Maelstrom Arena QoL Suggestion

berzerkdethb14_ESO1

I've done the Maelstrom Arena more times than I'd like to admit, and I've yet to receive a fire destruction staff.

Wouldn't it be kind of nice to get a token every time you complete it that allows you to buy the weapons out right after you acquired a certain amount of tokens? Say, five or ten?

I'm not suggesting that they drop from normal or become easier, but just a little bad luck protection. I've literally done the maelstrom arena upwards of fourty or more times, and it's just getting boring now.

Austinseph1

Coming soon to a crown store near you XD... but really there is no real reason for somebody to have to slog through 40+ runs and still not have a weapon. A better design exists but it’s up to them to decide if its a reasonable grind.

mairwen85

berzerkdethb14_ESO1 wrote: »

I've done the Maelstrom Arena more times than I'd like to admit, and I've yet to receive a fire destruction staff.

Wouldn't it be kind of nice to get a token every time you complete it that allows you to buy the weapons out right after you acquired a certain amount of tokens? Say, five or ten?

I'm not suggesting that they drop from normal or become easier, but just a little bad luck protection. I've literally done the maelstrom arena upwards of fourty or more times, and it's just getting boring now.

I do it weekly on xbox, have done for 2 years, only had it drop once in all that time. Since starting again on PC in April, been doing it weekly from hitting CP300... Not one drop yet. I am swimming in restos, bows, and lightning staves though

I would support a token system that would allow you to accumulate in order to combat bad luck, but not another rng solution to a rng problem. There are some that will argue statistically you should have got the weapon of choice at least 1x per 35-40 runs... It doesn't fit with my experience on 2 accounts, but the math is sound. That's the thing, numbers don't lie, unless they do

But I digress, I agree on a non tradable token system with vendor. Eg 1 token per run, 30 tokens per weapon.

Vildebill

With the new undaunted shoulder system it seems like someone at ZOS are actually thinking in the right direction. Lets hope a similar system comes to Maelstrom arena as well.

blkjag

I hope this never happens

Welkynar

Yes please. 5 tokens for one handed and 10 tokens for 2H, bows, and staves. It wouldn’t affect me anymore but other people need it. I did it nonstop for several days to get the vMA inferno staff. But for some reason, I got the dual wield, restoration staff, and ice staff SO MANY TIMES. In the end I only have 1 vMA lightning staff, 1 vMA inferno staff, and 2 vMA bows. vMA broke me (and my fingers!) and I will never return... EVER. I’ve memorized every single spawn, mechanic, voice lines... I could do a vMA run in my head!

cyberjanet

Every time I go to VMA they've nerfed some skill I was using so I'll never get through.

Milchbart

Wait for the Orsinium event.
You receive 2 vma weapons from one run.

ATomiX69

40 runs and no inferno smells like bs.
At least you just need to drop 1 inferno in any trait and youre set forever.
Imagine how it was before trait changing and when you had 500 CP to distribute less.

Friend of mine kept track of his vma drops, by the time he did 40 runs he got every weapon-type at least twice.



Dont wanna embed the first 40 drops as it would be a long list, but if youre interested here you go: https://i.imgur.com/ZMW6tzh.png

Everyone that claims that they did more than 50 runs and didnt get an inferno is most likely just bullsh!tting and probably never did more than 10 runs to begin with.
Especially if you take into consideration that weeklies are a thing and they give you an extra reward.

danara

Done it 96 times for my first drop of the fire staff,
One friend Done it more than 250 times :')

I guess some account has a luck parameter because sometimes i prefer to do one run with one friend and have my all set by the end of the run...

blnchk

Keeping MMO players hooked by introducing merciless, RNG-based grinds is a tired, asinine strategy. It needs to die. So yes, I'm all for a token system. Especially since you'd still have to run the content multiple times. Getting what you want would still take effort.

SaucyMcSauceface

Do it on a stam class. My Stam toons usually get Mag weapons and my Mag toons get Stam weapons.

Skinzz

I call bs. I ran it around 350-400 times and received at least 50 destro staves. Lol. Getting on the leaderboards with multiple characters increases the odds too.

kylewwefan

I certainly don’t need it, and have de-con more Maelstrom stuff than most will likely ever get. Trying to farm daggers now...after I’ve de-con about 50 of them, and can’t get them to drop. So, sure. Token system. Let’s ask for that again.

protofeckless

Just for additional data, I've run it 13 times this week, and got a bit of almost every type:

3 Infernos
1 Lightning
1 Resto
1 Bow
2 Maul
4 DW pairs (1 Dagger among)
1 1H+S

Luckylancer

They give these tokens. They are called transmutation crystals.

Why continue whining on forums after they give cyristals and double drop dual wields? Do you want to get weapons for free too?

richo262

What they could do is introduce a rarer chance for a vMA weapon collectible to drop.

On Vet you are guaranteed a vMA weapon and RNGesus decides what you get. It would be good if there was a 10% chance for a collectible weapon to drop.

If you get a 'collectible' weapon you unlock it on your account. If you find the vMA Bow Infused 'Collectible' then all the characters on your account can use it from a new collections tab similar to the outfit tab. The vMA Bow with Infused trait is then removed from the loot table and will never drop again as a collectible version of the standard item version.

Collectible vMA items are technically not items, so they cannot be transmuted, they act similar to when you get an undaunted Bust. It is found in the loot of the final boss but it doesn't touch your inventory, it automatically unlocks in your collections. Also like the BG style pages, you will not get the same one twice.

This means, the more vMA runs you do, as you slowly collect 'collectible' versions of the weapons what you are doing is slowly knocking items out of the loot table increasing the chances of getting the item you actually want.

Casul

This makes me feel so bad for getting 2 inferno staves my first 5 clears.

iris56

I got plenty of destro staves, but it took over 50 drops for a bow I would definitely be in favor of a token system

Stebarnz

Imagine what it used to be like when you were not guaranteed a drop at all and if you stopped or crashed mid way through you had to start from the beginning! Oh and also, it used to be hard.

Don't do VMA to get a drop as if you cant do it the drops will not help you, instead do VMA to learn how to dps bosses down, work on movement, work on survivability, how to play the game.
If you can do flawless conq then you are allowed to do 4 man hm's

Idinuse

Skinzz wrote: »

I call bs. I ran it around 350-400 times and received at least 50 destro staves. Lol. Getting on the leaderboards with multiple characters increases the odds too.

*kowtow* Yet a Destruction Staff is not equal to an Inferno Staff.

SidraWillowsky

ATomiX69 wrote: »

Everyone that claims that they did more than 50 runs and didnt get an inferno is most likely just bullsh!tting and probably never did more than 10 runs to begin with.
Especially if you take into consideration that weeklies are a thing and they give you an extra reward.

Nope. I had a guildie who ran it over 80 time for the bow. And I've got another one getting up there to try and get the inferno staff.

Skinzz

Idinuse wrote: »

Skinzz wrote: »

I call bs. I ran it around 350-400 times and received at least 50 destro staves. Lol. Getting on the leaderboards with multiple characters increases the odds too.

*kowtow* Yet a Destruction Staff is not equal to an Inferno Staff.

Sorry, I meant inferno staff. Lol I keep getting them in nirnhoned!

ATomiX69

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

ATomiX69 wrote: »

Everyone that claims that they did more than 50 runs and didnt get an inferno is most likely just bullsh!tting and probably never did more than 10 runs to begin with.
Especially if you take into consideration that weeklies are a thing and they give you an extra reward.

Nope. I had a guildie who ran it over 80 time for the bow. And I've got another one getting up there to try and get the inferno staff.

And im sure they tell you 100% the truth and you kept track of every single run they did and theyre definitly not BSing and overexaggerating.
The probabilties of that are in the .5% range and for you to know two people is even less likely.

Blood_again

I was the person, who had no single bow after 80+ runs. Then, near the 100th one I got two bows in a row and one more bow as weekly reward.
That random is evil, but keep going and you will be rewarded. Just don't give up. Wish you luck

berzerkdethb14_ESO1

Blood_again wrote: »

I was the person, who had no single bow after 80+ runs. Then, near the 100th one I got two bows in a row and one more bow as weekly reward.
That random is evil, but keep going and you will be rewarded. Just don't give up. Wish you luck

thanks

SaintSubwayy

Welkynar wrote: »

Yes please. 5 tokens for one handed and 10 tokens for 2H, bows, and staves. It wouldn’t affect me anymore but other people need it. I did it nonstop for several days to get the vMA inferno staff. But for some reason, I got the dual wield, restoration staff, and ice staff SO MANY TIMES. In the end I only have 1 vMA lightning staff, 1 vMA inferno staff, and 2 vMA bows. vMA broke me (and my fingers!) and I will never return... EVER. I’ve memorized every single spawn, mechanic, voice lines... I could do a vMA run in my head!

IMO thos enumbers are way too low.
Im more on the 25 / 50 Token side tbh.

Doing 20 Runs for a full set of stamina DPS weapons is wayy too low imo.
and the more runs youll need to buy it, the bigger the chance to dropp it fdrom weeklies or the run itself.

Sergykid

give me vDSA tokens first. I can complete vMA at any time and how many times i want. But finding a group for a single vDSA run is horrible

redlink1979

berzerkdethb14_ESO1 wrote: »

I've literally done the maelstrom arena upwards of fourty or more times, and it's just getting boring now.

Still want that staff? Running it again.

IBreathlesSI

I would love to see something like this token system to come in this game.

I started the game very late but have a friend started with the launch and he does maelstorm arena once every week to get inferno staff.

And not just in maelstorm. I grinded olorime set and got every piece but one on two runs. For that one last piece I had to do Cloudrest for a month.

After all this playtime I only got burning spellweave inferno staff once. Finished city of ash 10+ times in a day to get it with guildmates. Thats 1 in 40+ drops. Ridiculous.

My point is rng on this stuff is annoying.Don't get me wrong I have no problem with rng. I am master angler and that was simply waiting for rng to love you. Players like me can do these things infinitly but not everyone have time for that.

A token sytem will be nice or instead of random drop from every boss, let us choose a piece of our desire at the and of dungeon/trial and remove share of these drops. This way to build it every player must play the content at least 5 times. More than enough.

berzerkdethb14_ESO1

I finally got my staff, but I still think this is a good idea. Nobody should have to do it that many times unless they just want to.