Breton hero always getting slapped around.

TiaFrye

RogueShark wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

RogueShark wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

In every cgi trailer the Breton hero always ends up on his ass. Just saying even with his new necro power he still gets the crap beaten out of him. Before he got beaten to a pulp by the Ebon heart hero. It seems zos doesn’t like daggerfall lol

with the amount of returning characters from DC in all DLCs and chapters you would've guessed that a long time ago. and it's sad

ArchMikem wrote: »

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I'm quite pissed off they made the black cat the center of this trailer wth... Just adds to the overall dissapointment

lolwut? You mean Queen Khamira, the main protagonist of the Elsweyr story other than the player?

they mean another stupid gurl power moment, considering that her majesty was useless in the previous part of the trailer and nearly got burned

LOL🤣

That’s reaching

I am a woman, mind you, and I am tired of this. So yeah, I'm reaching. It could've been a group effort, it could've been realistic, but they chose to give that moment to the queen and give her a plot armor none the less.

Were we watching the same trailer...? That was a huge team effort! Every single one of them (except maybe Abnur...) would have been TOAST if not for the others.

Khamira shoots the dragon, it hardly bothers it. She charges in, gets knocked flat on her butt off her horse, and then would have been eaten or fried if the Breton hero didn't show up.
Breton hero tanks the dragon for a while, and then it's his turn to be saved by Abnur Tharn, just as he's about to be nommed. Dat resto heavy attack pulling aggro, tho.
Breton gets saved by Khamira, then she gets saved, just as she's about to be eaten, by Sai and his dudes.
She was only lucky enough to climb the dragon because Abnur Tharn CC'd it like a boss and the dragon apparently was out of stam to break free.
The dragon also would have been free and clear to get away probably, even with the wing shred (he was maintaining flight, not falling, and I think even still starting to gain altitude), so even if Khamira assisted by stalling it, the giant Dragon Impaled of Doom took the dragon down.

My point is, that her majesty: 1) was not badass in the first trailer; 2) then suddenly became OP in the second, where she got absolutely stupid moment going SHAAAASH on a damn dragon and survived the fall from a enormous height. It's literally GoT S8 quality stuff, where one girl can suddenly can take down a main villian because it's a representation.

Altmer protagonist died in her trailer, even tho it's a dream, attacked by gryphon. Khamira can't die because of story reasons, then let her help instead of giving her a plot armor. But no, others are dudes and no cat, so take this and be happy.

I like Khamira in the game, tho her story was rushed, but this is rediculous.

I think the only OP thing I can agree on her doing is falling from such a height and being basically fine. I'm dead AF when I stumble off a semi-steep incline in game. >.<
That being said... I feel like if she'd been 'super badass' in the first trailer, then you'd just be upset about that, rather than continuity. I don't feel like she was immensely badass over Abnur or the Breton Hero in this. Breton Hero certainly got the short end of the stick, but he saved Khamira, no doubt about it. I'd say Sai Sahan was the real 'upstager' here, bringing down the dragon with a single shot with mild assistance. But everyone worked incredibly well together in the cinematic.

Again, opinions are opinions, so I'll respect your disagreeing. But it's a huge stretch to say Khamira single-handedly beat down a dragon. She was not one girl taking down a main villain.

No one's talking super badass, it would've been enough to show off that she can survive rough conditions. But she just ran. And was nearly killed because somehow she forgot about trailer version of the Halls being on a cliff. Old wizard ran faster than her, for god's sake.
That being said, after the trailer I've not expected her to be a badass in the game, and she wasn't in prologue. She was a smartass, yes, with a magical amulet, but badass? Not quite.
Yet for some unknown reason she posed to be as such in the second trailer, going Dragon Age's Riordan on that dragon. Except Riordan died during that move. ZOS could've use her stealthiness, but instead she stupidly bumps face to face with a dragon and it costs her little to nothing. She didn't take him down single handedly, gods forbid, but she should've died at least 3 times during that battle and I call it plot armor. And no plot armor would've been needed if her role in battle wasn't a stupid direct confrontation just to show off a bad sjw writing how nearly unstoppable and stupidly brave she are all of the sudden, because she's a girl.

Morrowind's trailer for example haven't left me confused, battle was derected to show off both Naryu and the Warden in the same fashion, and Naryu felt on her place.
Here the Hero could've been saved from under the pile of rocks by Tharn, or some Dragonguard dudes, but he was purposely left there to give Khamira her "gurl power" moment. And that's the problem we have with this. In previous instances Breton hero was fighting another hero, not an NPC, and we all can loose to another player, but now the hero was washed off for the sake of an NPC and that's so stupid.

Jaimeh

TiaFrye wrote: »

And no plot armor would've been needed if her role in battle wasn't a stupid direct confrontation just to show off a bad sjw writing how nearly unstoppable and stupidly brave she are all of the sudden, because she's a girl.

What sad times we are living in when a female character doing stuff begets comments like these, while if Khamira was a male khajiit there wouldn't even be a discussion to be had... It's not 'plot armor', the trailer gives a splotlight to all characters involved, but the scene with the smarl (which was fantastic, imo), wouldn't have worked half as well with a non-beast race character doing it. FYI, you don't need the trailers to gauge whether Khamira is a badass or not, just do the Elsweyr mainquest, and you'll find that she is.

Shadowasrial

Wrong has nothing to do with her being female at all simply just stating Breton hero is always getting knocked on his ass

Jaimeh wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

And no plot armor would've been needed if her role in battle wasn't a stupid direct confrontation just to show off a bad sjw writing how nearly unstoppable and stupidly brave she are all of the sudden, because she's a girl.

What sad times we are living in when a female character doing stuff begets comments like these, while if Khamira was a male khajiit there wouldn't even be a discussion to be had... It's not 'plot armor', the trailer gives a splotlight to all characters involved, but the scene with the smarl (which was fantastic, imo), wouldn't have worked half as well with a non-beast race character doing it. FYI, you don't need the trailers to gauge whether Khamira is a badass or not, just do the Elsweyr mainquest, and you'll find that she is.

Taleof2Cities

Everyone forgets who gets slapped around more than the Breton Hero:


Stibbons

UnseenCat

The Breton hero tanks it like boss. Grab aggro, and when the dragon tries to go after somebody else, drops ultimate and yanks the dragon back on himself, takes it on the chin and still survives. All the characters are playing it out as an epic fight down to the last few HP/stam/magicka.

As for Khamira showboating or being reckless... shes a CAT. Style matters. If you don't know cats, you can't understand.

And in the first trailer, Abnur ran away first, in true Monty Python "Run Away! Run Away!" fashion. Khamira held her ground, then sprinted like an Olympic champion. Abnur grabbing her, save or not, got a kill-you-where-you-stand nasty glare. Never grab the cat by the scruff. Never.

Blinkin8r

Shadowasrial wrote: »

I mean I won’t lie the trailer was badass I just think it’s funny that the Breton hero which before he was a necro was a badass assassin and now turned into a badass necro warrior still got his head bashed in and yet it was the khajit with no powers just some acrobatics was able to go head to head against the dragon before it got shot out of the sky

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TiaFrye

Jaimeh wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

And no plot armor would've been needed if her role in battle wasn't a stupid direct confrontation just to show off a bad sjw writing how nearly unstoppable and stupidly brave she are all of the sudden, because she's a girl.

What sad times we are living in when a female character doing stuff begets comments like these, while if Khamira was a male khajiit there wouldn't even be a discussion to be had... It's not 'plot armor', the trailer gives a splotlight to all characters involved, but the scene with the smarl (which was fantastic, imo), wouldn't have worked half as well with a non-beast race character doing it. FYI, you don't need the trailers to gauge whether Khamira is a badass or not, just do the Elsweyr mainquest, and you'll find that she is.

Incorrect. Gender doesn't matter, if you're writing the character one way and then represent them in entirely different role out of nowhere. It wasn't comment about "woman should be quiet while man should go in direct confrontation", and the fact you saw it that way - the real sad thing.
And I did Elsweyr MQ a couple of times already thank you very much. Thing is, without a hero, us, in this stories, no matter how OP any NPC are, they're screwed. Protagonist does all the work. Both times we fight dragon in MQ, we doing it solo. Others are standing far, far away, Khamira included.

Nova Sky

Osteos wrote: »

She also stole Riordon's move from Dragon Age: Origins He at least died falling from that height and aren't cats supposed to land on their feet..

The DC hero if he does represent the player should have been the center of attention not Khamira.

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Minno

Shadowasrial wrote: »

I mean I won’t lie the trailer was badass I just think it’s funny that the Breton hero which before he was a necro was a badass assassin and now turned into a badass necro warrior still got his head bashed in and yet it was the khajit with no powers just some acrobatics was able to go head to head against the dragon before it got shot out of the sky

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