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BombBlade

Unfadingsilence
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Just been enjoying my BombBlade these last few days and I'm so ready for the change to proxy coming soon and just made a fast video but time to get back to work enjoy

  • Vortigaunt
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    God I love the return of bombers and bombing videos. A part of eso I truly missed and literally the only thing I’m looking forward to in this *** patch...
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    God I love the return of bombers and bombing videos. A part of eso I truly missed and literally the only thing I’m looking forward to in this *** patch...

    As well after getting my latest 5 star on my stam NB I'm now going to focus all my time on my bomber
  • Iskiab
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    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    Condemned and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    You can block most of the damage from inevitable det since you will be able to see it and you wont see proxy until it's to late 😉
  • InvictusApollo
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    Could you please list them? I haven't analysed patch notes thinking about bomblade.
  • Iskiab
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    Could you please list them? I haven't analysed patch notes thinking about bomblade.

    I don’t have a comprehensive list, but some things stood out and got me thinking:

    - target limit removed for aoes including det
    - onslaught being a 100% mitigation bypass

    I was thinking:
    - vicious death plus x set (likely balorgs monster)
    - use reaping mark first for a 25% damage buff when you kill a target

    Buff - reaper’s mark - hit lotus fan - onslaught - Boom prox det against a target with 0 resistances which should be a kill - start the vicious death chain reaction with 25% boosted damage...

    Something like that, when I tried bombing I wasn’t very good at it because I’m impatient, it’s not my specialty. I’m more likely to try inevitable det with the same thinking safely from range, and try something cheesy like using onslaught on a pet to see it I can get the pen buff an easy way.
    Edited by Iskiab on July 31, 2019 1:13AM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    Condemned and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Arkangeloski
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    Just been enjoying my BombBlade these last few days and I'm so ready for the change to proxy coming soon and just made a fast video but time to get back to work enjoy


    Good to see you my friend, great video! U got rid of your stamblade? Anyway I heard the news about the aoe changes and I might come back with my old mag blade B) you just convince me lol. Hit me up sometime.
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Just been enjoying my BombBlade these last few days and I'm so ready for the change to proxy coming soon and just made a fast video but time to get back to work enjoy


    Good to see you my friend, great video! U got rid of your stamblade? Anyway I heard the news about the aoe changes and I might come back with my old mag blade B) you just convince me lol. Hit me up sometime.

    Here are a few test from 3 wonderful sets to go with VD

  • Unfadingsilence
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    Just been enjoying my BombBlade these last few days and I'm so ready for the change to proxy coming soon and just made a fast video but time to get back to work enjoy


    Good to see you my friend, great video! U got rid of your stamblade? Anyway I heard the news about the aoe changes and I might come back with my old mag blade B) you just convince me lol. Hit me up sometime.

    And no I finally hit 5 stars on my stam NB it makes it my second 5 star rank and now I'll be going all out with my BombBlade
  • Kel
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    I bought a set of VD awhile back, but never really got into bombing.

    But......with the changes coming in Scalebreaker, I might have to give it a go.
    Seems like it's gonna be fun as hell.
  • InvictusApollo
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    Could you please list them? I haven't analysed patch notes thinking about bomblade.

    I don’t have a comprehensive list, but some things stood out and got me thinking:

    - target limit removed for aoes including det
    - onslaught being a 100% mitigation bypass

    I was thinking:
    - vicious death plus x set (likely balorgs monster)
    - use reaping mark first for a 25% damage buff when you kill a target

    Buff - reaper’s mark - hit lotus fan - onslaught - Boom prox det against a target with 0 resistances which should be a kill - start the vicious death chain reaction with 25% boosted damage...

    Something like that, when I tried bombing I wasn’t very good at it because I’m impatient, it’s not my specialty. I’m more likely to try inevitable det with the same thinking safely from range, and try something cheesy like using onslaught on a pet to see it I can get the pen buff an easy way.

    Hmmm. One Vicious Death proc won't be able to start a chain reaction so Onlslaught wont' be the ultimate to start it. Bomblades use Soul Tether to initiate the wipe. More people have to get damaged to actually die from the first Vicious Death proc.
    As for Onslaught it was allways going through resistances which made it a viable gank ultimate together with Balorgh. That is nothing new.
    As for the Reaping Mark it wasn't usually used because it would alert a good group.


    Only the removal of target limit from aoe abilities will be a buff to bomblades and other bombers. It will make it more likely to start a chain reaction. But not much. Zerggroups are almost allways almost full of players with low resitances so hitting several of them at once isn't so rare. This is just a slight buff that will prevent freaky accidents when aoe burst hits only tanks.
  • Rianai
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    Aoe caps have been removed for quite a while. The only new thing next patch will the removal of the dmg cap on Detonation, which means it will hit harder when hitting more than 10 targets. But often zergs are not stacked tight enough, so there won't be that many opportunities to take advantage of that buff. That's also a reason, why i don't think Onslaught will be the ult to go - radius is too small.
    Getting back access to Minor Berserk will also help a bit, so Bombblade will definitely be better than now, but i do think, some players overestimate the impact of those buffs.
    Edited by Rianai on August 1, 2019 12:03AM
  • Iskiab
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    Could you please list them? I haven't analysed patch notes thinking about bomblade.

    I don’t have a comprehensive list, but some things stood out and got me thinking:

    - target limit removed for aoes including det
    - onslaught being a 100% mitigation bypass

    I was thinking:
    - vicious death plus x set (likely balorgs monster)
    - use reaping mark first for a 25% damage buff when you kill a target

    Buff - reaper’s mark - hit lotus fan - onslaught - Boom prox det against a target with 0 resistances which should be a kill - start the vicious death chain reaction with 25% boosted damage...

    Something like that, when I tried bombing I wasn’t very good at it because I’m impatient, it’s not my specialty. I’m more likely to try inevitable det with the same thinking safely from range, and try something cheesy like using onslaught on a pet to see it I can get the pen buff an easy way.

    Hmmm. One Vicious Death proc won't be able to start a chain reaction so Onlslaught wont' be the ultimate to start it. Bomblades use Soul Tether to initiate the wipe. More people have to get damaged to actually die from the first Vicious Death proc.
    As for Onslaught it was allways going through resistances which made it a viable gank ultimate together with Balorgh. That is nothing new.
    As for the Reaping Mark it wasn't usually used because it would alert a good group.


    Only the removal of target limit from aoe abilities will be a buff to bomblades and other bombers. It will make it more likely to start a chain reaction. But not much. Zerggroups are almost allways almost full of players with low resitances so hitting several of them at once isn't so rare. This is just a slight buff that will prevent freaky accidents when aoe burst hits only tanks.

    Maybe, but your average pvp build is usually at about 70% mitigation or so, with no resistance they’ll be down to the base 50% mitigation. There’s a reason bombers go for unbuffed targets.

    Onslaught’s also becoming a small aoe. Only 5m radius, but that’s the same radius as vicious death. In one sense it’s nice to have the aoe damage and stun from soul tether, in another sense if you can combine onslaught with prox det you’re getting a 40% damage buff on prox det against a fully buffed target.

    Myself I’m liking inevitable Det more then prox. A 1 second cast time makes a huge difference, and I like the potential burst since it’s a delayed damage ability.

    Edited by Iskiab on August 1, 2019 2:21AM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    Condemned and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Unfadingsilence
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    Rianai wrote: »
    Aoe caps have been removed for quite a while. The only new thing next patch will the removal of the dmg cap on Detonation, which means it will hit harder when hitting more than 10 targets. But often zergs are not stacked tight enough, so there won't be that many opportunities to take advantage of that buff. That's also a reason, why i don't think Onslaught will be the ult to go - radius is too small.
    Getting back access to Minor Berserk will also help a bit, so Bombblade will definitely be better than now, but i do think, some players overestimate the impact of those buffs.

    Bombing xbox NA and PC NA will be alot better since alot of the potato zerglings definitely stack hard especially if they are fixing doors after taking a keep or trying to travel outside of keeps there have been many times I've bombed 30+ groups so I'll definitely be looking forward to the removal of the cap on proxy
  • kaithuzar
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    All you have to kill is 1 person with onslaught to proc VD, maybe use decisive weapon and you’ll probably have enough ult regen to proc another ult
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    Legend - Siffer fan boy club
    TKO (tamriel knight's order) - free bks
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    WKB (we kill bosses) - turd where you go?
    Arcance Council - Klytz Kommander
    World Boss - Mike & Chewy gone EP
    M12 (majestic twelve) - cult of the loli zerg
  • Vortigaunt
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    Could you please list them? I haven't analysed patch notes thinking about bomblade.

    I don’t have a comprehensive list, but some things stood out and got me thinking:

    - target limit removed for aoes including det
    - onslaught being a 100% mitigation bypass

    I was thinking:
    - vicious death plus x set (likely balorgs monster)
    - use reaping mark first for a 25% damage buff when you kill a target

    Buff - reaper’s mark - hit lotus fan - onslaught - Boom prox det against a target with 0 resistances which should be a kill - start the vicious death chain reaction with 25% boosted damage...

    Something like that, when I tried bombing I wasn’t very good at it because I’m impatient, it’s not my specialty. I’m more likely to try inevitable det with the same thinking safely from range, and try something cheesy like using onslaught on a pet to see it I can get the pen buff an easy way.

    The idea with proxi det is to start the burst as det is about to go off. If you cast inevitable det on someone you make them aware that you’re about to bomb for like 5 seconds.

    Have you ever actually played a bomber
  • Iskiab
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    Could you please list them? I haven't analysed patch notes thinking about bomblade.

    I don’t have a comprehensive list, but some things stood out and got me thinking:

    - target limit removed for aoes including det
    - onslaught being a 100% mitigation bypass

    I was thinking:
    - vicious death plus x set (likely balorgs monster)
    - use reaping mark first for a 25% damage buff when you kill a target

    Buff - reaper’s mark - hit lotus fan - onslaught - Boom prox det against a target with 0 resistances which should be a kill - start the vicious death chain reaction with 25% boosted damage...

    Something like that, when I tried bombing I wasn’t very good at it because I’m impatient, it’s not my specialty. I’m more likely to try inevitable det with the same thinking safely from range, and try something cheesy like using onslaught on a pet to see it I can get the pen buff an easy way.

    The idea with proxi det is to start the burst as det is about to go off. If you cast inevitable det on someone you make them aware that you’re about to bomb for like 5 seconds.

    Have you ever actually played a bomber

    Yes, my point about inevitable det is instead of copy/pasting a build and being a one trick pony, the inevitable det change will mean there will be different style bombing builds.
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    Condemned and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • jaws343
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    I am definitely bringing my bomber back this patch. Especially for the upcoming Imperial City event. I actually don't think I am changing anything, Spinner's, VD, and Balorgh with proxy and Tether.

    The changes to inevitable are good, but it provides too much of a warning for a successful bomb. What inevitable will be good for next patch is disrupting large groups from range. I plan on using it on a warden DOT build.
  • Vortigaunt
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    Could you please list them? I haven't analysed patch notes thinking about bomblade.

    I don’t have a comprehensive list, but some things stood out and got me thinking:

    - target limit removed for aoes including det
    - onslaught being a 100% mitigation bypass

    I was thinking:
    - vicious death plus x set (likely balorgs monster)
    - use reaping mark first for a 25% damage buff when you kill a target

    Buff - reaper’s mark - hit lotus fan - onslaught - Boom prox det against a target with 0 resistances which should be a kill - start the vicious death chain reaction with 25% boosted damage...

    Something like that, when I tried bombing I wasn’t very good at it because I’m impatient, it’s not my specialty. I’m more likely to try inevitable det with the same thinking safely from range, and try something cheesy like using onslaught on a pet to see it I can get the pen buff an easy way.

    The idea with proxi det is to start the burst as det is about to go off. If you cast inevitable det on someone you make them aware that you’re about to bomb for like 5 seconds.

    Have you ever actually played a bomber

    Yes, my point about inevitable det is instead of copy/pasting a build and being a one trick pony, the inevitable det change will mean there will be different style bombing builds.

    There isn’t a thing such as a “different style bomber” lmfao. It either works or it doesn’t. Proxi alone doesn’t have enough power to trigger a chain VD proc, and with 2h ult you will get a proc 2 tops, even if you ignore resists. Not to mention you’d have to pick out your targets before bombing, then going in and having to pray the enemy doesn’t react for 5 seconds until the very big red circle under them explodes. And even if that works, you’d be missing out on 2% more aoe damage because 2h is less damage than lightning destro or less pen than dw.

    There’s a reason why people use the same builds. It’s because it works. Now how you use those builds is a different thing altogether. Every single bomb video I’ve seen lately misses out on huge chunks of damage lol.
  • Iskiab
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    Could you please list them? I haven't analysed patch notes thinking about bomblade.

    I don’t have a comprehensive list, but some things stood out and got me thinking:

    - target limit removed for aoes including det
    - onslaught being a 100% mitigation bypass

    I was thinking:
    - vicious death plus x set (likely balorgs monster)
    - use reaping mark first for a 25% damage buff when you kill a target

    Buff - reaper’s mark - hit lotus fan - onslaught - Boom prox det against a target with 0 resistances which should be a kill - start the vicious death chain reaction with 25% boosted damage...

    Something like that, when I tried bombing I wasn’t very good at it because I’m impatient, it’s not my specialty. I’m more likely to try inevitable det with the same thinking safely from range, and try something cheesy like using onslaught on a pet to see it I can get the pen buff an easy way.

    The idea with proxi det is to start the burst as det is about to go off. If you cast inevitable det on someone you make them aware that you’re about to bomb for like 5 seconds.

    Have you ever actually played a bomber

    Yes, my point about inevitable det is instead of copy/pasting a build and being a one trick pony, the inevitable det change will mean there will be different style bombing builds.

    There isn’t a thing such as a “different style bomber” lmfao. It either works or it doesn’t. Proxi alone doesn’t have enough power to trigger a chain VD proc, and with 2h ult you will get a proc 2 tops, even if you ignore resists. Not to mention you’d have to pick out your targets before bombing, then going in and having to pray the enemy doesn’t react for 5 seconds until the very big red circle under them explodes. And even if that works, you’d be missing out on 2% more aoe damage because 2h is less damage than lightning destro or less pen than dw.

    There’s a reason why people use the same builds. It’s because it works. Now how you use those builds is a different thing altogether. Every single bomb video I’ve seen lately misses out on huge chunks of damage lol.

    Let me guess, you just started playing less then a year ago and think there are set builds that work and will continue working.

    I’m not going to teach you how to play, but if there’s one thing you need to learn about ESO is get used to change.

    You’re just lucky someone was nice enough to show a video in the first place to show how it’s done.
    Edited by Iskiab on August 1, 2019 2:25PM
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    Condemned and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • kaithuzar
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    Most builds I have seen have stuck with soul tether for the initial stun followed by proxy det directly after & that is “supposed” to be enough damage to kill 1 person & proc vd

    Nowadays everyone has 25k+ health & some people have moved to Destro ult but people easily scatter when they see this.
    A sorc with invis pots would likely be better at Destro bombing than a nb
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    Just Chill - Crown's house
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    Legend - Siffer fan boy club
    TKO (tamriel knight's order) - free bks
    Deviance - Leonard's senche tiger
    Purple - hamNchz is my hero
    Eight Divines - myrlifax stop playing final fantasy
    WKB (we kill bosses) - turd where you go?
    Arcance Council - Klytz Kommander
    World Boss - Mike & Chewy gone EP
    M12 (majestic twelve) - cult of the loli zerg
  • InvictusApollo
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Idk if you need proxy det with the cast time reduced on inevitable det.

    Bombers are getting a large buff, post patch they’ll be awesome.

    Could you please list them? I haven't analysed patch notes thinking about bomblade.

    I don’t have a comprehensive list, but some things stood out and got me thinking:

    - target limit removed for aoes including det
    - onslaught being a 100% mitigation bypass

    I was thinking:
    - vicious death plus x set (likely balorgs monster)
    - use reaping mark first for a 25% damage buff when you kill a target

    Buff - reaper’s mark - hit lotus fan - onslaught - Boom prox det against a target with 0 resistances which should be a kill - start the vicious death chain reaction with 25% boosted damage...

    Something like that, when I tried bombing I wasn’t very good at it because I’m impatient, it’s not my specialty. I’m more likely to try inevitable det with the same thinking safely from range, and try something cheesy like using onslaught on a pet to see it I can get the pen buff an easy way.

    The idea with proxi det is to start the burst as det is about to go off. If you cast inevitable det on someone you make them aware that you’re about to bomb for like 5 seconds.

    Have you ever actually played a bomber

    Yes, my point about inevitable det is instead of copy/pasting a build and being a one trick pony, the inevitable det change will mean there will be different style bombing builds.

    I would have to theorycraft some prototype builds and compare them to standard bomblade to prove it, but I think you are right. Even if we don't get super effective bomb builds for other classes, then at least we will get some builds for countering zerg or maybe even ballgroups.
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