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Is trade history broken again??
agegarton
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Since today's patch my MM doesn't seem to be pulling any data. Running /mm missing takes about 5 seconds, completes, and returns nothing. Yesterday it all seemed to be working ok-ish, albeit slowly!
Anyone else having the same issues?
Anyone else having the same issues?
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Mitrenga✭✭✭✭✭Looks like it, yeah. My guildies in PC EU are having the same problem.
I have that exact problem too, my latest data is from 22 days ago. Hours of scanning did not work either.0 -
StabbityDoom✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭You still get alerts though. I think it's mm's main screen isn't updating, but the data is. Trying /mm clean worked for me1 -
Mitrenga✭✭✭✭✭Hi @ZOS_GinaBruno ;
Could you give us an update if there are any changes? Not just MM but players with ATT addon are also reporting the same issue in guild chat. Sales after the patch is not registed in history.2 -
Carbonised✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Can confirm that pretty much everyone in my trade guilds on PC EU are experiencing the same, after today's update we once again got no access to sales history through addons.
Good job!
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Raisin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Someone please correct me here: isn't it supposed to be this way? The last change I heard was that you can see a bit of the history again, but not in a way that makes add-ons using it functionable.0 -
Carbonised✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Someone please correct me here: isn't it supposed to be this way? The last change I heard was that you can see a bit of the history again, but not in a way that makes add-ons using it functionable.
No it's not. ATT worked perfectly well since they enable history again, it even had access to all the "lost" history during the blackout period. But, it updated more slowly, so it only accessed sales a couple of times every hour, instead of before where it basically updated in real time (so accessed sales data a lot more frequently).
Right now there's no access at all to sales data, which is a pretty huge deal, as everyone should be able to imagine.3 -
majulook✭✭✭✭✭
✭So from what I have been able to find out...
After having the guild history turned off for a week, ZOS added a cooldown on Guild Information pulls from the server. We used to be able to get info every 1.5 seconds, the change made it 30 seconds per 100 records. The result for MM is a large trade guild would take 2-ish hours for 10 days history.
Looks like ZOS again has modified the ability to pull the Guild info, or possibly turned it off again. With no notice to the community.Si vis pacem, para bellum0 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Tbh, I simply afraid to login on patch day, it is usually a complete mess.2 -
Carbonised✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Looks like ZOS again has modified the ability to pull the Guild info, or possibly turned it off again. With no notice to the community.
That's basically what happened. And with the lack of communication from ZOS on this, and what they intend to do in the future, it could potentially look very bleak for trading addons.
And you know, if ZOS had bothered implementing a system from the beginning to value and price items for selling, then we wouldn't be in this mire to begin with, nor be reliant on sites such as TTC to do our business.
MM, ATT and TTC were all developed due to the vanilla trading UI and pricing and value systems being woefully inadequate.3 -
StabbityDoom✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_SarahHecker a very respectful request here that you (or any community person) please let us know when the trade history has been turned off? I think we all recognize it will be, off and on, until it’s fixed. But letting us know would prevent these panicked threads and mass confusion and speculation on our part.
What would be even more appreciated would be if you could let us know in advance, however, I know this is unlikely to happen given the nature of why it's being shut off.Edited by StabbityDoom on July 1, 2019 4:14PM10 -
Dont_do_drugs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm tired. I took so much time into supporting atts development, arka took up so much time developing it. I am tired of gming 2 successful trade guilds in that broken system. I'm having two jobs in RL and eso is by far not as entertaining anymore. It's no good feeling anymore, logging in, no joy, only feeling annoyed or angered by zos. Looks like I'm gonna disband my guilds. While devs at least hype each other over their ohsoawesome product, if Noone else does. If we're not worth ur time and efforts, you and your game aren't worth my time anymore as well.Edited by Dont_do_drugs on July 1, 2019 4:58PM
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"I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."
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Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Royaly screw this company, honestly how pathetic is it that the most basic api functions are too much for this game to handle
Edit: sorry I forget the mods think we’re toddlersEdited by Jhalin on July 1, 2019 8:04PM4 -
JPS✭✭✭✭Please take out this garbage guild finder tool that doesn't even remove expired applications, and give me back my trade history. I am so fed up with this noobish amateurism hobby club company that cant even get one thing right.
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Fiktius✭✭✭✭It would be super nice if cases like this would be announced beforehand. This silence about the case is frustrating.
Any new information about the case would be highly appreciated!Edited by Fiktius on July 1, 2019 6:06PM7 -
reoskit✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tagging to watch, but man... I really don't have the energy to go another round on this nonsense.
For the people who inevitably will say "adapt" - we did. We stopped playing the game - we gave up HOURS of playtime to run missings to pull data to run our guilds. And now it's gone again.
ZOS - you guys do not make it easy to enjoy this game.9 -
realboi✭✭The 'Show More' button has disappeared for the Sales History tab. It's there for guild history, but not for sales history.1
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StabbityDoom✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Tagging to watch, but man... I really don't have the energy to go another round on this nonsense.
For the people who inevitably will say "adapt" - we did. We stopped playing the game - we gave up HOURS of playtime to run missings to pull data to run our guilds. And now it's gone again.
ZOS - you guys do not make it easy to enjoy this game.
I'm tired too but you know I'm here for this fight. So rest if you need to, I've got this on my perma opened tab :P
Edited by StabbityDoom on July 1, 2019 6:16PM12 -
reoskit✭✭✭✭✭
✭StabbityDoom wrote: »Tagging to watch, but man... I really don't have the energy to go another round on this nonsense.
For the people who inevitably will say "adapt" - we did. We stopped playing the game - we gave up HOURS of playtime to run missings to pull data to run our guilds. And now it's gone again.
ZOS - you guys do not make it easy to enjoy this game.
I'm tired too but you know I'm here for this fight. So rest if you need to, I've got this on my perma opened tab :P
So, I hear you want to run a trade guild, @StabbityDoom... *polishes silver platter*
Seriously, tho. Thank you for your persistence.
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Dont_do_drugs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭StabbityDoom wrote: »Tagging to watch, but man... I really don't have the energy to go another round on this nonsense.
For the people who inevitably will say "adapt" - we did. We stopped playing the game - we gave up HOURS of playtime to run missings to pull data to run our guilds. And now it's gone again.
ZOS - you guys do not make it easy to enjoy this game.
I'm tired too but you know I'm here for this fight. So rest if you need to, I've got this on my perma opened tab :P
i gave you an awesome. can you pls tagg me, as soon as zos announces history back? while that i will go doing my second job and after that shoot weird aliens in destiny 2. thanks for your strength, i am atm not only bcs of the game development not in the right mood to fight anymore.
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"I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."
Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.
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StabbityDoom✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Dont_do_drugs wrote: »StabbityDoom wrote: »Tagging to watch, but man... I really don't have the energy to go another round on this nonsense.
For the people who inevitably will say "adapt" - we did. We stopped playing the game - we gave up HOURS of playtime to run missings to pull data to run our guilds. And now it's gone again.
ZOS - you guys do not make it easy to enjoy this game.
I'm tired too but you know I'm here for this fight. So rest if you need to, I've got this on my perma opened tab :P
i gave you an awesome. can you pls tagg me, as soon as zos announces history back? while that i will go doing my second job and after that shoot weird aliens in destiny 2. thanks for your strength, i am atm not only bcs of the game development not in the right mood to fight anymore.
I wouldn't hold your breath, but okay. I'm in a bad mood too.0 -
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✭✭✭StabbityDoom wrote: »Tagging to watch, but man... I really don't have the energy to go another round on this nonsense.
For the people who inevitably will say "adapt" - we did. We stopped playing the game - we gave up HOURS of playtime to run missings to pull data to run our guilds. And now it's gone again.
ZOS - you guys do not make it easy to enjoy this game.
I'm tired too but you know I'm here for this fight. So rest if you need to, I've got this on my perma opened tab :P
So, I hear you want to run a trade guild, @StabbityDoom... *polishes silver platter*
Seriously, tho. Thank you for your persistence.
Today I quit two guilds on my alt account, so I'm not the best to ask. :P1 -
sylviermoone✭✭✭✭✭Oh for effs effing sake.
Phil and I haven't had a chance to log in today, and we have family activities planned for tonight and tomorrow night. We will do our best to look into this issue as quickly as possible, but it sounds like it isn't a MM coding error, this is a nut-punch right from the powers that be....Co-GM, Angry Unicorn Traders: PC/NA
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✭✭✭✭✭sylviermoone wrote: »Oh for effs effing sake.
Phil and I haven't had a chance to log in today, and we have family activities planned for tonight and tomorrow night. We will do our best to look into this issue as quickly as possible, but it sounds like it isn't a MM coding error, this is a nut-punch right from the powers that be....
it is, att users reporting same issues. this is coming form zos, no worries.
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"I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."
Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.
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✭✭sylviermoone wrote: »Oh for effs effing sake.
Phil and I haven't had a chance to log in today, and we have family activities planned for tonight and tomorrow night. We will do our best to look into this issue as quickly as possible, but it sounds like it isn't a MM coding error, this is a nut-punch right from the powers that be....
This evening the trick of manually accessing history then firing up MM worked, where it didn't earlier. I'm guessing the powers that be switched off history, then switched it back on again later.1 -
ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerApologies for the confusion, everyone. Earlier this afternoon, we re-enabled guild history read requests for addons on both PC NA and EU. Everything should now be as it was prior to the most recent patch today.2 -
Dont_do_drugs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭sylviermoone wrote: »Oh for effs effing sake.
Phil and I haven't had a chance to log in today, and we have family activities planned for tonight and tomorrow night. We will do our best to look into this issue as quickly as possible, but it sounds like it isn't a MM coding error, this is a nut-punch right from the powers that be....
This evening the trick of manually accessing history then firing up MM worked, where it didn't earlier. I'm guessing the powers that be switched off history, then switched it back on again later.
and now people cant logg in anymore to make use of this nice feature
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"I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."
Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.
Arkadius Trade Tools
Modular framework, now open for authors who want to add own tabs.
My Donation (Arkadius' Trade Tools Addon)
First external ATT tab contribution.
Port to Friend's House Addon
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Deutsch | English4
