Breton hero always getting slapped around.

master_vanargand

Breton Hero died and changed class.
So class change costs money to death.

Cadbury

max_only wrote: »

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I'm quite pissed off they made the black cat the center of this trailer wth... Just adds to the overall dissapointment

It’s the Elsweyr expansion. Talking cat people. Do you think Zeni is looking behind them at all the old players? No they are looking ahead of them to snare the huge internet cat audience. Every step they made before Elsweyr dropped was to make it as appealing as possible to be a talking cat. Any changes they go forward will benefit talking cats. It’s all cats all the time. Not just furries but your regular “oh that’s so cute” internet denizen too. Talking cats bro, it’s the future. They can print money with talking cats.

Considering how the Internet reacted when Tardar Sauce AKA Grumpy Cat died, I'd say Zeni made the smart decision.

Thrawniel

max_only wrote: »

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I'm quite pissed off they made the black cat the center of this trailer wth... Just adds to the overall dissapointment

It’s the Elsweyr expansion. Talking cat people. Do you think Zeni is looking behind them at all the old players? No they are looking ahead of them to snare the huge internet cat audience. Every step they made before Elsweyr dropped was to make it as appealing as possible to be a talking cat. Any changes they go forward will benefit talking cats. It’s all cats all the time. Not just furries but your regular “oh that’s so cute” internet denizen too. Talking cats bro, it’s the future. They can print money with talking cats.

As someone who mained khajiit since launch day (and in beta too), I tend to disagree with your statement than Zeni does not care for old players. If anything, it is a long overdue after two elf-themed expansions.

zaria

TiaFrye wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

In every cgi trailer the Breton hero always ends up on his ass. Just saying even with his new necro power he still gets the crap beaten out of him. Before he got beaten to a pulp by the Ebon heart hero. It seems zos doesn’t like daggerfall lol

with the amount of returning characters from DC in all DLCs and chapters you would've guessed that a long time ago. and it's sad

ArchMikem wrote: »

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I'm quite pissed off they made the black cat the center of this trailer wth... Just adds to the overall dissapointment

lolwut? You mean Queen Khamira, the main protagonist of the Elsweyr story other than the player?

they mean another stupid gurl power moment, considering that her majesty was useless in the previous part of the trailer and nearly got burned

All the npc followers are useless, doing less than 1K dps and can not hold agro, the prophet healed you in the fight before escaping coldharbor was probably the most useful.
So seeing them kick ass in an movie is a bit weird because of that but see why they did it.

Druid40

Good. Filthy backstabbers.

Ye_Olde_Crowe

I don't mind if the Breton gets slapped around much as long as he's still there and doing stuff.
Which means my t-shirt remains valid.

robpr

Can he hiss at dragon at point blank range though?

RogueShark

TiaFrye wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

In every cgi trailer the Breton hero always ends up on his ass. Just saying even with his new necro power he still gets the crap beaten out of him. Before he got beaten to a pulp by the Ebon heart hero. It seems zos doesn’t like daggerfall lol

with the amount of returning characters from DC in all DLCs and chapters you would've guessed that a long time ago. and it's sad

ArchMikem wrote: »

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I'm quite pissed off they made the black cat the center of this trailer wth... Just adds to the overall dissapointment

lolwut? You mean Queen Khamira, the main protagonist of the Elsweyr story other than the player?

they mean another stupid gurl power moment, considering that her majesty was useless in the previous part of the trailer and nearly got burned

LOL🤣

That’s reaching

I am a woman, mind you, and I am tired of this. So yeah, I'm reaching. It could've been a group effort, it could've been realistic, but they chose to give that moment to the queen and give her a plot armor none the less.

Were we watching the same trailer...? That was a huge team effort! Every single one of them (except maybe Abnur...) would have been TOAST if not for the others.

Khamira shoots the dragon, it hardly bothers it. She charges in, gets knocked flat on her butt off her horse, and then would have been eaten or fried if the Breton hero didn't show up.
Breton hero tanks the dragon for a while, and then it's his turn to be saved by Abnur Tharn, just as he's about to be nommed. Dat resto heavy attack pulling aggro, tho.
Breton gets saved by Khamira, then she gets saved, just as she's about to be eaten, by Sai and his dudes.
She was only lucky enough to climb the dragon because Abnur Tharn CC'd it like a boss and the dragon apparently was out of stam to break free.
The dragon also would have been free and clear to get away probably, even with the wing shred (he was maintaining flight, not falling, and I think even still starting to gain altitude), so even if Khamira assisted by stalling it, the giant Dragon Impaled of Doom took the dragon down.

Radiance

This is an Elsweyr Chapter... About Kats... That was her town, her people so of course she was the first to rush into battle. Not to mention we had to wait this long for a Kahjiit to enter the Cinematic trailers. The Breton had his time to shine in the original trailers and still Kicked A... Butt In every trailer he has been in. You remind me of the PVPers who cry for nerfs every time they get spanked. You can't expect one person to dominate everything all the time. There is literally nothing appealing about a God Mode character. The struggle makes your triumphs worth while. And don't even get me started with the incel Anti-fem BS every time a woman does anything. Is your masculinity really that fragile!?

Posts like this is why we can't have nice things. SHAME!

Vilahelm

The Breton Hero does have some bad luck... but it's admirable that he keeps getting back up.

He did get beat up a lot in this trailer, though I think it kind of makes sense. It's a dragon, the first one he's fought, he was injured at the beginning from being in the wagon and probably weakened. We've still got another part to this trailer, so there's still hope that he can have his moments.

EdoKeledus

In the CGI Trailers, there are two overpowering characters, the nord hero and the altmer hero and it's seems there are promoted by ZOS but why ?

It was just to please The Elder Scrolls V Skyrim players since this game shows the rivalry between the stormcloaks(nord) and the Empire of Cyrodiil controlled by the Thalmor(altmer) basically. When you see the strenght of those heroes, indestructible warrior and superpowerful mage, you just want to join them and by extension the Ebonheart Pact and the Aldmeri Dominion it's understandable.

Now about the breton hero, he's not god tier compared to the other two, he's just a human with his strenghts and weaknesses. That's why he's the most interesting, breton hero represent very well what's mankind, like the op said "Breton hero always ends up on his ass". Yes he's beaten but he keeps fighting again and again. He's the symbol of humanity, and the humanity has an infinite potential.

OP said " It seems zos doesn’t like daggerfall" but the Daggerfall Convenant was created by the bretons and it's the most egalitarian faction of the three, with a very noble purpose if you look the EP/AD philosophy.

EP and AD are strong but they lack wisdom of mind, Emeric(a breton) is the wisest of the three leaders and according to Tywin Lannister, Wisdom is what makes a good king.

TiaFrye

RogueShark wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

In every cgi trailer the Breton hero always ends up on his ass. Just saying even with his new necro power he still gets the crap beaten out of him. Before he got beaten to a pulp by the Ebon heart hero. It seems zos doesn’t like daggerfall lol

with the amount of returning characters from DC in all DLCs and chapters you would've guessed that a long time ago. and it's sad

ArchMikem wrote: »

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I'm quite pissed off they made the black cat the center of this trailer wth... Just adds to the overall dissapointment

lolwut? You mean Queen Khamira, the main protagonist of the Elsweyr story other than the player?

they mean another stupid gurl power moment, considering that her majesty was useless in the previous part of the trailer and nearly got burned

LOL🤣

That’s reaching

I am a woman, mind you, and I am tired of this. So yeah, I'm reaching. It could've been a group effort, it could've been realistic, but they chose to give that moment to the queen and give her a plot armor none the less.

Were we watching the same trailer...? That was a huge team effort! Every single one of them (except maybe Abnur...) would have been TOAST if not for the others.

Khamira shoots the dragon, it hardly bothers it. She charges in, gets knocked flat on her butt off her horse, and then would have been eaten or fried if the Breton hero didn't show up.
Breton hero tanks the dragon for a while, and then it's his turn to be saved by Abnur Tharn, just as he's about to be nommed. Dat resto heavy attack pulling aggro, tho.
Breton gets saved by Khamira, then she gets saved, just as she's about to be eaten, by Sai and his dudes.
She was only lucky enough to climb the dragon because Abnur Tharn CC'd it like a boss and the dragon apparently was out of stam to break free.
The dragon also would have been free and clear to get away probably, even with the wing shred (he was maintaining flight, not falling, and I think even still starting to gain altitude), so even if Khamira assisted by stalling it, the giant Dragon Impaled of Doom took the dragon down.

My point is, that her majesty: 1) was not badass in the first trailer; 2) then suddenly became OP in the second, where she got absolutely stupid moment going SHAAAASH on a damn dragon and survived the fall from a enormous height. It's literally GoT S8 quality stuff, where one girl can suddenly can take down a main villian because it's a representation.

Altmer protagonist died in her trailer, even tho it's a dream, attacked by gryphon. Khamira can't die because of story reasons, then let her help instead of giving her a plot armor. But no, others are dudes and no cat, so take this and be happy.

I like Khamira in the game, tho her story was rushed, but this is rediculous.

Jaimeh

Shadowasrial wrote: »

In every cgi trailer the Breton hero always ends up on his ass. Just saying even with his new necro power he still gets the crap beaten out of him. Before he got beaten to a pulp by the Ebon heart hero. It seems zos doesn’t like daggerfall lol

I beg to differ: he may get beaten around, but he has some of the coolest scenes and animations (both in the original trailer, and in this one), so I think ZOS really likes him, but just doesn't want him to be a boring all-powerful being. I can't tell you how excited I was to see him in the new trailer!

Shadowasrial

Jaimeh wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

In every cgi trailer the Breton hero always ends up on his ass. Just saying even with his new necro power he still gets the crap beaten out of him. Before he got beaten to a pulp by the Ebon heart hero. It seems zos doesn’t like daggerfall lol

I beg to differ: he may get beaten around, but he has some of the coolest scenes and animations (both in the original trailer, and in this one), so I think ZOS really likes him, but just doesn't want him to be a boring all-powerful being. I can't tell you how excited I was to see him in the new trailer!

Oh trust me I love the character. He’s the one who originally made me choose nightblade and daggerfall when game first came out. Until I found out best stam nightblade was best as a wood elf or khajit so I switched to Ad he had such badass fighting skills compared to magic users and a hulking nord. His fighting style was just so precise and deadly

FR0STDEE

I just hope that ZOS rerelease the Breton hero costume to look like it does now. Looks badass.

Vaz2013

He's a filthy human.

max_only

Radiance wrote: »

This is an Elsweyr Chapter... About Kats... That was her town, her people so of course she was the first to rush into battle. Not to mention we had to wait this long for a Kahjiit to enter the Cinematic trailers. The Breton had his time to shine in the original trailers and still Kicked A... Butt In every trailer he has been in. You remind me of the PVPers who cry for nerfs every time they get spanked. You can't expect one person to dominate everything all the time. There is literally nothing appealing about a God Mode character. The struggle makes your triumphs worth while. And don't even get me started with the incel Anti-fem BS every time a woman does anything. Is your masculinity really that fragile!?

Posts like this is why we can't have nice things. SHAME!

One thing...
You didn’t have to “wait this long for Khajiit to enter the cinematic trailers”. The Summerset trailer was full of Razum-dar.

dodgehopper_ESO

VaranisArano wrote: »

I'm hoping the Nord hero becomes this universe's Vestige.

presumably he sacrificed Lyris or Varen, not Sai

Hey he's probably Hjalti Early-Beard.

KMarble

Shadowasrial wrote: »

I mean Breton hero has been on the short end of the stick in each trailer while everyone else has kicked some ass and won

He represents the player better than any of the others. He's almost like an afterthought, left behind and ignored, until he's needed.

My main stopped the plane meld, completed Cadwell's silver and gold while doing all of the side quests in all of the areas, destroyed all of the dolmens aside from 2 in Tamriel at least once, did the same to the geisers, saved Vivec and Sotha Sil's lives, fixed things in Worthgard, worked for the thieves' guild, joined the Dark Brotherhood, the fighters and mages guilds, helped the folks in Murkmire and did other stuff that I can't remember.

YET! I still get NPC's looking at me and going "What!", I'm told to go fetch some silly thing or send on a small errands that would normally be done by a stable boy and am treated as disposable by pretty much all of the quest givers. In fact, most of them think I won't be able to do the thing they asked of me. On top of that, many times I hear the populace talking about my deeds, but at best I'm mentioned as someone who helped.

heaven13

KMarble wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

I mean Breton hero has been on the short end of the stick in each trailer while everyone else has kicked some ass and won

He represents the player better than any of the others. He's almost like an afterthought, left behind and ignored, until he's needed.

My main stopped the plane meld, completed Cadwell's silver and gold while doing all of the side quests in all of the areas, destroyed all of the dolmens aside from 2 in Tamriel at least once, did the same to the geisers, saved Vivec and Sotha Sil's lives, fixed things in Worthgard, worked for the thieves' guild, joined the Dark Brotherhood, the fighters and mages guilds, helped the folks in Murkmire and did other stuff that I can't remember.

YET! I still get NPC's looking at me and going "What!", I'm told to go fetch some silly thing or send on a small errands that would normally be done by a stable boy and am treated as disposable by pretty much all of the quest givers. In fact, most of them think I won't be able to do the thing they asked of me. On top of that, many times I hear the populace talking about my deeds, but at best I'm mentioned as someone who helped.

Don't forget though. You stopped Alexandra Conele from capturing the Coral Heart.

max_only

Thrawniel wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I'm quite pissed off they made the black cat the center of this trailer wth... Just adds to the overall dissapointment

It’s the Elsweyr expansion. Talking cat people. Do you think Zeni is looking behind them at all the old players? No they are looking ahead of them to snare the huge internet cat audience. Every step they made before Elsweyr dropped was to make it as appealing as possible to be a talking cat. Any changes they go forward will benefit talking cats. It’s all cats all the time. Not just furries but your regular “oh that’s so cute” internet denizen too. Talking cats bro, it’s the future. They can print money with talking cats.

As someone who mained khajiit since launch day (and in beta too), I tend to disagree with your statement than Zeni does not care for old players. If anything, it is a long overdue after two elf-themed expansions.

I’m happy for you! They can focus on Khajiit without having to take things away from other people. Removing things from other people after 25 years just to make Khajiit “look good” is the sour point. Khajiit don’t need help being appealing. They are already appealing on their own. I’d enjoy this expansion 100% more if Zos didn’t deprive Peter to shine up Paul.

Rain_Greyraven

they mean another stupid gurl power moment, considering that her majesty was useless in the previous part of the trailer and nearly got burned

It's the curse of Bethesda in general..I mean just look at the E-3 presentation of upcoming games, future flop after flop all riddled with virtue signaling of one type or another. A lone exception Ghostwire, which is made by an Asian company that could care less about "progressive values"

it's a weird dichotomy of virtue signaling blended with hyper violence blood and gore..basically sjw's killing those they disagree with in some pretty demented ways.

They are choosing to die on a hill that is increasingly being deserted by more intelligent (aka those that want to actually make money) developers.

Jamdarius

Shadowasrial wrote: »

In every cgi trailer the Breton hero always ends up on his ass. Just saying even with his new necro power he still gets the crap beaten out of him. Before he got beaten to a pulp by the Ebon heart hero. It seems zos doesn’t like daggerfall lol

Nobody likes them... I mean look what they did at Bleakrock...

quadraxis666

Just like the actual daggerfall covenant in game!

Number_51

master_vanargand wrote: »

Breton Hero died and changed class.
So class change costs money to death.

I think he actually class changed before he died. I just re-watched all the trailers in order the other night and there's a scene where, just as the three heroes are starting their first fight with each other, an anchor drops a bunch of daedra on them. The three turn to fight them and at one point the Breton stabs one and a blue flame creeps up his sword. His complexion at the beginning of the fight was normal, afterwards he's all grayish and dead looking.

Shortly after all that he's in a scene where he's just arriving at the Imperial City and it almost looks like he's leading some undead there. At least the first soldier you see looks quite undead. Others have arrows in them etc. They could just be some very beat up Covenant soldiers I guess.

Links above are to times in this "All Cinematics" video, that needs to be updated.

twev

Number_51 wrote: »

master_vanargand wrote: »

Breton Hero died and changed class.
So class change costs money to death.

I think he actually class changed before he died. I just re-watched all the trailers in order the other night and there's a scene where, just as the three heroes are starting their first fight with each other, an anchor drops a bunch of daedra on them. The three turn to fight them and at one point the Breton stabs one and a blue flame creeps up his sword. His complexion at the beginning of the fight was normal, afterwards he's all grayish and dead looking.

Shortly after all that he's in a scene where he's just arriving at the Imperial City and it almost looks like he's leading some undead there. At least the first soldier you see looks quite undead. Others have arrows in them etc. They could just be some very beat up Covenant soldiers I guess.

Links above are to times in this "All Cinematics" video, that needs to be updated.

And he's riding a dead horse, that kills the grass it's standing on.
That was my final clue that his aura had taken a turn.

Number_51

twev wrote: »

Number_51 wrote: »

master_vanargand wrote: »

Breton Hero died and changed class.
So class change costs money to death.

I think he actually class changed before he died. I just re-watched all the trailers in order the other night and there's a scene where, just as the three heroes are starting their first fight with each other, an anchor drops a bunch of daedra on them. The three turn to fight them and at one point the Breton stabs one and a blue flame creeps up his sword. His complexion at the beginning of the fight was normal, afterwards he's all grayish and dead looking.

Shortly after all that he's in a scene where he's just arriving at the Imperial City and it almost looks like he's leading some undead there. At least the first soldier you see looks quite undead. Others have arrows in them etc. They could just be some very beat up Covenant soldiers I guess.

Links above are to times in this "All Cinematics" video, that needs to be updated.

And he's riding a dead horse, that kills the grass it's standing on.
That was my final clue that his aura had taken a turn.

Knew I was forgetting to mention something. You nailed it.

RogueShark

TiaFrye wrote: »

RogueShark wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

TiaFrye wrote: »

Shadowasrial wrote: »

In every cgi trailer the Breton hero always ends up on his ass. Just saying even with his new necro power he still gets the crap beaten out of him. Before he got beaten to a pulp by the Ebon heart hero. It seems zos doesn’t like daggerfall lol

with the amount of returning characters from DC in all DLCs and chapters you would've guessed that a long time ago. and it's sad

ArchMikem wrote: »

luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Yeah I'm quite pissed off they made the black cat the center of this trailer wth... Just adds to the overall dissapointment

lolwut? You mean Queen Khamira, the main protagonist of the Elsweyr story other than the player?

they mean another stupid gurl power moment, considering that her majesty was useless in the previous part of the trailer and nearly got burned

LOL🤣

That’s reaching

I am a woman, mind you, and I am tired of this. So yeah, I'm reaching. It could've been a group effort, it could've been realistic, but they chose to give that moment to the queen and give her a plot armor none the less.

Were we watching the same trailer...? That was a huge team effort! Every single one of them (except maybe Abnur...) would have been TOAST if not for the others.

Khamira shoots the dragon, it hardly bothers it. She charges in, gets knocked flat on her butt off her horse, and then would have been eaten or fried if the Breton hero didn't show up.
Breton hero tanks the dragon for a while, and then it's his turn to be saved by Abnur Tharn, just as he's about to be nommed. Dat resto heavy attack pulling aggro, tho.
Breton gets saved by Khamira, then she gets saved, just as she's about to be eaten, by Sai and his dudes.
She was only lucky enough to climb the dragon because Abnur Tharn CC'd it like a boss and the dragon apparently was out of stam to break free.
The dragon also would have been free and clear to get away probably, even with the wing shred (he was maintaining flight, not falling, and I think even still starting to gain altitude), so even if Khamira assisted by stalling it, the giant Dragon Impaled of Doom took the dragon down.

My point is, that her majesty: 1) was not badass in the first trailer; 2) then suddenly became OP in the second, where she got absolutely stupid moment going SHAAAASH on a damn dragon and survived the fall from a enormous height. It's literally GoT S8 quality stuff, where one girl can suddenly can take down a main villian because it's a representation.

Altmer protagonist died in her trailer, even tho it's a dream, attacked by gryphon. Khamira can't die because of story reasons, then let her help instead of giving her a plot armor. But no, others are dudes and no cat, so take this and be happy.

I like Khamira in the game, tho her story was rushed, but this is rediculous.

I think the only OP thing I can agree on her doing is falling from such a height and being basically fine. I'm dead AF when I stumble off a semi-steep incline in game. >.<
That being said... I feel like if she'd been 'super badass' in the first trailer, then you'd just be upset about that, rather than continuity. I don't feel like she was immensely badass over Abnur or the Breton Hero in this. Breton Hero certainly got the short end of the stick, but he saved Khamira, no doubt about it. I'd say Sai Sahan was the real 'upstager' here, bringing down the dragon with a single shot with mild assistance. But everyone worked incredibly well together in the cinematic.

Again, opinions are opinions, so I'll respect your disagreeing. But it's a huge stretch to say Khamira single-handedly beat down a dragon. She was not one girl taking down a main villain.

barney2525

Shadowasrial wrote: »

I mean Breton hero has been on the short end of the stick in each trailer while everyone else has kicked some ass and won

every group needs comic relief

Wildberryjack

I dunno, he hit the dragon in the face, twice. I mean that's not bad. It was a group effort to bring the dragon down, you didn't expect him to solo it did you?