into the default

    Godawful combat team strikes again

    No. You have it wrong. They have improved it greatly. Please thank them.

    Yay! An argument on the interwebs.

    Tn5EOCD.gif

    i love your glasses but the earrings are just gawdy

    Whoa. Easy there, girlfriend; I'm on your side. :D

    Ahahahahaha! <3
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    i have yet to find a healer who can keep me up when they are dd more

    Sorry you do such a poor job staying out of red circles and other aoe. Maybe play smarter?

    i know how to play been play since alpha

    Sorry. Didnt mean to hurt your feelings.
  • Lisutaris
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    I am at 8-14k dps single target right now. With 2 supp sets and buff/heal rotation. Dps depends on grp and if i dont have to heal every inc aoe for my dds.
    orb change gives me more flexibility, like that. Healing springs nerf is acceptable if mechanics/bosses get also adjusted. With the next patch some raw aoe healing encouters will not be possible anymore. Or god damn hard and they should be do able by a casual grp not only for pro grps. (vso ozara and serpent as troll sound awful without springstacking.... And thats old "easy" vet content )
  • Huyen
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    Lisutaris wrote: »
    I am at 8-14k dps single target right now. With 2 supp sets and buff/heal rotation. Dps depends on grp and if i dont have to heal every inc aoe for my dds.
    orb change gives me more flexibility, like that. Healing springs nerf is acceptable if mechanics/bosses get also adjusted. With the next patch some raw aoe healing encouters will not be possible anymore. Or god damn hard and they should be do able by a casual grp not only for pro grps. (vso ozara and serpent as troll sound awful without springstacking.... And thats old "easy" vet content )

    If boss mechanics are adjusted, wich isnt the case. Healing changes like this are crap across the board (except the orb change altho for soke trials that suck too).
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  • KerinKor
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    i have yet to find a healer who can keep me up when they are dd more

    Sorry you do such a poor job staying out of red circles and other aoe. Maybe play smarter?

    LOL .. true dat!
  • max_only
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    Wait what? What healer has had NO dps skills what so ever? Lightning blockade damages, shards damage, Retribution damages, once I can log in to my main healer I’ll find some more. What game are y’all playing?
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  • ArchMikem
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    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    Sorry new to the game... Why wouldn't a healer do some dps or buffing?

    You dont expect a Tank to do damage, nor do you expect a DD to heal the group. Why should the Healer be expected to do two jobs?

    Buffing and Healing fall under the same umbrella.
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  • BlueRaven
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    One bar for healing

    and one bar for dpsing when there is no healing to be done.

    Great. That's how i played anyway.

    Also, and end of the endless orbs which blind me while playing as a tank. Literally people would spam them and i could not see to block because of my screen being awash in yellow orb glow.

    Thank you Zos for fixing that.


    Everything works now exactly as i have always chosen to play and i dont have to make excuses for why i dont have two healing bars when it was already (pre 23 patch) entirely redundant.

    <3<3<3

    I couldn't stand the orb spam when I tanked either. Drove me nuts and often made me miss blocks as well.

    See I'm not the only one! Try blocking in vet Cradle of Shadows when the healer spams those orbs and you are dead because you cant time the block.

    Those mean healers, sending out buffs to help the rest of the group, how inconsiderate!

    The problem with healers is that they heal the group and send out buffs, luckily both of those “problems” will be addressed this patch!

    (This is all sarcasm by the way, in case there was not apparent.)
  • Taleof2Cities
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    One bar for healing

    and one bar for dpsing when there is no healing to be done.

    Great. That's how i played anyway.

    Also, and end of the endless orbs which blind me while playing as a tank. Literally people would spam them and i could not see to block because of my screen being awash in yellow orb glow.

    Thank you Zos for fixing that.


    Everything works now exactly as i have always chosen to play and i dont have to make excuses for why i dont have two healing bars when it was already (pre 23 patch) entirely redundant.

    <3<3<3

    I couldn't stand the orb spam when I tanked either. Drove me nuts and often made me miss blocks as well.

    See I'm not the only one! Try blocking in vet Cradle of Shadows when the healer spams those orbs and you are dead because you cant time the block.

    Those mean healers, sending out buffs to help the rest of the group, how inconsiderate!

    The problem with healers is that they heal the group and send out buffs, luckily both of those “problems” will be addressed this patch!

    (This is all sarcasm by the way, in case there was not apparent.)

    Best not to feed the troll, please ... ;)
  • Lisutaris
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Nanfoodle wrote: »
    Sorry new to the game... Why wouldn't a healer do some dps or buffing?

    You dont expect a Tank to do damage, nor do you expect a DD to heal the group. Why should the Healer be expected to do two jobs?

    Buffing and Healing fall under the same umbrella.

    sry but that's just being angry and false information!

    Let's talk about this in PoV-Templar:
    Shards -> Buffs your grp (tank) in terms of ressources AND does a good amount of AoE dmg!
    Blockade -> Debuffs your enemy with your glyph (for example infused crusher) AND does a good amount of AoE dmg!
    Power of the Light -> Creates an AoE heal area AND does a good amount of single dmg!
    LA weaving/animation canc. -> why won't you do that as a healer as well ? there are only benefits.


    > will grant you 10-15k dps AND support your grp/tank even more. More dmg -> less bossfight-time -> also a way to support to grp... and you don't use these skills to do dmg, but to support them in the first place. *shrug*
    I am thinking you are playing a diff. game than me :wink: as a healer.
    Edited by Lisutaris on August 10, 2019 11:18PM
  • kargen27
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    One bar for healing

    and one bar for dpsing when there is no healing to be done.

    Great. That's how i played anyway.

    Also, and end of the endless orbs which blind me while playing as a tank. Literally people would spam them and i could not see to block because of my screen being awash in yellow orb glow.

    Thank you Zos for fixing that.


    Everything works now exactly as i have always chosen to play and i dont have to make excuses for why i dont have two healing bars when it was already (pre 23 patch) entirely redundant.

    <3<3<3

    I couldn't stand the orb spam when I tanked either. Drove me nuts and often made me miss blocks as well.

    That is the groups fault not the healers fault. First orb they should let through for the tank then the group should pop the rest of them. If the healer is tossing out twenty of them then yeah that might be a few too many.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    One bar for healing

    and one bar for dpsing when there is no healing to be done.

    Great. That's how i played anyway.

    Also, and end of the endless orbs which blind me while playing as a tank. Literally people would spam them and i could not see to block because of my screen being awash in yellow orb glow.

    Thank you Zos for fixing that.


    Everything works now exactly as i have always chosen to play and i dont have to make excuses for why i dont have two healing bars when it was already (pre 23 patch) entirely redundant.

    <3<3<3

    I couldn't stand the orb spam when I tanked either. Drove me nuts and often made me miss blocks as well.

    That is the groups fault not the healers fault. First orb they should let through for the tank then the group should pop the rest of them. If the healer is tossing out twenty of them then yeah that might be a few too many.

    It's too many when i cant see to block... however many that is. In vet cradle of shadows i finally told the healer to stop. I used self healing and we made it through that boss very next try as i could finally see what i was doing.
  • max_only
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    Oh wait a second did I get pulled in by the silver leash of the same person who wants to get rid of all pulls?

    I regret my life choices.
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  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    max_only wrote: »
    Oh wait a second did I get pulled in by the silver leash of the same person who wants to get rid of all pulls?

    I regret my life choices.

    wrong thread. please stay on topic and remember:

    Yesterday is History and Tomorrow is a Mystery but TODAY is a gift and that is why it is called THE PRESENT!
    Edited by Hazurko_RaShan on August 11, 2019 2:47AM
  • Aznarb
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    kargen27 wrote: »
    Jeremy wrote: »
    One bar for healing

    and one bar for dpsing when there is no healing to be done.

    Great. That's how i played anyway.

    Also, and end of the endless orbs which blind me while playing as a tank. Literally people would spam them and i could not see to block because of my screen being awash in yellow orb glow.

    Thank you Zos for fixing that.


    Everything works now exactly as i have always chosen to play and i dont have to make excuses for why i dont have two healing bars when it was already (pre 23 patch) entirely redundant.

    <3<3<3

    I couldn't stand the orb spam when I tanked either. Drove me nuts and often made me miss blocks as well.

    That is the groups fault not the healers fault. First orb they should let through for the tank then the group should pop the rest of them. If the healer is tossing out twenty of them then yeah that might be a few too many.

    It's too many when i cant see to block... however many that is. In vet cradle of shadows i finally told the healer to stop. I used self healing and we made it through that boss very next try as i could finally see what i was doing.

    TBH most magicka DPS gonna use the mystic one in their rota after the patch, so you'll have orb on you way more often x)

    Overall I agree, change are good, we've more time to keep buff up and dps a bit (4man content)
    And yes, If a heal don't do some dmg in 4man DG it's a wast. We've plenty of time to put some DoT/Ground dmg, no need to spam or stop healing/buffing for that.

    On raid, same, the healing is nice especially with the new muta (3/healer)
    Only vSS seem to be a problem but they'll probably adjust something later if they see ppl can't adapt.

    Since some ppl seem a bit aggressive here : It's just my point doesn't matter if you agree or not.
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