Stop making my character be an idiot

Zacuel

Makes you wonder why people skip dialogue completely...

"But you're missing out on SO much!"

Lol. No, not really.

jainiadral

ArchMikem wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

My favorite was about halfway through Elsweyr's main story when my toon asked Abnur Tharn about how the dragons got there.

"Are you suffering brain damage? You and I...something about the dungeon DLC."

No I didn't. I don't do group content. Asked something else.

"[Snarky comment]. You and I did... something about the prelude quest."

No, I didn't.

*bashes head against keyboard*

Playing content out of chronological order must be fun.

I don't even know how to pick up the prelude quest, TBH. I was taking a break from the game when it released.

warabi

Zacuel wrote: »

Makes you wonder why people skip dialogue completely...

"But you're missing out on SO much!"

Lol. No, not really.

This is not a common occurrence (that I can recall) and is a mere quibble compared to how fun most of the questing is in ESO. I believe you're missing out, but then again I've never understood why people play MMOs and never read any dialogue to begin with. Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.

Zacuel

warabi wrote: »

Zacuel wrote: »

Makes you wonder why people skip dialogue completely...

"But you're missing out on SO much!"

Lol. No, not really.

This is not a common occurrence (that I can recall) and is a mere quibble compared to how fun most of the questing is in ESO. I believe you're missing out, but then again I've never understood why people play MMOs and never read any dialogue to begin with. Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.

Lol. No, not really.

Dracheimflug

Companions: 'Hi, we're the idiots who broke the pact and effectively let Molag Bal cause all this strife. Help us?'
Me (reality) : Um... pardon? You sound like the last people anyone should be rushing to help...
Me (in game) : Wow, you sound like great heroes! Of course I'll trust you completely!

Abnur Tharn: 'Hi, I am here to help you get Lyris' weapon back. But it won't be easy for you' <proceeds to stand there doing nothing while Lyris and I have to fight to be able to regain her weapon, not much different from our having to regain her armour>
Me (reality) : Sure seems suspicious that Abnur just stood there doing nothing, especially since he previously betrayed you by siding with Mannimarco...
Me (in game): Abnur helped us! We can trust him now.

Razum-dar is one of the few NPC's who actually seems to show respect for our characters, plus seems legitimately competent, so I'm inclined to like him.

Also, after what happened with the Amulet of Kings, it seems reasonable to conclude that if someone had destroyed it, that would also have broken the pact. There might well be a similar risk in breaking the crown. Far better to research the subject properly before doing anything rash.

Dracheimflug

warabi wrote: »

Zacuel wrote: »

Makes you wonder why people skip dialogue completely...

"But you're missing out on SO much!"

Lol. No, not really.

This is not a common occurrence (that I can recall) and is a mere quibble compared to how fun most of the questing is in ESO. I believe you're missing out, but then again I've never understood why people play MMOs and never read any dialogue to begin with. Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.

I cannot understand the popular support for the concept of stamina based casters. How exactly would a necro animate the dead using stamina? Stare at the corpse until it animates? Physically wield it like a weapon? lol.... Feels to me like there is a significant faction of the power base who play just to power game and setting is completely irrelevant to them.

Mayrael

Oh I'd love to have option to personalize each toon character features, knowledge etc. Then when in dialogue have sometimes (like persuasion or intimidate) an option to choose one of them. When you play huge muscular orc with 2 handed axe that can cut horse in a half it's kinda lame to be afraid of fighting or playing master arcanist mage that can summon daedras and knowing nothing about daedric lords... But well, that's not Baldurs Gate or Divinity.

Nevertheless when compared to other MMOs ESO is really way above the average when it goes to RPG aspects. We should be thankful for what we have. Don't believe me? No problem, go check other MMOs. We can say many bad things about development, but the game it self is amazing.

Ildun

mairwen85 wrote: »

In the end we'll wake up, take a shower and realize it was all a dream.

Well, the whole TES universe is a dream in Godhead. Perhaps Razum-dar achieve CHIM :P

barney2525

Hate to break it to you....


Your character believes they are on some 'divine' mission under the guidance of a scroll that, your character believes, is being written as your character develops.


They Are an idiot.

And so are all of our characters.

Delsanab14_ESO

Becoming the ruler of elves (as in the ones that see you and can thus be influenced by your crown, so after that gets out they'll be attacking you from afar) would significantly paint a target on your back and is also a really bad idea in a war time where any faction losing would change everything and cause chaos.

Dracheimflug

Delsanab14_ESO wrote: »

Becoming the ruler of elves (as in the ones that see you and can thus be influenced by your crown, so after that gets out they'll be attacking you from afar) would significantly paint a target on your back and is also a really bad idea in a war time where any faction losing would change everything and cause chaos.

To be fair the only reason they would know why they are being influenced or controlled is that NPC's magically know pretty much everything about you no matter that you are completely new in the region, while calling you a newbie no matter how long you have been in the region.

Also everyone calls our characters 'outsiders' begging the question where our characters actually came from at all...

TheShadowScout

Dracheimflug wrote: »

Razum-dar is one of the few NPC's who actually seems to show respect for our characters, plus seems legitimately competent, so I'm inclined to like him.

Considering the whole content of this discussion, I probably would be more inclined to like NPCs who show less respect for our character. Since it seems... our characters don't really deserve all that much respect sometimes...

16BitForestCat

Our characters are so intelligent that they're constantly being asked to solve puzzles and riddles that scholars can't figure out, find ancient relics, lost cities, and missing people that no one else can track down...and yet they're simultaneously so idiotic that they need repeated reminders about a major event that just happened TO THEM five minutes ago. Our characters are the smartest and stupidest people in all of Nirn and Oblivion. That's definitely the thing that gets under my skin most about the otherwise great writing (and I often find myself rewriting the "I'm a dumb-butt" dialogue in my head so it's far less awkward).

I also frequently pretend there's another character standing behind me who's asking all the stupid questions about things they should already know, and the NPC is calling them an idiot, not me, when they reply. Meanwhile, my character is rolling their eyes right along with the NPC who's flabbergasted that someone doesn't know what Daedra are.

EDIT: *Yawn @ below reply* You ain't funny, "barney2525" the Baby Boomer dinosaur (yes, I saw your stated age in the recent thread about older gamers, as well as other questionable comments from you in other threads). Go back to whining on Fox News comment sections about how avocados are destroying the economy and refusing to admit to your generation's actual terrible behavior that's having such dire effects in the present.

Signed,

This Gen X'er

EDIT again because that typo was bugging me still, el oh el

warabi

A specialization of a class out of many (that can be explained if you read anything about said setting) or the entire basis and narrative of a game you play in. Those are totally the same, you're right. Anyway, as we can see by Zac's response he's given all of this a lot of thought and it's nice ESO can appeal to all sorts of people.

barney2525

16BitForestCat wrote: »

Our characters are so intelligent that they're constantly being asked to solve puzzles and riddles that scholars can't figure out, find ancient relics, lost cities, and missing people that no one else can track down...and yet they're simultaneously so idiotic that they need repeated reminders about a major event that just happened TO THEM five minutes ago. Our characters are the smartest and stupidest people in all of Nirn and Oblivion. That's definitely the thing that gets under my skin most about the otherwise great writing (and I often find myself rewriting the "I'm a dumb-butt" dialogue in my head so it's far less awkward).

I also frequently pretend there's another character standing behind me who's asking all the stupid questions about things they should already know, and the NPC is calling them an idiot, not me, when they reply. Meanwhile, my character is rolling their eyes right along with the NPC who's flabbergasted that someone doesn't know what Daedra are.

Our characters are Millennials?

8D

<running for cover>

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Glurin wrote: »

Wasn't there something about a passphrase to make that crown work? If I remember right, you can ask Raz about what's stopping you from taking the crown and ruling the world and he makes some kind of joke and then mentions a passphrase.

Yup; IIRC it's optional dialogue though, so easy to miss.

Jayman1000

I have been dealing with these "choices" the Elder Scrolls series have given me since Skyrim. I wanted to kill all and rule skyrim like a psycho despot, but no, I just had to choose either Stormcloaks or Imperial. Why?! I want to be a dragon and kill all then crown myself Falmer-king of the world! But no, they wont let me.