vMA resto next patch???????

Vortigaunt

Hello? The vma resto needs to be changed because next patch it will only provide one regen tick for rapid regen or two max for mutagen, and that’s provided you’re lucky and get crits...

Yet another vma weapon turned useless...

FrancisCrawford

Why bother? It's tied to a skill that will stop getting much regular use.

Actually, Mutagen may turn into a decent quasi-burst heal, but that's not a use case for the VMA staff.

Vortigaunt

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Why bother? It's tied to a skill that will stop getting much regular use.

Actually, Mutagen may turn into a decent quasi-burst heal, but that's not a use case for the VMA staff.

Skill that will stop getting regular use? Mate this is literally a mag vigor, rapid regen will be used by every single magicka build next patch unless it’s changed.

FlamingBeard

Maelstrom resto and Master resto both received pretty direct nerfs to their effectiveness since both of these staves get the maximum benefit of their effects when the skills that proc them are activating rapidly on whoever is being healed.

Why use Maelstrom resto if the critical healing regen no longer gives magicka return at a decent rate, since Regeneration was shortened in duration and the skill's cost was increased?

Why use Master resto if you can't stack Healing Springs to gradually grant stamina return to those who were healed?

Ragnaroek93

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Why bother? It's tied to a skill that will stop getting much regular use.

Actually, Mutagen may turn into a decent quasi-burst heal, but that's not a use case for the VMA staff.

Rapid Regen is a huge buff for everyone who does PvP (and solo PvE too), what are you talking about?

And yes, vMA resto needs buffs.

Katinas

Also DSA restoration staff will be quite useless. You will be able to cast skill once every 8 (12?) seconds. A one piece arena weapon that procs off a skill that has a similar effect of a five peace set because Grand Healing will be more like a set bonus than a skill.

TumlinTheJolly

Buffs to both of them would be smart.

Vortigaunt

Not to mention that I’m pretty sure vma bow is becoming useless next patch too, which leaves vma destro as the only good weapon in the arena.

Derra

vma Resto
master Resto
master Destro

All need some form of attention.

Vortigaunt

Derra wrote: »

vma Resto
master Resto
master Destro

All need some form of attention.

These being the weapons who are being made useless next patch. Not even mentioning all the others which have been useless for years...

Jimmy_The_Fixer

Derra wrote: »

vma Resto
master Resto
master Destro

All need some form of attention.

There’s a lot of weak arena weapons, I’m honestly fine with them being underpowered since it’s so easy to do backbar/frontbar shenanigans with them.

If a master weapon is as good as a regular 5piece than you can effectively have 3 5piece bonuses and a monster set.

Arciris

If this all goes Live as is, just decon.

Use the Symphony of Blade Monster Set, the new Hollowfang set on one bar, Olorime on the other, 2 Willpower jewels.

goldenarcher1

Vortigaunt wrote: »

Not to mention that I’m pretty sure vma bow is becoming useless next patch too, which leaves vma destro as the only good weapon in the arena.

VMA bow will be as essential as ever,but will have to wait to see numbers.

Thunderous Volley: Increased the damage bonus of this set to be nearly double the original value, since Volley and its morphs only tick once every 1 second, instead of every half second. The values are slightly less than double, since they are now on prettier numbers.

jaws343

Vortigaunt wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Why bother? It's tied to a skill that will stop getting much regular use.

Actually, Mutagen may turn into a decent quasi-burst heal, but that's not a use case for the VMA staff.

Skill that will stop getting regular use? Mate this is literally a mag vigor, rapid regen will be used by every single magicka build next patch unless it’s changed.

Will it though? If you aren't solo, good luck landing that ability on yourself. And it only hits one person now. So if you are in a group of 10 you have only a 1/10 chance the skill lands on you. Coupled with the increased cost, this skill really isn't useful unless you are alone or in very very small groups.

luen79rwb17_ESO

Also give them the stat bonus again once and for all.

fred4

I think you're mostly all wrong. Firstly, everyone and their cat will run Rapid Regen, just like every stamina build uses Vigor. I agree on that. Secondly, Healing Ward can go to another person, yet people still use it as their sole heal and it tends to work reasonably well. Rapid Regen will probably replace Healing Ward as the PvP heal of choice. Thirdly, you may well end up casting Rapid Regen every 5 seconds, just like good stamina players keep up their Vigor. This ticks every one second, which will actually INCREASE vMA resto staff proc chances.

I suppose this is build dependent. A shield stacking sorc may not have much use for a vMA resto. For non-shielding builds, though, I think it will in fact be the weapon of choice. Put on Pirate Skeleton and Protective jewelry and a templar is already damn tanky in light armor. I can also see wardens building without shields, stacking Living Trellis with Rapid Regen. Magicka DKs are strong at blocking. All these classes can easily adopt a magicka Vigor-like playstyle.

vMA resto can only proc every 4 seconds. You're only looking for a proc every 4 seconds. I think it's highly likely that Rapid Regen will give you one, so at the very least consider than it knocks 800 magicka off that skill.

The thing that worries me more is that all these magicka classes, bar a cloaking nightblade, whose healing sucks, will stack their existing healing with this and no one will be able to kill each other. I love a 5 second HOT in PvP. I think Vigor is one of the best heals in the game, but you have to consider that magicka classes have other sources of healing. Templars, sorcs and wardens have burst heals. Wardens already derive much of their tankiness from healing (Living Trellis, cough). DKs heal from Burning Embers, Cauterize, ultimates. When you consider that Vigor and Rally tend to be the only stamina heals in many builds, with stamden so highly rated due to it's unconditional stamina burst heal, I think we're moving from a tank meta into a magicka heal meta.

sweatapodimas

Love my VMA resto now, will REALLY love the mag-vigor (i.e. mutagen)/VMA if they keep these changes.

Vortigaunt

fred4 wrote: »

I think you're mostly all wrong. Firstly, everyone and their cat will run Rapid Regen, just like every stamina build uses Vigor. I agree on that. Secondly, Healing Ward can go to another person, yet people still use it as their sole heal and it tends to work reasonably well. Rapid Regen will probably replace Healing Ward as the PvP heal of choice. Thirdly, you may well end up casting Rapid Regen every 5 seconds, just like good stamina players keep up their Vigor. This ticks every one second, which will actually INCREASE vMA resto staff proc chances.

I suppose this is build dependent. A shield stacking sorc may not have much use for a vMA resto. For non-shielding builds, though, I think it will in fact be the weapon of choice. Put on Pirate Skeleton and Protective jewelry and a templar is already damn tanky in light armor. I can also see wardens building without shields, stacking Living Trellis with Rapid Regen. Magicka DKs are strong at blocking. All these classes can easily adopt a magicka Vigor-like playstyle.

vMA resto can only proc every 4 seconds. You're only looking for a proc every 4 seconds. I think it's highly likely that Rapid Regen will give you one, so at the very least consider than it knocks 800 magicka off that skill.

The thing that worries me more is that all these magicka classes, bar a cloaking nightblade, whose healing sucks, will stack their existing healing with this and no one will be able to kill each other. I love a 5 second HOT in PvP. I think Vigor is one of the best heals in the game, but you have to consider that magicka classes have other sources of healing. Templars, sorcs and wardens have burst heals. Wardens already derive much of their tankiness from healing (Living Trellis, cough). DKs heal from Burning Embers, Cauterize, ultimates. When you consider that Vigor and Rally tend to be the only stamina heals in many builds, with stamden so highly rated due to it's unconditional stamina burst heal, I think we're moving from a tank meta into a magicka heal meta.

Yes I have the same worry, that it will be too much healing.

The 800 cost reduction is useless, I won’t waste a valuable 2p which can be used on something like the broken op BR resto just so one skill out of 10 can cost 800 less mag...

validifyedneb18_ESO

I on the otherhand wish they would continue the trend of making arena weapons useless.

They ruin build diversity by being hard-locked meta like the bow or the staff, and are probably now the single most infuriating case in the entire game of pointless RNG.

Im not against the harder content, especially VMA, from giving you some of the best gear, but a 16% basechance with 3-5% chance of type for staves and weapon subtypes at the end of a 30mins+ grind that is intended to be a challenge (ie.. do it once and you'e "won" kinda thing) is beyond stupid, and build diversity is also suffering under these weapons too.

OrphanHelgen

Master resto is worse