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I give up (skills just don't activate)

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It is late afternoon in Cyro. I don't feel lag. Ping is fine. I attacked this group of 4 before. Now they are on to me. When I attack again, they focus me. Fine. No matter. A dodge roll. Then run a little and activate the shield. And activate the shield. And activate the shield? Dead.

We got FTC combat log for cases like this. Sometimes the shield is consumed so quickly, you don't even see it activating. Nay. Combat log shows shield never activated. Instead it shows a templar used Toppling Charge on me. Here's the funny thing: I never saw that. As far as I was concerned, my character kept running. I use Immovability potions as well as Escapist Poison, so this wouldn't be unusual in and of itself.

This game has problems, man, and they run deep, so deep. Normally we complain about stuff like this - some kind of CC desync, perhaps - in high population, high lag situations. This was in the middle of nowhere, between Winter's Peak and Bruma. No Negate bubble, no Incap, by the way, and I was not sprinting.
PC EU, Stamina DK (EP), Magicka NB (EP), Magicka Warden (EP), Magicka Templar (EP). Occasionally: Stamina Templar (EP), Stamina NB (AD), Stamina Sorcerer (DC)
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    Like this? there should have been blastbones where the circles are. But instead it isnt because the skill did not fire
  • Adernath
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    Believe me you are not alone with this. For me it happens regularly if several players are on me. Often I get full damage even in dodge windows.
  • Starlight_Knight
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    Its not just you - in pvp its dam annoying, that's why so many players zerg and play tank block builds because playing solo especially on a high skill cap build ... well yea, Not good.
    But like i've always said, performance will be the death of ESO.
    #magwardensarepeopleto
  • baronzilch
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    It's been much worse this past year. I don't understand the philosophy behind the all the proc sets. They are continually upping the complexity and, on paper, some might seem neat.

    Stacking sets, multiple triggers, that's a whole lot of extra calculations the server has to process. And many sets have such common triggers, I have to wonder why is there a trigger at all? That's just using up server resources for no reason and a lot of sets with common triggers could be aggregated to static sets based on their average uptimes and current values.

    (Procs can add variety and 'spice' to a game, but, they should be used in moderation. ZOS seem to mainline procs, though. It may be a serious proc addiction problem and I worry for them ;) )

    Then there are the animations. Geez, does everything have to be extra glowy and sparkly and big? The necro stuff was way over the top. Is all that really necessary? Coupled with the server lag you also add unnecessary load to everyone's GPUs and gameplay-wise there is no reason for it. Animations could be a lot more efficient.

    It's interesting that ZOS is now considering gutting some of the actual gameplay (like no more tearing down towers apparently, not a huge loss, but I can't believe that is a core problem) in order to alleviate the server overload created by the stuff that is supposed to be only cosmetic and auxiliary to the gameplay. That's backwards thinking and a pretty bad sign for things to come.

    Personally, I would gladly give up some of the razzle dazzle and set variety for smooth performance. Am I alone in this?

  • NuarBlack
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    Was happening even in BGs to me the other night as well. After the mess that necro was I could honestly be happy if we never saw another new class and they just focused on fixing the current issues.
  • WacArnold
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    Same with trying to break free of a stun and switching weps, been a little laggy
    Xbox One - North American - Ebonheart Pact
    Anti-Pop Lv 50 Magicka Nightblade Dark Elf
    WacArnold Lv 50 Magicka Templar Argonian
  • Durham
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    baronzilch wrote: »
    It's been much worse this past year. I don't understand the philosophy behind the all the proc sets. They are continually upping the complexity and, on paper, some might seem neat.

    Stacking sets, multiple triggers, that's a whole lot of extra calculations the server has to process. And many sets have such common triggers, I have to wonder why is there a trigger at all? That's just using up server resources for no reason and a lot of sets with common triggers could be aggregated to static sets based on their average uptimes and current values.

    (Procs can add variety and 'spice' to a game, but, they should be used in moderation. ZOS seem to mainline procs, though. It may be a serious proc addiction problem and I worry for them ;) )

    Then there are the animations. Geez, does everything have to be extra glowy and sparkly and big? The necro stuff was way over the top. Is all that really necessary? Coupled with the server lag you also add unnecessary load to everyone's GPUs and gameplay-wise there is no reason for it. Animations could be a lot more efficient.

    It's interesting that ZOS is now considering gutting some of the actual gameplay (like no more tearing down towers apparently, not a huge loss, but I can't believe that is a core problem) in order to alleviate the server overload created by the stuff that is supposed to be only cosmetic and auxiliary to the gameplay. That's backwards thinking and a pretty bad sign for things to come.

    Personally, I would gladly give up some of the razzle dazzle and set variety for smooth performance. Am I alone in this?

    I see what your saying however the cause of the lag is Stacking (Ball Groups) before 6pm there are minimal ball groups running, pop is capped. Lag is ok in a large battle. As soon as one of these 24 man groups show up spaming thier crap some of these guys never hit more then 2 buttons, your latency shoots through the roof.
    PVP DEADWAIT
    PVE Eternal Destiny
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    You just have to be ready to press the button until it works:

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    You can put any vehicle you want on the racetrack that is ESO, just don't blame anybody but yourself if your VW bus gets passed by a Ferrari.
  • vokage89
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    Yup..lag is Trash confirmed...
  • GhostofDatthaw
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    Have you tried checking your Internet connection? It could be a problem with your isp


    xD
  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    Like this? there should have been blastbones where the circles are. But instead it isnt because the skill did not fire

    BB is just so bugged.
  • Dojohoda
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    I've been getting the sprint bug again. :(
    Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
  • Insco851
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    Shade is a mandatory double cast rn on Xbox na. Shields are hit and miss. I had a weird window yesterday against a magsorc where literally NOTHING would cast. Hots weren’t ticking.. it was.... bad.

    Game is impossible right now solo. Just doesn’t work.

    Oh and here comes a dizzy -hold block- still go flying? Uhhh okay.

    Oh oh one more... animation desynced LA weaves which throws off kill combos cuz the la is +500ms away.
    Edited by Insco851 on July 23, 2019 6:33PM
  • olsborg
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    Yea. Desyncs, lagg, buggs. Those are the 3 major things you experience in pvp. Like way further down the list comes fun😟

    Everyday we, my friends and I, log out at the late evening because lagg takes over...in frustration. But I guess jokes on us because why dont we just quit? 🥴
    Altmer Sorceror, magicka
    Bosmer Nightblade, stamina.
    Imperial Templar, stamina
    Redguard Warden, stamina

    Aldmeri Dominion!
    PC EU
    PvP only
  • Theignson
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    Yes, the game is often unplayable in PvP combat.

    Several of the worst things in PvP:
    1) can't switch bars in combat. My build requires me to switch bars, or I'm dead.
    2) Try to dodge roll and my character just abruptly moves forward a foot or so then stops.
    3) Ultimates won't fire. They just won't. Mash the button again and again , nothing happens. Particularly bad for my stam DK who needs the Battle roar passive.
    4) Immovable pots that don't work. Use a pot and immediately get cc'ed
    5) Break free that doesn't work. Particularly bad with fear.
    6) No cc immunity. Get cc'ed, break free, immediately cc'ed again.

  • Sureshawt
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    Theignson wrote: »
    Yes, the game is often unplayable in PvP combat.

    Several of the worst things in PvP:
    1) can't switch bars in combat. My build requires me to switch bars, or I'm dead.
    2) Try to dodge roll and my character just abruptly moves forward a foot or so then stops.
    3) Ultimates won't fire. They just won't. Mash the button again and again , nothing happens. Particularly bad for my stam DK who needs the Battle roar passive.
    4) Immovable pots that don't work. Use a pot and immediately get cc'ed
    5) Break free that doesn't work. Particularly bad with fear.
    6) No cc immunity. Get cc'ed, break free, immediately cc'ed again.

    Yea....I experience all of these things. It's particularly annoying because all of these mechanics, with the exception of active dodge roll, have been around in other MMOs for decades and functioned without these problems.

    It really is strange and disturbing for a newer MMO to experience such horrible issues with mechanics that are basic and common to the genre. Hell they can't even get combat flagging to work properly.



  • Willard
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    It is a l2p issue! As in: learn to play some other game and don't bother yourself with this bugfest called ESO.

    Just started playing FFXIV (PS4) online and I am amazed at how smooth the game runs. Why can't ESO run as it does!!
  • almightyalfo
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    Lads, we all are talking to the walls apparently. Nothing is going to be changed, not a single thing. Well, except maybe adding some more crown crates, crown store exclusive motifs etc. cause this is not a game, this is business for them, they wanna milk as much dosh as they can before this dies. I'm really a huge fan of ESO, I truly am, but so far, they're doing the total opposite of what we really want, and as a result, my loyalty and will to play and PAY for this game really narrowed down to the level where I have to complain, like you all, on the forums, knowing in advance, that not a single soul from ZOS is going to reply in this thread, except maybe a moderator, kindly reminding us about their lousy terms of service and what not.

    As one guy mentioned, I really don't care about effects, glowy and shiny stuff, I really want a stable a concrete performance and stability.

    My 6 month ESO+ subscription ends on 7th of September, guess who's NOT gonna pay another 60 euros for another 6 months of it. :)
    Edited by almightyalfo on July 25, 2019 9:49PM
    PC-EU
    Daggerfall Covenant only
    Main PVE Character: Aeriel Nightvale (Bosmer StamDK) - "Stormproof"
    Main PVP Character: Burgdul gro-Burek (Orc StamDK) - "Lieutenant" (AR 17)

    Founder of Sanctus Exerticus
    Member of "Arenthian Trading Guild" & "Band of Daggers"

    Proud un-subscriber to ESO Plus
  • jadarock
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    coletas wrote: »
    nothing works. Nothing. Maybe if everybody stop paying the scammers...

    +1
    The game is considered an rpg so apparently all that matters is that you can still play dress up with friends . ..smh
  • a1i3nz
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    Sitting here reading this and my game crashed

    Eso
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Hey, did anyone see that dope music box in the crown store?
  • Starlight_Knight
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    No wonder everyone runs round holding block and spamming shields. The game is WAY to laggy to try and play a solo build.
    ATM in EU CP there is a DC zerg on and its ruining performance. Its not there fault if thats how they wana play, but god.. i just want at leased 50% of my inputs to work, right now its maybe 20%
    Playing a solo stam blade i'm seriously hindered by this lag.
    #magwardensarepeopleto
  • Marcus684
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    I logged on for an hour or so a little before NA primetime, and could absolutely see how lag increased as soon as people reported that the AD faction stack had formed and was hitting Roe. Please note that I’m not intending to single out AD for this. Every alliance zergs, and I’ve seen all 3 faction stack at times. What’s obvious to me is that ZOS’ equipment just can’t handle the load that results from these giant zergs and the opposing zerg that forms to try to fight them. Until ZOS addresses this, don’t expect things to improve.
  • coletas
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    The good part with all that lag is that you sometimes can put oils over a ballista lol
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